Fuck trucks. I remember the Ranger it was barely bigger than a minivan. These things are obscene. People who own them don’t need them. Most people don’t even need trucks. People like to cosplay that they live up a 25 degree incline of muddy, rocky road. But a subaru would be just fine and IS in most of the world.
I drive a B2300 (the Mazda rebrand of the Ranger) and it kicks ass. I get 7-8L per 100km, when commuting, I’ve filled it to the tits with dirt, flooring and lumber, and it doesn’t take up 2 parking spaces. I would pay an obscene amount to get the same truck but as an EV today. Why the fuck is that not a thing?!?
Best we can do is a behemoth truck that doesn’t fit in spots and costs a first born child.
This is actually a good point, why are there no small EV trucks?
I bet they exist in China.
I see lots of Rivians where I live. I’m not about to spend $130k on a small truck though.
Ford Maverick is the size of the old school rangers. I have a hybrid one and love it. Only problem is finding one not marked up sky high.
Ever heard of a Ford Maverick? It’s not a “real” truck since it’s unibody instead of body-on-frame, but otherwise it’s the next best thing to the old Ranger.
Transverse engine + transaxle + biased toward FWD
Like I said, it’s (unfortunately) not a real truck.
Yeah. At that point, get a wagon and a trailer. That’s my current setup but I am pushing the limits of it. 3 people + luggage + trailer + 2x 500lb bikes is really more than that flat 4 and CVT wants. I’m already having to do suspension mods to make it more comfortable and I’m still (officially) 700lbs under the tow rating.
The b23 was a great truck, though.
I recently bought a 2010 B4000 and it is a great size for a truck.
I remember the Ranger it was barely bigger than a minivan.
I own a Ranger and used to own a Ford Aerostar. I’m pretty sure they were literally built on the same platform. Also, my Ranger is a regular cab short bed, while my Aerostar was the long wheelbase version, so the van was definitely bigger.
My dad used to have an Aerostar, loved that goofy looking little minivan. Ended up getting a Plymouth Voyager that looked very similar.
The nerdiest part of me wanted to modify mine to look like a shuttlecraft from Star Trek. I never went through with it, though.
I used to have a ~'99 ranger. Loved that thing. Now the closest thing Ford has is the maverick which is not only bigger overall but it has a smaller bed so it’s less useful.
'10 B2300 driver. Why will no one make a real compact pickup instead of a movie theater with a 4 foot box?!?
I do appreciate Ford has the Maverick now as well.
I probably don’t represent most people very well. But my wife and I have a single vehicle, a gmc sierra 1500. We probably use the bed twice a week. Trash/recycling. Moving heavy things around our property. Makes for a great mobile workbench for projects outside. And most often of all, we buy hay and grain for horses. A smaller truck would be a problem for us. We would actually benefit from a larger truck! But I don’t want a bigger gas guzzler. We get great fuel efficiency given the size of the truck.
Edit: I also don’t live in a city. It’s quite rural here
That, seems like a proper use.
I see many trucks with huge mud tires that they use as a main vehicle to commute to and from work and to run errands. I think these are the target for most people.
Obviously not (yet?) available in the US but other countries have much smaller trucks with larger beds. https://www.kia.com/dm/showroom/K2700-2022/specification.html
That plus a 2200 lb hauling capacity make them a very capable, efficient, and reasonably safe truck.
Kinda funny how much the styles differ between USA and Europe 🙂. Looks like a great work truck. No space for a car seat in the back though so you would need a separate family vehicle. Which might be practical anyway!
This would satisfy my regular truck needs. But a 2200lb hauling capacity doesn’t work well with horses. A single horse can easily weighs 1200 pounds.
I could see this being great for many people here. But it’s also not a universal fit.
I saw a similar truck in the US the other day, a Honda Street/Acty. It was so cute!
Do you run a farm? Meaning is your truck use for your business or job?
I consider it a hobby farm. We currently have 2 horses and 3 goats. But it’s not a business at all and doesn’t generate income.
I would love an old Ranger with the extended cab and suicide doors…I hate the new ones are f150 sized. Also the Tacoma structurally is no larger than the original tiny version…it’s all puffy body panels. Why can’t we ha have small trucks?
$$$
Pretty arrogant to claim people that own them don’t need them. I know welders that do on site welding and have heavy welding equipment mounted in the back.
You also wouldn’t want to have a civic flying down a steep hill behind you towing a 6,000lb travel trailer.
Edit:
Today I learned a bunch of people like to drive slow behind a rolling death trap that is a civic with a 6K lb trailer. Cool.
I think we’re not talking company trucks (which should park in a depot anyway).
It’s about personal garage-queen road-manatees. Because of course it is.
Just abolish and amnesty the Dodge ram. Given the inordinate DUI numbers, roads would just be safer.
Yes this is different. But still, how do you go RVing. You can’t, legally, without something that has the braking and towing capacities.
Glamping.
Or maybe just give up the “I want to travel and I want to take a single-wide with me” dementation.
Not everyone needs to like or dislike the things you like and dislike.
Sure as soon as housing becomes affordable. I hate having a large truck but it is the right tool for the right job and we live full time in an RV.
I towed an a-frame tent trailer around the South Western US and Western Canada for like 2 months straight with a 2.5L Subaru Outback. People used to go camping with just a fucking station wagon. Could it tow a giant 25 footer trailer? No, would I want one? No, what’s the point of literally towing a full sized house to “Get away”.
9 out of 10 non-company pickups on the road are hauling huge dicks with tiny penises.
My first car was a '92 Ranger and it was a great little thing to have at that point in my life. It’s really nice to be able to move without needing to worry about how to transport all your stuff to the new place and it was small enough that it still felt like a regular sized car.
The new rangers are pretty ridiculous in comparison.
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Rent a truck the few times a year you actually need it instead of having it for your ego.
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You use a truck every day for your business and you think this discussion is about you?
I use a truck for trucking and I get down votes for expressing an opposing view. This is how ecko chambers exist…
You get downvotes for demonstrating that you do not understand the view you are opposed to. The contention is that given the recent explosion of popularity of pickup trucks, the majority of truck owners do not use their vehicles for purposes beyond normal commuting and thus have no need for the excess danger, emissions, and annoyance of pickup trucks. So by chiming in with “I own a truck and actually do use it for truck things”, you contribute nothing to the discussion
king bed
OH OH OH! I’ve been waiting for this moment! In 2018 I successfully fit a king size matress in a Subaru Outback 2.5l. It just fit, and I had to push my seat up quite a bit but it worked.
You can fit more lumber in a minivan than a Ram with the sausage party cab.
Interesting it’s just trucks that are the problem, and not SUVs as well. Just as large, hell some weigh more.
The spa-burban is a truck.
Is it a 6000lb monster on a truck frame and enjoying the worse/looser safety regs? Then Truck.
I’m clearly not just talking about Burbs. https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1720016/ranked-every-unibody-non-luxury-three-row-crossover/
Most are on a literal “truck” frame. Silverado/suburban for example.
That ignores big unibody SUVs. Most that I’m speaking to are not on truck frames. For example https://www.autoweek.com/news/a1720016/ranked-every-unibody-non-luxury-three-row-crossover/
They are part of the problem too.
They’re also literally a truck with a roof over the bed.
In the US, SUVs are considered “Light trucks” and the same regulations apply to them.
What is the point of a truck you cannot fit a 2x4 in the back?
Satiates societally ingrained Petro-Masculinity for patriarchal men who are insecure about their status as a man in the modern age.
Could have easily said “little dick syndrome”
Nahh that’s misandrist and body shaming. This definition is better.
With how PC younger generations are I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not lol
I am not a younger generation and am not being sarcastic. Body shaming men is just generally accepted but it’s not okay to do that to anyone. There are plenty of other equally rude and more accurate ways to say someone is an insecure asshole. We should use them.
We are so different. Best of luck on your adventures.
Petro-masculinity is a brilliant term.
As a truck owner, I also do not need a big truck. I loved my B4000, However there are no small options now, and I can’t afford multiple vehicles. You want solid furniture delivered 150km on a bike? Make the space, but charge for access.
If I were to pay someone to move furniture. I’d get someone with a van.
If I were move furniture myself, I’d rent a van.
The reason smaller long bed trucks don’t get bought is because you might as well get a van. A roof is generally a good thing.
Modern trucks are nothing more than a bodge to get around safety regulations for ordinary cars.
