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Too ludicrous even for a Bond film. Even a Roger Moore Bond film.
God that is so true. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so true.
Even an Austin Powers movie?
He might fit as an Austin Powers villain, especially if he had a bag of Cheetos in every scene.
Yuge bag. The biggest. No one has a bigger bag than me. Not even Chester. Great guy, Chester. Not as great as me but, who is?
It’s not gonna make his hands look any bigger though.
I heard the Bond movies got more serious after the Austin Powers movies came out.
One tends to stop doing tropes that people are actively complaining about…
Unless it’s “The Magic Goes Away Forever”
Hate that trope but they keep spamming it
Not even for a Paw Patrol movie.
Lex Luther would call him a cliche.
Let’s be honest, even Lloyd Kaufman would’ve dismissed that as too on the nose for even him to direct that movie…
Biff?
True story. After the 2016 election, there was a panel discussion. They had all the creators of the top US political TV dramas; The West Wing: Scandal: Veep: House of Cards and others. Every writer and producer said the same thing. If they’d had a character who said that they ‘liked soldiers who didn’t get captured’ the advertisers and network bosses would have demanded that the character be hated by all Americans.
South Park And SNL both commented that our 2016 situation was too ridiculous to parody
Back in the 1960s, it was a common joke that ronald reagan would never be President because no one would vote for a guy who co-starred with a monkey.
Today’s GOP would ignore reagan and run the monkey
Heck dude at this point I’d run to vote for the monkey!
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By that logic, every single drama since the dawn of time is ‘propaganda.’
Propaganda implies that the message being pushed is for the sake of convincing the population of some doctrine. The network is trying to cater to an already held public belief for the sake of dollars.
Some is just entertainment, but yeah, most is trying to sell a message
Dyslexic ass universe we live in . The 2020’s were supposed to be ‘the future’, an advanced post-scarcity world. We got a post-satire world instead
This is what we get for over indulging on irony starting in the 90s.
Nothing has meaning anymore.
But maybe correlation isn’t causation…
I’ve become more and more aware of “Irony poisoning” in every facet of our culture, from movies to memes to every other human interaction.
Maybe because of social media influence, we’re so scared that holding any kind of sincerity will reveal a vulnerability that will be ruthlessly attacked…
We must be ready to say “No I don’t mean that seriously” and change our projection within a moment’s notice when the culture winds change again.
It’s so bad anymore that people now need to add “un-ironically” to explain that they genuinely feel anything at all…
… and sometimes that’s said ironically.
we’re so scared that holding any kind of sincerity will reveal a vulnerability that will be ruthlessly attacked…
Ian Bogost defines this sort of thing as ironoia in his book Play Anything. Holding the world at a distance through ironic engagement.
What you are pointing out is slightly different, but very much along the same lines.
I found the book helpful to illuminate how ironic culture was a bad force when growing up and going through vulnerable stages.
Yeah I’m trying to learn to be sincere and it’s hard. When all your culture has emphasized for your entire life is irony and exaggeration it’s hard to judge scale and to be sincere. But it’s important, how can we dealienate without being able to sincerely express ourselves
Thanks so much for the book share! I’m really interested in reading this! (I love studying games. Hope to make them someday!)
Especially if it highlights this particular issue, I’m really interested in reading what he’s got to say on the matter.
If you look at 70s SF you get closer to the real 2020s.
AI taking over the world: Colossus: The Forbin Project
An Infectious agent causing problems: The Andromeda Strain
Human pollution causing massive issues: Soylent Green
Oh shit Forbin mentioned in the wild
in science fiction the AI that takes over the world is sapient. usually as intelligent as a person if not more. reality is dumber. we’re just trying to surrender the world to a series of algorithms that can’t tell how many fingers there are in a hand or which way they bend, or what a fucking fire hydrant looks like.
That is in movies and books.
In the real world the turning test is not proof that an artificial system is sentient but only if/when a human thinks it is. It is not about the intelligence/sentience of the system but the intelligence of the human observing that means the test is passed.
Sadly, for large parts of humanity, text based LLMs have already passed the turning test…
We don’t even have AI it’s a damn chinese room
Have we forgotten about Trump, the Koch brothers, hmm who else.
The current movie appears to be a bond idiocracy crossover.
Idiocracy is not an accurate depiction of what we have going on, and I’m tired of people saying that it is. Idiocracy was about a dumbing down of everyone because smart people did not breed.
However, people still had the best of intentions despite their limited brain capacity. They just didn’t know how to actually fix the world.
And real life we have people actively denying climate change despite the obvious effects not out of idiocy, but because they are literally being paid to, and because it makes a decent wedge issue for political gain. There is an obvious motive there that can be explained by malice instead of stupidity, especially since the people trying to get this money in power are likely to die before the effects of climate change come into full circle.
An idiocracy, they actively want to fix the climate problems, they are just literally too stupid to use water instead of Gatorade for plants. Because everyone is taking a slogan more literally than actual evidence.
Another great comparison is Donald Trump and Camacho. Donald Trump ignored the existence of covid-19, downplayed the effects of it, and blamed the parts of it that could not be ignored on his predecessor. He also villainized Anthony fauci, the man who was trying to make covid-19 only last a couple of weeks, but because he was villanized so hard it became a global pandemic that lasted over a year.
Camacho was fully aware there was a problem, acknowledge the people who were suffering and the Direct effects of the problem, and put the smartest man in the world in charge of fixing the problem.
It is not an app comparison, because Society is not the way it is because it is stupid, but because it is actively being manipulated by malefactors and bad faith agents.
The planet is not being mismanaged nor is it dying because it’s just time. It is being murdered for personal gain by people with names and addresses.
However, people still had the best of intentions despite their limited brain capacity. They just didn’t know how to actually fix the world.
And real life we have people actively denying climate change despite the obvious effects not out of idiocy, but because they are literally being paid to, and because it makes a decent wedge issue for political gain.
I mean I guess the paid shills are part of it, but there is also a large group of useful but ultimately well-meaning idiots repeating their propaganda. And even disregarding that nobody really knows how to fix climate change once you start adding stipulations like not crashing the bejesus out of the holy economy, so not that far off I would say.
An idiocracy, they actively want to fix the climate problems, they are just literally too stupid to use water instead of Gatorade for plants. Because everyone is taking a slogan more literally than actual evidence.
We want to fix climate change too, but we are Not Sure about how to handle the Brawndo stock crashing and how long it takes the nitrate levels in the soil to normalise once we switch back to water. See CO² emissions still not decreasing but rather increasing for decades now despite everybody knowing it’s the major cause of global warming, never mind that we would have to pull CO² back out of the atmosphere to stop the damage it will cause in the future from happening.
Camacho was fully aware there was a problem, acknowledge the people who were suffering and the Direct effects of the problem, and put the smartest man in the world in charge of fixing the problem.
My man Camacho also nearly killed Not Sure in a monster truck arena because of the unforeseen stock crash resulting in like half the population being unemployed and the soil nitrate level delay hiding that the solution worked, the latter being revealed Just In Time™ for dramatic effect.
It is not an app comparison, because Society is not the way it is because it is stupid, but because it is actively being manipulated by malefactors and bad faith agents.
Meh, it’s both stupidity and malice IMHO. When in doubt refer to Hanlon’s Razor:
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
Sometimes nobody having THE solution to a problem is a bitter part of reality that we have to face, and I fear the issue of climate change in particular is one of those problems. Existing malice notwithstanding.
Can we start talking about those who told the truth more than those who lie? Here’s a short starting list:
Gary Webb
Milton William Cooper
Bill Hicks
Julian Assange
Edward Snowden
Anyone else?
Gary Webb killed himself, Milton Cooper was a quack, and Julian Assange is a far-right wing tool.
If he had released everything he had rather than just what he had on his enemies I would respect him a bit more.
Julian Assange was cool up until he was a fascist pedophile. He knew all about russia, but instead chose to double down on some damn emails.
Did his wife leave him after watching spend too much time with Epstein or was that Bill Gates?
Dunno
Apparently not.
Random aside, considering the fact that it is very obvious that we do not live in reality, but in fact a dystopian novel that was written in the prime timeline, and by a total hack at that. Do you think in the real world they have colonized the moon? Do you think someone won the million dollars from proving psychic powers? Do you think Al Capone’s vault actually had something in it? Because if this is the time one where everything went wrong, what is the timeline where everything went right like?
Gary Webb killed himself,
So did Hunter S. Thompson. Van Gogh too.
Good point. I totally forgot about them.
Yeah, You mean all that cocaine he had?
Snowden was also a right wing tool. Which is why he suddenly developed a conscience when the wrong guy got elected.
There’s a jewish fascist
Netanyahu, Shapiro, prager, or someone else?
Yes!
to be fair, what do you expect from a guy who is part of the liberal NATIONALISTS
Wonder who the liberation concerns with that oxymoron
My gen x friends complained about the villains in Captain Planet, but the we got Trump.
Also, Tomorrow Never Dies was loosely based on Rupert Murdoch.
Rich Biff in Back to the Future 2 was supposedly based on Trump.
And alternate-1985 Lorraine was based on Ginger Lynn Allen?
My dad complained that Captain Planet was “libtard environmentalist propaganda” 30 years ago. Some things never change. Now it’s just Trump instead of Limbaugh.
These aren’t even people who publicity identify as conservative. Publicly…
They basically just stood still long enough and became conservatives that watch Daily Show.
Ope, yeah that’s a fate I dread and actively work to avoid.
Britain is not holding up its end here, producing the mega-shagger we need to save us all.
Groovy baby.
Well they tried with Boris Johnson, but he just couldn’t quite make the cut.
He was more like that Bond parody with Rowan Atkinson. Bumbling and fumbling while bragging and shagging.
Johnny English
Hopefully not Richard Branson.
Bezos also seems pretty villain-y.
Yes, but instead of a Bond villain he’s more of an Austin Powers villain
“Tear down that bridge so my yacht can pass”
More like Lex Luthor
Bezos wins in the looks department, but all billionaires are various degrees of Lex Luthor. My pick is Elon Musk because he’s more overtly evil and he kind of has the mad scientist backstory.
I wouldn’t put Musk and scientist in the same sentence.
https://electrek.co/2023/08/23/elon-musk-lego-cybertruck-quality-leaked-tesla-email/
If he knew anything about science then he’d know about termal expansion…
I wasn’t trying to accuse him of being an actual scientist or engineer. But he paid good money for the backstory!
Hey, there’s also a New York businessman obsessed with gold and status who has political influence and ties to the ex KGB agent with goals of overturning democracy
Is he though? More like an incompetent businessman aligns himself with evil baddie to stave off company bankruptcy. In exchange he pawns off state secrets and tries to destabilize the world’s largest economy. Eventually incompetent business man either meets his end shanked in a jail shower or evil baddie will conveniently dispose of him out a 10 storey window once he is no longer worth the trouble.
You see him dancing along with Mr Tesla on a Tesla cruise ship
We still have Murdoch media empire. The secretive media mogul pulling the strings from the shadows at the behest of the rich and powerful
Especially the part where, he has a bunch of followers who claimed the emerald mine never existed and that it’s all a hoax by his detractors. Even though the main man himself has admitted that his fortune came from a God damn Emerald mine.
Let me FTFY:
Penchant for poisoning, and having comrades mysteriously fall from very high places
Let me FTFY:
mysteriously fall from
very high placesopen windows
The real fiction is that government agencies would be trying to rein them in. If Musk came up with a ray that turned people into eldrich-style horrors, those agencies would be lined up as buyers.
Austin Powers at least got phallic shaped rockets right though
Putin and Musk or From Russia With Love and Moonraker?
Look I get it’s a joke but calling Elon and Putin “our two main antagonists” is mind numbingly stupid and doesn’t seem to be the punchline.
The only group who I can think of that would be true for would be college freshman from upper middle class backgrounds that get their news exclusively from social media and do not have any attention span as a result of the Adderall shortage.
Putin has started the largest land war in Europe since WW2. Elon does shit that wouldn’t even put him in the top 5 of evil billionaires. He’s just super active on social media so anyone who puts in the slightest amount of effort can see what he’s up to.
Elon is a bit worse than that: he also pollutes our night sky with thousands of satellites for a service that is a capitalist initial landgrab of space (he does it quickly too so he can skip regulation), and then based on a whim and his ill informed political views use said satellite service to meddle in global politics because again, no regulation. So of course still nowhere near the ex kgb agent, but yeah, a pretty big dick too.
He also spent a bucket load darkening those satellites (with moderate success) when astronomers complained
Also he’s not the only one wanting a massive satellite data constellation, and he is the only one working hard on making space access cheaper
Elon is not just super active in social media. He destroyed Twitter for fun. I didn’t use Twitter before, but for someone that used Twitter (which is most young people) I see how he can seem a villain. Sure, not at the scale of Putin, but way more than “super active”.
For fun? He did it because he thought he could do better. Turns out he couldn’t though
who is the former KGB agent?
He’s the guy currently trying to take over a sovereign European nation.
I don’t know if you are joking and I am whooshing it but: Putin. He was former… i believe even chief of the KGB. Was stationed in East Germany for a while and made quite the career. And now he instigated himself as a Russian Erdogan who can rule for as long as he wishes.
More like as long as his citizens don’t develop a taste for guillotines
Russians always were more of the “lets kill the ruling class in a bloody battle of the working class and absolute brutality for the sins their families have committed against us” kind. (Source: The murder of the Romanov family )
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Bruv… she was in politics. Not the Stasi. And even if she was everyone was a spy on everyone in the east. The woman got a damn doctor in physics. What could she do for the Stasi? And besides. No proof.
