The fascist media is pushing the martyr narrative HARD.
I have to use all my strength not to scream at brainwashed family members at how horrid this person was. Mentioning the school shooting that happened on the same day or the MURDER of 2 Minnesotam democrats (and their spouses) usually shuts them up though. I just hate seeing everyone i know getting sucked into this shit. They weren’t a good person, they were not improving the world, they were dividing us. I will feel zero empathy for them. As they would have wanted
Did a surgeon call it a “miracle” the bullet stopped in Kirk’s body, somehow making him Bullet Jesus?
Yes, Charlie had superman-like bullet stopping strength. Sadly for him, the bullet stopping layer was just behind his carotid artery.
Turns out the bullet stopping power was the friends we made along the way
That’s why it’s important to always make sure you’re at the centre of the group. An attack can come from any angle.
Candace Owens is already hard at work proving it’s all a lie anyway.
I’m in the same boat. Nothing is worse than losing loved ones and an entire country to this cult. I wish that we could come together and take down the Cults and propaganda in the same way that we took action against Disney+.
Yeah it really sucks.
Unfortunately there is no way I can un brainwash them. The Russian bots on Facebook and fox news have them completely convinced Trans people are coming for their guns and turning all their kids gay. And dump is their savior.
They really don’t care about the whole trans conspiracy. They just like the fact that they don’t have to hide their hatred anymore. Our loved ones truly are victims of the cult. But they will have to want to leave the cult to get out of it and there’s really not anything that we can do. This is why we should really unite together and force legislation to protect cult victims, children of cult victims, and anyone that the cult targets. Include the use of technology to promote cult activity in the legislation. If adults willingly seek out the cult, then allow them to do as they wish. However, if children are born to cult members, then the children should be removed from the home for their protection. I bet if we could get legislation passed then we could actually have a fighting chance for our loved ones.
Don’t call it a school shooting. School shootings are sad.
It’s insane…. Dude was a podcaster. Yea it was sad like it is when anyone dies. Dude didn’t hold any offices or anything. We could talk about what he could have become all day, but all he was, was a podcaster that was passionate about his message. The amount of attention he is getting is ridiculous… as if he was a past president.
He also paid for buses of people to go to the January insurrection too. Don’t sell his accomplishments short.
and called for Biden’s execution
Yeah but to a lot of people “those are just words”. So I always bring up a key action of his too.
And he did not go there himself? What a shocker. Just another manipulator playing the Sheep.
Because it has nothing to do with him and everything to do with any excuse to accelerate fascism.
Shitposting podcaster, hate monger, using falsities to acheive social ills.
Plenty of people podcast without doing any of that, to say he was a podcaster kind of ignores the fact that he was a Nazi youth organizer.
I hate hearing this. He was not just ‘a podcaster’ or just ‘a guy who gave his opinons’ he was one of the biggest political organizers of one of the most disgusting american political movements. His entire life was dedicated to radicalizing youths to vote for trump.
he was, was a podcaster that was passionate about his message
And his message was awful, and he was exploiting college kids to create controversial content for his social media business.
Yea it was sad
Fuck off.
I’m an atheist so I do think it’s unfortunate when people die because I believe we only get one shot at life. We don’t go to cloud city and do jello shots with Jesus.
That said, Kirk getting shot is clearly a case of fuck around/find out.
If you cuddle with a rabid badger, don’t be surprised if it bites you.
Fuck off because you don’t think it was sad? Or you think it was more than sad?
Yet another example of how hollow and hypocritical all that right wing “somebody think of the children!” rhetoric really is. If he was a child, this likely wouldn’t have even made national news
Evidence: the school shooting that happened on the same day
Which I didn’t hear about!
Weren’t there two?
School shootings are just something you’re going to have to live with in a country with a gun culture. I think I heard that somewhere.
That’s what MAGA tells me. Thoughts and prayers are the answer.
What if his neck just does that sometimes
If it’s a legitimate shooting, the body has ways of rejecting the bullet. He clearly wanted this. That’s why he was acting so provocatively.
He was a paid actor!
not convinced he wasnt a forced martyr. there was another angle behind him where a flash was seen, and then a projectile was recorded mid flight behind him. also a 30-06 would have blown his neck clean apart. he would be looking like he was nearly headless nick if he was lucky. but suddenly “its a miracle there was no exit wound” from 30-06…at about 150 to 200 yards? even if the recorded muzzle flash behind him, and the projectile caught mid flight behind him was doctored. theres no way a 30-06 would just “stop” in his neck with a small hole like that. physics would simply not allow it.
what they describe happening, and what we saw. would make sense for a 22lr or maaaaaaybe a 9mm. but thats also pushing it.
nah man. either they are lying abour the caliber and gun, the shooter, or the whole fucking thing.
also, trumps “attempted assassination” was staged as fuck. someone had to die to make it look real. the cavitation that would happened to his ear would have shattered all the cartilage in it, his ear would have been absolutely mangled. but it was magically healed withour a scar a few weeks later.
this whole admin is based on lies, never trust the story they present.
I would argue that a 150 grain 30-06 could do something like this. That’s a pretty popular deer hunting round, and I don’t know that it would go through a vertebrae. Certainly wouldn’t almost decapitate him. 220 grain would probably exit I think, but again it wouldn’t almost decapitate him. There really isn’t enough in the neck to go flying everywhere.
That’s just me guessing from decades of hunting deer, elk, and bear with a 30-06. I don’t do neck shots though.
heres a 30-06 hitting a ballistic gel head with skull inside it.
blows the thing completely apart.
if it hit him in the neck, it would have blown a massive chunk out. at minimum.
Nah, those ballistic gels aren’t a good analog for that kind of experiment. They blow apart too easy.
It was a school shooting in that it was a shooting that occurred at a place of education AND it was an assassination in that it meets the definition of assassination
Edit: For those downvoting me, please explain (in non emotive language) why you disagree.
Tis a joke
I’m not downboating you myself, but - on one hand you’re not technically wrong - the collection of facts about that day supports both statements
The point being made by the original poster is that this event isn’t something shocking and unique, it’s something that was statistically bound to happen.
Fox and their conservative sphere have been mastering the art of ‘spin’ for decades. That is, they’ve found that you can take a collection of facts and make any number of stories, just by changing which details are empathized. Indeed, they’ve made this about the attack, and have used it to advance their agenda. Your statement is a ‘both sides’ thing and that too plays into their hand - that’s why you’re being downvoted. This post is about changing the narrative, not just adding details to conservative spin.
This could not have been explained better. I hope that lemmy doesn’t turn into another troll infestation.
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Classic republicans. Only pissed off and do something when it affects them or is a threat to them.
I don’t think they’d care that much if the victims were peasant class republicans. Not unless they could pin it up on some minority, of course.
Truthfully, I don’t think they care about CK. They only care what the narrative can do for their agenda.
Stop calling it an assassination. It was just another school shooting.
How are you defining “assassination” and “school shooting”?
Shooting is shooting. Gun go bang. People die.
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If only one man dies of hunger, that is a tragedy. If millions die, that’s only statistics. — Leonard Lyons’ Stalin
If you shoot one person you are a murderer. If you kill a couple persons you are a gangster. If you are a crazy statesman and send millions to their deaths you are a hero. — Watertown Daily Times
If schools shootings happen because of gun culture, it a necessary evil that only the radical left would want to oppose. If a political pundit who defended that argument is shot due to the same gun culture, it was the radical left that must have been involved in some way or just took advantage of the shooting by using it to continue to criticize gun culture. — MAGA, probably.
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Your SO RUDE and need to be CANCELED FOR THIS!
-Anti Cancel Culture People who Defended the Sandy Hook Shooter because 2A!
He was promoted to “Good Nazi” status.
I don’t see what a man who had a malfunctioning neck fountain has to do with shootings and assassinations.
