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Who in the world said servers are authorized to demand such a thing?
She apparently was a self-appointed bathroom gender-inspector. Transphobes feeling bold these days.
They’ve got the iron fist of a dictatorship behind them.
They need an iron fist in the face.
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They’ve got the tiny fist of a wanna-be dictator behind them.
We’re not there yet. Not quite…
They don’t have anything to fear in amerikkka
Transphobes feeling bold these days.
Are there any repricussions to them behaving this way?
We don’t even know if the server is a transphobe, maybe it was just an excuse for them to demand to see a child’s genitals.
Yeah, the pedophiles are pretty empowered right now. It’s absolutely insane what’s going on.
republican nazis and democrat asskissers and pushover cosplaying liberals let all this happen.
Still pretending like you leftists didn’t directly help lead the country to a shit hole by your Jill Stein votes or your non-votes?
Leftists? How’s Gaza looking? Your inaction is why they will be starved to death.
But whatever helps you sleep at night.
You know who’s to blame for Trump? Trump voters.
What we’re seeing here is multiple layers of cowardice. Too cowardly to vote for what you actually believe in, and then too cowardly to go engage with actual Trump voters, so instead you hang around here trying to bully progressives into toeing the party line of a party that doesn’t represent them.
Incidentally,
But whatever helps you sleep at night.
I’ve started noticing a pattern with these “don’t blame me, I voted for Kodos” posts, where they almost always finish with a stock guilt-trip phrase like this, or “I hope you’re happy” or similar, and not just on Lemmy. And I don’t mean every now and then, I mean like, I see these posts formatted the same way regularly, often in threads that are barely relevant to it. Basically, I’m pretty sure that there’s a bot farm posting these messages on behalf of someone trying to maintain the two-party system.
No people are just pissed at third party frauds who helped bury the country. But go ahead with your fake purity
Maybe people should be mad at the politicans who gave up fighting for their voters, and handed the victory to Trump
Maybe more than one fact can exist. Thanks for trump though
But go ahead with your fake purity
See? They’re virtually identical the way they all end with the same collection of snide jabs, even when it’s (ostensibly) a different poster. They do it again later this thread. It’s so stark once you notice it, because you don’t see this pattern with any other political topic.
Yes I’m a bot for speaking the truth and your brainless society murder is original thought. And soooo morally pure
PSML. STILL following the same pattern three (actually four) times in a row, in a discussion about how all these two-party advocates keep ending all their posts with the exact same set of short one-liner jabs.
You couldn’t have given yourself away more if you’d written a poem about presidents visiting the beach.
Damn, even when you control all elections with gerrymandering and anti-third-party laws, you still blame third parties.
Meanwhile, here in the USA elections and law say it’s all due to our major parties. I guess you just can’t face reality, that’s sad.
Exactly. At this point, anyone still bitching about anti-genocide voters in the 2024 election should be assumed to be a conservative or Russian bot.
I’m not sure it necessarily stands to reason that they’d be a conservative or Russian specifically, unless they ran the numbers and concluded that all this “I hope you’re happy with what you did, you Nazi” vitriol would turn people away from the Democratic Party far more than it would whip them into line.
https://www.npr.org/2025/06/26/nx-s1-5447450/trump-2024-election-non-voters-coalition
Maybe check your facts and stop spreading disinformation to cover for the abject failures of the DNC leadership and their chosen candidates. It’s not like we didn’t have two presidential elections prior to 2024 where the Dems lost or nearly lost to learn from yet they decided to lean into these failed strategies even harder in 2024 with very predictable results. It’s almost as if they wanted Trump to win.
I mean, “neatly lost” here is a disingenuous phrase for “won”. The 2020 election wasn’t even particularly close either, in terms of the Electoral College, which is unfortunately the only part that really.
I agree with you otherwise, so sorry for the pedantry. Dems should have definitely learned from the midterms, and they should have learned Biden was too old for a second term even before he announced he’d run again.
I’d say I hope they learn from 2024 but I doubt it.
what is it about losing that makes you so upset? if harris wanted to win she’d have stopped SUPPORTING A GENOCIDE.
I did not vote for anyone who supported genocide.
Why the fuck are you ok with it? there is no such thing as a thrown away vote, only recalcitrance from people who won’t admit they’re ok voting for someone who fucking supports genocide. Go fuck yourself.
Lol. You didn’t vote period. So you don’t deserve a say in anything going forward.
Once again, tankie. How’s Gaza looking? Because of people like you, I’d say pretty fucked. Especially since you are still using the Biden genocide excuse to not take responsibility for Trump’s ACTUAL genocide.
But whatever helps you cope.
? I voted but not for harris and not for trump. I don’t vote for genocide. try again.
So then you don’t know how voting works in America? It’s easily learned.
It seems to me that they do know how voting works in America: If you keep voting for pro-genocide candidates, you keep getting genocide. Maybe one of the two major parties should try running an anti-genocide candidate.
seems like you don’t. i vote for the candidate that fits who I wish to win. marketing and propaganda have you thinking a 3rd party is a thrown away vote. Want to fix that? vote for someone who doesn’t support genocide.
Yes! Third party votes pressure D and R to change their platform and get those votes.
Even if you don’t think so, it still happens. For example, Socialists have been fighting for a minimum wage since 1910 (and still fight for higher wages today). They are the only reason for Democrats adopting a pro-labor position in the 30s. I could go on, but it’s all brand new to you, you’d lose your mind. Baby steps.
I find it very telling that you blame the person who couldn’t stomach to vote for genocide, instead of blaming your polticians for being pro-genocide.
thank you. well said.
Nazi supporter.
Right. We had 15 months of weaponizing and covering for Israel’s ethnic cleansing during Biden’s term, but its the guy who criticizes him and his replacement that’s the “Nazi supporter.” Your comments are indistinguishable from a MAGA sycophant and you can’t even see it.
One of the lessons of the crimes of the Nazis is that the road to Hell is paved with The Greater Good. The Nazis themselves believed that all their crimes were necessary for the betterment of society. They thought though their actions were regrettable, it was the only choice they really had. Killing millions was the lesser of two evils.
You have more in common with the Nazis than you would like to believe. There’s very little you cannot justify when you have no red lines and you’ll always support the lesser evil. The Nazis themselves thought they were supporting the lesser evil.
who? folks who voted for trump or harris? yeah they are.
Lol everyone but you and a few thousand people are nazis
Edit: third party morons can downvote this all they want. Voting against a semblance of sanity is what they’re good at
It’s always amazing to me how people will blame those that couldn’t stomach voting for a pro-genocide candidate, instead of blaming the candidate for being pro-genocide.
it’s all decades of manufactured consent
I don’t blame those who didn’t vote for Kamala for her stance on Israel, I get it. I’m just tired of people who didn’t vote specifically against Trump then act really surprised that the Democrats are putting up an anemic defense of our rights, because in theory they should have expected it, given how they voted. Asking why Democrats aren’t stopping fascism when you ostensibly did not support them because you felt they would not do enough to stop fascism should be readily apparent.
I am not using “you” here as in you, piefood, just as a general you
I get what your saying, and to some extent I agree. But I also don’t think that they would be fighting fascism if they had more power. When they were the majority, they spent their time building up the systems that the fascists are using. They built up the surveillance state, immigration control, torture programs and the police/military powers. They should have spent their time dismantling it, but the Democratics have the mindset of “It’s OK when the Blue Team does these things. Surely the Red Team won’t use that against us!”
If you didn’t support a genocide, you would have done something about it
and I am.
A fraud
You voted explicitly in favor of Trump you fraud
Trump voters voted for Trump. You really need to get out of your bubble and talk to them, instead of regarding them as some sort of immutable force like the weather.
You admitted to voting for trump. A vote for third party was a vote for trump. We’re done here you Russian fuckin troll
No, it’s really not a vote for Trump. Those votes aren’t his, or Harris’s
You can tell because they count the votes and everything. Oops, I mean, everybody else can tell. Just not you.
how? lol. try again.
Russian fraud. Bye
Fucking morons complain about the stranglehold that the Israel lobby has on this country, yet cannot understand how outright support for Palestine, in 2023-2024 would have completely sank any presidential campaign.
neat. where have we seen that rhetoric before? oh right. a century ago.
israel is doing a genocid. trump is a fascist.
i can’t vote for either.
no rep or dem candidate ran that fit my moral criteria on those hard lines.
if YOU are ok with genocide or fascism, you do you and go follow your leader.
Do you realize how small a percentage this actually is?
Only 33% of the pop lives in swing states, only about half of those are Democrats, only about 2% are defectors. You are bitching about 1/3 of 1% of the pop.
As it turned out, the people who withheld their vote for Kamala over the genocide didn’t actually matter in the election. Had every one of them voted for Kamala, I’m not aware of a single state that would’ve flipped. Not even Michigan
It pisses off both sides of the rift, but the genocide didn’t matter in terms of the election. Those not voting for Kamala over Gaza don’t get any credit/blame for Trump winning. ETA: I’d say they get to claim a moral victory for whatever that’s worth.
On the other hand, those who withheld their vote and are hoping the consequences of the election are going to teach the DNC or anyone a lesson are going to be sorely disappointed. No matter how passionate individuals are about the issue, the electorate gave it a collective shrug to absolutely no one’s surprise. Nothing is going to change about our Israel policy as a result of Trump’s victory.
Some day, our acceptance of the genocide is going to be seen as just as shameful as Clinton’s opposition to gay marriage and support of DA/DT. But not today. Fighting about it is just arguing with each other over scraps while the real enemy runs the kitchen.
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I agree with you. Maybe that came across as anti-Clinton. In my defense, I’ve always detested the Clintons and have little interest in spending words making him look better.
I do appreciate you pointing that out. It’s a valuable lens to look back with. Still, from our perspective today, shameful, even if necessary.
I dunno a single leftist irl who didn’t vote for Kamala
I know quite a few.
You and I must hang out in different circles. Good luck gettin through to em 🫡
you should really read up on who voted for rfk jr and jill stein it was all conservatives,.
That wasn’t leftists, that was just narcissists enjoying the smell of their own feces.
I voted for Kamala. Do I get to criticize the republican nazis and democrat asskissers and pushover cosplaying liberals letting all this happen? Or is this the part where you tell me that any criticism of Democrats is evil and wrong and I need to commit to supporting Gavin Newsom three years in advance or I’m exactly as bad as MAGA?
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They down vote because they can’t defend their alliance with the right. Can’t tell them apart from the right most days. Always the same vibes.
Pretty much.
Pushover liberals? Nah, you meant to say pushover democrats.
Because we have allowed impotent pacifist dipshits control the narrative for the Left too long, is why we are here.
democrats arnt condoning this, its all conservatives.
Some Democratic politicians flirt with the idea because they think it will help their chances to become president, like Newsom: https://calmatters.org/politics/2025/03/newsom-transgender-athletes/
Republicans
i witnessed a young woman crying at a mcdonalds the other day. she walked into the ladies room and a man was in there jerking off.
the problem has nothing to do with gender.
the problem is assholes.
this server is a sex predator and needs prison.
He was just playing a friendly game of “hold the pickles”.
*She. Come on the us is an equal sex predator nation.
Who’s “us”?
The short form for the nation of no longer united states…
This was by design. Anti-trans fear-mongering was always meant to punish men who don’t look manly enough and women who don’t look like 50s housewives. The cruelty is the point.
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It was never about women or safety. It was always about control, fear, and punishment.
Cowardly attacks on the most vulnerable for criminally-immoral political advantage. Leave our neighbors alone!
Sorry what was? Bathrooms? Are about punishment?
The Government trying to prevent trans people from using the “wrong” bathroom.
They claimed it was to protect women, but really it just hurts trans people and women by allowing strangers to demand women prove their gender.
I think that’s a fairly modern issue. I don’t think the idea of having separate restrooms for genders was ever meant to be about punishment when restrooms came about. I’d be interested to see evidence about this punishment theory though if there is any.
Bathroom access has long been used to punish undesirable groups and to keep them from public life. Women who chose to work outside the home were punished in the 19th century by not having access to restrooms. People of color were punished in the 20th century for daring to exist in society by being denied restroom access at white establishments. And now people are trying to punish trans and gender non-conforming people by denying them restroom access.
In case you haven’t connected the dots, the obsession over restrooms isn’t actually about restrooms. If you can restrict the ability of undesirables to access public restrooms, you can effectively bar them from public life. It’s a way of criminalizing innocent people without actually having to arrest or throw them in prison.
And yes, these laws do effectively ban trans people from any bathroom. I’m a trans person myself, but you wouldn’t know unless I told you. I would be violating the law if I used the women’s restroom in Florida. But if I went into the men’s, I would have people throwing me out, telling me I’m in the wrong bathroom. Hell, I could be arrested for trying to use the men’s room in Florida, the very bathroom the law requires me to use. There’s no easy way for me to even prove that I am trans. My legal documents have all been documented, and I went far enough in transition I couldn’t even prove my trans status by dropping my pants. And yet, the law in Florida requires me to use the men’s restroom. So if I use a restroom in Florida, I either have to violate the law and risk arrest if somehow someone were to figure it out and report me. Or I could follow the law and still face harassment, assault, and possible arrest.
Truthfully, to me, the law in Florida has done exactly what it was intended to do. I simply won’t set foot in the state of Florida, or any other state with a bathroom ban. The government of Florida has effectively barred me, an American citizen, from the right to visit the state. And all I did to deserve this banishment was be born trans.
It’s gross that the victim of this scenario is now made public and yet the sexual abuser identity here is protected? Wtf.
It’s also worth mentioning Buffalo wild wings in the comments. Because they apparently don’t have enough policy to keep their servers from trying to gender check people.
It’s also worth mentioning there’s only one BWW in Owatonna, Minn.
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Younger people are generally easier to groom. Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing, The Hitler Youth movement
It’s worse… My understanding is that you didn’t really have much of a choice about joining the Hitler Youth
Indeed, in 1922 certainly more like heavily encouraged boy scouts / girl guides. Be there or be a bit excluded from the social club. Compulsory by 1936. Trump in 2025 is starting with the schools, “burning the books” and imprinting his way. It won’t be long. We already have the SA with ICE and expect the SS. History is repeating whether by plan or otherwise.
And this is in a state with no anti-trans bathroom laws. This server has no excuse other than being a complete piece of shit. Wish they’d name and shame her.
Based on the article the server is a woman.
“She made me feel very uncomfortable,” Mudra said. “After that, I just don’t like going in public bathrooms. I just hold it in. … I want to be able to use the bathroom in peace.”
My point still stands, but thank you for the correction. Fixed.
can we switch to gender neutral bathrooms please?
But can you prove your gender is neutral? 🧐
All I know is that my genitals say “maybe”
Two magic 8 balls and one of those tubes that goes wuuueaugh when inverted
What makes genitals go neutral?
Lust for gold? Power?
It’s when your crotch is flat, obviously, like a playmobil
If you’re completely flat then there’s your proof
You can show them your flat pics
Alternative version: you show them your intersex official member card™️
I’m as anatomically impaired as a Ken doll.
Yes
In a society where women are often harassed, many women use bathrooms to escape men, even if just for a few moments of peace.
The problem is, with women like this server around, you can still get harassed in the bathroom even with no men present. So I’m not sure it has much value as a refuge at this point.
My wife has shared so many crazy stories of shit going down in women’s restrooms. Like, men just do their business and get out. It’s one of the few things you could argue isn’t toxic about masculinity
Everywhere needs at least one single occupancy gender neutral restroom.
But saying that, I’ve been harassed while trying to use a porta potty. Can’t win for losing.
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If you’re being harassed, I feel like going is a closed space like a bathroom is probably the worst idea possible
She should press charges for harrassment.
What an absolute fascist restraunt
you keep using that word… i do not think it means what you think it means
You’re right, BWW probably isn’t fit to be called a restaurant
arguing with absolutism vs expediency i see
Welcome to Republicans’ America. This comes right after Trump’s administration started forcing trans folks out of the military, yet denying them retirement benefits. People with 15-18 years of service to our country that had been previously approved for early retirement have now had that rescinded because they are “medically unfit”. The hatred is in full force…
having their retirement stolen from them is fucking vile
I’m actually surprised that I have not heard about people dying as a result of this
I’m surprised there haven’t been lawsuits around breach of contracts
Early retirement is a privilege not a right. At least that’s how it works in the Military.
It’s not like retiring is their choice, they’re being kicked out.
I know, which is why the packages are being denied. The packages won’t be approved because they don’t meet standards. It’s bullshit because the standards changed under them, I was in a similar boat when I was in. But that’s how the system works
That’s a weird passive-voice way to say “the system was weaponized against them.”
It seems like these news stories only get written when the victim is a cis person mistaken for being trans.
It’s because trans technology is so advanced that they all pass undetected. /s
In all seriousness, I think it reflects just how distorted the anti-trans bigot’s perception of reality is and how enabled they feel to act on those perceptions. These people believe that trans people are more common than they actually are and they are hyper-fixated on proving it.
I think your critique of the “not a problem until it affects me” nature of this is valid; however, this also signifies that transphobia is becoming less rhetorical and more actionable. That is terrifying for anyone who doesn’t meet the arbitrary socially acceptable expressions of gender.
My hope here is that more people will come to realize how stupid transphobia and gender/bathroom policing is when they start to realize that it affects them, too.
The last one before this I read was an ftm guy, Luca Strobel, who had to use the woman’s bathroom since there were no stalls in the men’s.
https://lemmy.ca/post/45048725
https://lemmy.world/post/30614642Though, those publications are considerably less mainstream, so you still have a point.
Everything about that is just fucking awful. And who even makes a toilet with no stalls?! Do men not need to shit? Wtf
There are way more cis people.
That is the default settings.
Pretty sure you’re right that there’s more articles about cis people being “inconvenienced”. However I can think of at least 3 reasons off of the top of my head:
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there are way more cis people than trans people. While I strongly suspect that a larger percentage of the trans community is affected compared to cis people, purely by numbers it’s still more likely to affect cis people more frequently just because there’s so much more of them. Depending on which statistics you listen to only 0.5% - 3% of people are trans.
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trans people (and especially the ones who do not pass particularly well) are more likely to avoid public bathrooms now. Cis people are more likely to not expect any issues and not think twice.
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Apparently a decently large part of the right wing voter base would agree with trans people being denied entry into bathrooms. It’s what people decided this “law” was for in the first place (not that that this law was even applicable here). However if you show those same people that someone they empathize with also is negatively affected that’s more likely to lead to change.
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One thing is that these are the stories that actually have some vague chance at swaying a person that thinks we should be policing trans use of bathrooms. If they see more trouble and harassment of the class of people they think they are protecting, maybe part of them has to see it’s doing even more against their cause than the alternative.
Another is that trans people are relatively more rare, so it just makes plain sense that this will usually happen to a cisgender person. If someone thinks that someone seems not to look like their gender, odds still are that they are cisgender just by the numbers.
The biggest group affected are most likely ciswomen, since people love to control how women look and act, and there’s just way, way less transwomen in the toilets. Meaning the most commonly happening effect of these crazy bathroom laws is basically punishing ciswomen for not looking feminine enough
If you’re a minor being questioned like this, start screaming PEDO. Guaranteed they back down once they realize what she said and what they’re doing is quite disturbing
Guaranteed they back down once they realize what she said and what they’re doing is quite disturbing
Cruelty isn’t a bug, it’s a feature. MAGA has a massive cruelty hardon. The dumbth voted for this because they are seething with resentment at being made to feel stupid (by the “intellectual elites”) and backwards (by progressives) and ignorant (by the informed) and intolerant (by the woke). You can literally hear what they’re pissed about in the names that they call people. They WANT people hurt. They WANT revenge. THIS is what the dumbth want.
Well, I want THEM hurt too! I want them to get the peeeerfect caricature of what they believe in, and watch them suffer under.
I want them to be smarter and less hateful. They would be a lot happier if they worked to improve themselves instead of trying to tear everyone else down.
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I’ll remember this when I’m an 18 year old minor
