Of course, not Tomi Lahren though…
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Add to this list:
- Andrew Tate
- Jordan Peterson
- TP USA
We see you guys and you make us drier than the Sahara. Please grow a personality that isn’t hating women
Fun Fact: Rot Brain Peterson has, on the record, unironically advocated that “society needs to work to make sure men are married” so they don’t become violent.
And he says feminists are the ones besmirching masculinity.
Incredible, he’s infantilized men into big dangerous toddlers that throw a violent fit when they don’t get what they want.
The best part is his incel base ate it up and assumed he meant government-issued sex slaves, so he clarified that he just meant society, aka the literal patriarchy, needs to shame the very idea of not being in a monogamous hetero couple so hard it is socially unacceptable to do anything else (you know, again)
That’s such nonsense… if one wants to “solve” the incel problem through sex… what we really need is polyandry, and the more non-hetero the better.
And sex robots.
Government issued sex dolls? Sounds like my kinda place.
To be fair it’s a really bad sign for the stability a country if there is a large population of unemployed men.
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Giving them women to abuse also doesn’t work for women. We get that some old men in charge prefer it though
We met and discussed it and we’ve rejected the proposal from Peterson and those like him that violent men be just our problem. Time to address the toxic masculinity on a society wide scale, including the disgusting incentives we’ve allowed to arise under capitalist patriarchy… or collapse and burn. Your choice
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These men are not just poor souls, that simply haven’t met the right woman yet. These are socially incompetent men, that turn their frustration into hate. They’re basically the Principal Skinner meme “Am I wrong? No, it’s all the women who are wrong!”.
What can you realistically do about that? Maybe schools could try to do a better job to integrate them, but even that is dubious.
You are not wrong in the analysis, but let’s be honest, there has always been this breeding ground. And at least today, they want to be in that position. They could better themselves at any point, but they choose to self-victimize. That’s not a thing politics can change.
What is Toilet Paper USA?
Turning point USA is Charlie Kirk’s (I think) organization. It’s your typical right-wing “you’re anti-capitalist, yet you live in a capitalist society. Curious.”
Toilet paper USA is that format, but with Charlie Kirk’s head subtly photoshopped (maybe).
Hoarding things unrelated to a feared potential outcome?
I searched for JRE the other day expecting a link to Java Runtime Environment.
Now Google thinks I like Joe fucking Rogan.
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This just in: 55% of women said they would not date a man that programs in Java.
My response: “Really? How is it not 85%‽ Factory.Factory jobs have been on the way out for decades…”
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I’m Gen X and I’d rather sew my vagina shut than go near any man into Musk/Peterson/Trump/Rogan, etc, for what it’s worth. Can’t speak for the boomers though.
Thank you for your service
Real question, what’s wrong with Rogan? I get that he says some things that I might not agree with myself, but he’s still fun to watch in my opinion.
I agree he’s fun to watch
But he’s also a sneako right winger. he always claims to be just asking questions but he platforms primarily people on the right, including his ghoul of a friend Alex Jones, with occasional responses from the other side, but it’s heavily skewed. He’s a hard r republican even in violation of his own beliefs, supporting politicians who would re-criminalize weed
Shapiro might be a smarmy queef, but at least he wears his allegiance on his sleeve, Rogan, Peterson, and Musk play coy for broader appeal like they’re not fully in line with the party and they don’t understand the allegation, when they absolutely are and they absolutely do. To quote one of them “I can’t say I respect that”
smarmy queef
lmao
right lol, feel like i have to wash my mouth out with soap just get some of the residuals out
His podcast used to be like sneakily listening to your dad and uncle shoot the shit. It would be funny, insightful, philosophical etc.
Now it’s like listening to your senile grandpa bitching about the same thing over and over again telling the same story and shitting on the youth for doing the same thing he did when he was younger.
Best way I can describe it.
This but if your granpa is often inviting antivaxxers and transphobes over to chat and every time they say something fucked up he’s just like “Ya… totally…wow… you’re right…”
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Not gonna lie, people throw around the word ‘fascist’ too much. The word has basically lost all meaning at this point.
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How does this apply to Rogan?
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Who though? Who is the fascist?
I nearly noped out on a date with someone when she revealed that she thought the Joe Rogan experience was “funny”.
Weirdest thing about listening to jre is that you realize that Joe is deeply unfunny. He has a few funny friends though.
Even his old stand up was just not very good. He seems to be likable on a personal level though so he got along well with the actually funny comedians. I think the Golden age of his career started when he went on Tom Green’s internet TV show and got the idea to do the Joe Rogan experience.
Tom Green is often unrecognized as one of the earliest pioneers of video podcasting or whatever you want to call it. His home studio and webcast show were quite ahead of their time, and also had some really great guests and content. I loved the one with Norm Macdonald
Most comedians will bend over backwards to compliment Joe and gas him up about how influential a comedian he is, just so they can use his show as a promotional tool.
He is influential.
What other platform can showcase a comedians unscripted wit for 2 hours?
Rogans just not a good comedian. He’s probably better than me, but I’m a pretty low bar.
Depending on the guests it can be. Some of his comedian friends are quite funny. I like watching Bill Burr tear into him.
Nearly? There’d be a me shaped hole in a wall. Get some real standards bro.
Him: [I might’ve found my other half!]
Her: “I find Joe Rogan funny”
Him […it could still be a one night stand]
Get some real standards bro.30-odd years ago someone told me on a BBS: “if you’re horny, and can’t help it, get a brick and deal with it”. I got standards… /s
That’s even worse than watching his podcast. I’ve never thought he was funny.
It’s hilarious to me that Republicans have now decided that whole generations of Americans are the enemy. They love to shit on millennials especially but any young generation is a weak, woke, twisted mob come to ruin the world. Hating all young people (aside from Kyle Rittenhouse) is not a well-thought-strategy.
Millennials are not young anyway. I’m a millennial and I’m 40.
Definitely: they got this “millennials” idea stuck in their heads 10 years ago and they still use it as shorthand for “these kids today.” You try to talk to them about GenZ and Alpha and they roll their eyes and say “the who now?”
they got this “millennials” idea stuck in their heads 10 years ago and they still use it
They started on about it in the mid 90s and just like all their shitty ideas, they’ve never changed any opinion with new evidence ever. Look at this focus group (@23:10) of republicans and after half of them say they’d vote for trump even if he’s in jail, one guy says there’s no line for the supporters, and that they’d vote for him even if he died. The response from the trumpet is to complain about biden.
You see, it’s because they’re stupid.
Daily Show had it right 20 years ago: Republicans are either stupid and/or evil.
I always get a kick out of this, I tell people that I am one of the younger millennials and I’m 32. Older people just have millennial=young person in their head.
and I’m 32
I mean we are kinda young still… no? Aren’t we? Guys??
Older people just have millennial=young person in their head.
And younger people just have boomer=old person in their head, which as a Gen-Xer drives me nuts every time I’m labeled as a Boomer.
Fucking “woke” man… it’s kinda nice in a way, because now I know whenever I see that word brought up I can safely ignore what comes after it as the person has proven that they’re brainwashed by Reich wing media…
It’s absolutely fucking ridiculous seeing the “discussions” section on Steam about a goddamn video game be filled with “Is this game woke?” “BOYCOTT WOKE GAME” “Remove the option to have pronouns or we’ll cancel you!”
Absolutely fucking brainwashed… Literally a bunch of Pavlov’s dogs running around getting triggered by options in a video game because they were conditioned to.
I actually remember before the term “woke” got stolen by Fox News and was frequently used across Black Twitter as a shorthand for taking the red pill on seeing racism and intersectional grief in our society. Once your eyes are open to these truths, you can’t stop seeing them.
Ah OH BOY some people have a PROBLEM with the truth being plainly seen and spoken about. Can’t have that!
It’s actually kind of a tragedy that the word has taken on that perception. There are some things that can and should be discussed that fall under the “woke” definition. But there’s no good alternative word. DEI is commonly used, but it’s not applicable in some instances when woke still would be. So we’re left kind of floundering around looking for words to describe a concept that is easily summed up as woke, just to avoid the perception of being a close-minded bigot. This isn’t the first, and certainly won’t be the last thing that the right has taken, bastardized, and used until it’s tired and worn out.
It’s okay, we had to deal with being called SJWs for a long time as well. This kind of idiotic cock blocking isn’t going to stop people from slowly evolving out of the unjust systems of thought we’ve inherited.
Same with social justice. To me it’s one of the most important topics. I hate the SJW memes.
OK Boomer.
While I agree that Republicans have absolutely marked younger generations as the enemy, Democrats are doing the exact same thing with older generations.
Mm no, we’re not going to “both sides” this. First of all, OK Boomer was not invented by the democrats nor is it a democratic harping point. The democrats have some of the oldest politicians of all time in The White House and running Congress.
Secondly, the Democrats don’t actively legislate against the interests of old people, as Republicans do with their war on reproductive rights, resistance to college debt forgiveness, and terrible environmental record.
So no: it is not in any way or degree “the exact same thing.”
Oh no… You killed him :(
Also they really don’t tolerate college students voting.
The debate surrounding millennials is a challenging and nuanced topic, increasingly rising at an accelerating rate of percentage growth expansion velocity, per year per capita. For instance, many would agree that Albert Einstein was a great millennial, but Adolf Hitler not so much.
It’s almost as if even regular young people can see that Rogan’s show is a prototype of how to normalize stupidity and give platforms to manipulative grifters. Medical misinformation, not-so-subtle right wing agenda (read: anti-science, anti-LGBTQ, or at least the willingness to platform people with those views) and giving safe space to regressive “common sense” type debate. Panty melting shit, that.
“You just need to float in my tank, bro. It’s filled with rhino blood and gorilla jizz. Man you right up.”
IDK if I’d come to that conclusion since 45% don’t consider it a turn off.
a) how many women simply don’t know him, or don’t know him well enough to warrant an instant turn off?
b) how many women see it as a red flag, but are willing to give the benefit of the doubt?
Surveys like these are always a bit tricky, because you often don’t actually see the phrasing of the questions and you also can’t see, what the thought process was behind coming to a yes/no conclusion.
But then how do you account for the fact that he was a very large Bernie Sanders supporter? He is also against the polarization of America.
Additionally, he has called out that nearly 19 of the top 20 Facebook Christian pages were actually fronts for Russian information operations to divide America.
The more our adversaries make us hate each other and dehumanize people we disagree with, the more they succeed.
Both the PRC and Russia are doing active information operations on the US based on what has been going on. They want division. They are making us give up our faith in democracy.
Focusing on only the small bits that confirm your conclusion while ignoring all the things that go against it (like his huge amount of support for right wing politics, anti-vaxx sentiments, science denialism, constant stream of misinformation, and platforming people like Alex Jones, restating that same Russian propaganda you’re complaining about) is confirmation bias.
Also he’s one of the biggest dividers in America. If he’s against it so much, you’d think he’d take a step back and figure out how to stop doing that. But no, he doesn’t actually give a shit.
Why does it have to be an all or nothing judgment on an individual?
Why can’t we be more nuanced?
Have you actually finished any of his episodes or are you operating off of what someone else told you? I figure you aren’t going to openly admit to that because it goes counter to your argument.
If you haven’t already seen it I would recommend the video Johnny Harris, a YouTube journalist, gives an in depth take on Joe Rogan. He is critical of Joe Rogan on some aspects. Here is the video:
https://youtu.be/sLaXSvpfDZs?feature=shared
I don’t agree that he hosts some conspiracy theorists on his shown but does that make him a bad person? No.
None of this is actually a response to anything I said, it’s just flailing in other directions.
The confirmation bias you displayed is antithetical to the nuance you’re claiming to aim for.
Of course I’ve watched his show. He’s been on for years and it’s a very prominent show that has had all kinds of people on that are worth listening to.
GOP politician : The younger generation isn’t voting for us!
GOP strategist: We need to make fun of their beliefs and concerns more!
The actual strategists have long since left or are in an alcohol induced stupor. The “strategists” remaining are true believers that are horrible at strategy.
And yet the current strategy continues to ensnare young and old people alike. I think you need to reconsider that the wolfs are in the henhouse and things are going according to plan.
They barely took the House, lost a Senate seat, and lost significant state seats in the first midterm against a president with a trifecta and a rocky economy. Abortion has become a gigantic millstone around their neck, and they can’t figure out what to do with it. Their excuse for strategists aren’t being listened to.
That was at the end of a redistricting cycle, in a Senate year favorable to Dems. Next election will be more difficult.
GOP have gerrymandered their way into a majority in the House, the Senate is pre-gerrymandered for them (because establishment Dems visibly abandoned the working class during and after NAFTA), and they don’t even pretend to expect to get a straight popular majority in any upcoming Presidential elections.
They’ve abandoned democracy. They know they can’t get a majority of popular votes in a straight-up count, and they know they don’t need to. All they need to do is continue ratfucking the system and keep a strategic fringe endlessly outraged, and they’re set.
The GOP pushed their message so hard now the cart is leading the horse and there’s nothing they’re willing to do to stop it.
I really cannot wait until millenials and GenZ grow older take over the world. The youth of today are just so much smarter than us, and I feel like they are more exposed to internet media that they aren’t easily influenced. I just hope there is enough of the world left for them after we are done with it.
As a millennial, I disagree. Plenty of my friends, whom used to be outspoken idealist have taken industry jobs for known bad actors. Not being poor, not living in squalor, and being able to afford a visit to the doctor, being able to afford housing, being able to afford to raise a family, these are not minor things. And at a certain point many will just give up, and give in to those who offer security and comfort. And also there’s just a ton of youth media whose only core value is wealth obtainment. I’ve several friends proudly proclaiming they can’t wait to be rich, will grind and hustle, but can’t be bothered to vote; including a couple with graduate degrees.
I think a lot of people put way too much weight on these terms: baby-boomer, genz, millennial etc. They’re primarily used for marketers to try and segment us into targetable demographics. And by lazy journalist to make very broad sweeping categorizations of huge groups of people. Sociologists and economists probably use the terms with a bit more specificity on average, but that gets lost when communicating with a general audience. I think we have way more in common then a lot of us like to think. I typically get down-voted for having this opinion, because a lot of people don’t want to hear that, no they are not actually special. There have been many amazing people that came from the generations prior to our own, there will be some from our own, but most of us will behave the same way humanity always has when put in similar conditions.
I have little hope that future generations will be better at running the planet. So far they appear to be arguably just as easily influenced, open to fads and greedy as their parents.
“True terror is to wake up one morning and discover that your high school class is running the country.”
Born in the upper half of the 90s - yeah, maybe. 2000+ - I’m not sure at best. Sometimes I meet amazingly smart people on the first look from that group, but then there are gaping white spots in their worldview.
and I feel like they are more exposed to internet media that they aren’t easily influenced.
That’s wrong. They are fscking clueless.
I’m tail end of the 90s and my half brother is late 00s, the difference in attitude, work ethic and learnings is astounding.
I have personally witnessed this kid (I love him I swear) throw a controller through a TV because Fortnite lost connection (old man turning the wifi off because it’s the only way to get his attention).
It fucking disgusts me, I know I was bad when I was younger, but nothing like that.
I’m not even sure Millennials will get their time in the sun at this rate, some numpty in politics will find a new idea for legislation to ensure the millennial suffrage continues unabated.
Yes. If you can condition mice to do things, you can condition humans.
So - with that generation the benefit from possibilities they technically have is negated and more by the conditioning which wasn’t quite there when we were growing (it both wasn’t as easy to do and the companies doing it were still developing).
I can absolutely point to the exact moment my grades started going down, and it was when I started taking a phone to school. I have no clue why they’re not banned outright, and in some instances in my country they provide these kids with laptops. It was of great use to me in my final school years, however it was borderline necessary to complete many of my studies on a PC. All I hear regarding these newer ones, is that they’re constantly subverting the schools lockdowns of the devices to play Fortnite etc. I remember pulling the exact same shit when Minecraft came out, and we were already making a mess of the library with CS1.6
On related news, their standards are pretty low, as a whooping 45% of Millenial and GenZ
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There are plenty of other podcasts with great episodes that don’t platform Nazis.
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the “alien/DMT phase” was literally the conspiracy and Alt-right pipeline
When the nazis start marching, no, there’s no room for nuance. You squash them, grind them to dust, and do the same for all their supporters.
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Where are these nazis… Im living the same as i always have… Not really seeing any burning crosses around 🤔
Not a big news follower, are ya?
You wanna show me the news with rampant increae of nazism impacting daily life? Or just cry that people are saying words…
Not really seeing any burning crosses around
Well, that would be the KKK so it explains why you haven’t noticed Nazis if that’s what you’re looking for.
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Alex Jones is a white supremacist. He has had Jones on the podcasts, ergo platforming him. Therefore “Rogan platforms Nazis” is, pretty much, a true statement.
And no, I’m not programmed to dislike Jones, I’ve come to that opinion after listening to his unedited show for years. He uses the terminology, rhetoric, and arguments found in white supremacy talking points. Jones isn’t going to out right say “I’m a Nazi” or etc. (unlike Kayne – who he suspiciously didn’t boot immediately alongside Nick Fuentes when they explicitly say that), because it’s the third rail you can’t touch and be a propagandist for the masses. Which is his aim.
Alex Jones is a white supremacist. He has had Jones on the podcasts, ergo platforming him. Therefore “Rogan platforms Nazis” is, pretty much, a true statement.
Alex Jones is a nutjob, not a nazi. So claiming “Rogan platforms nazis” is completely false.
And no, I’m not programmed to dislike Jones
Chill out dude. If you listened to JRE hours upon end and think Joe Rogan is an nazi soapbox, there is something wrong with you man. For one, why do you tune into to JRE if hes sooooo evil and gives meanies a platform? And second I am calling BS that you listen to JRE for hours. If you do not like Joe Rogan, you will not consume his content, especially hours of it.
I didn’t say I listened to Joe Rogan for hours — I said I listened to Alex Jones for a considerable amount of time. I only gave a counter example to show that Joe Rogan does, in fact, platform Nazis. To do that I only need to show one example where he does. And it’s one white supremacist I’m familiar with.
To my knowledge, being a nut-job doesn’t preclude somone from being a white supremacist. If they’re propagandizing white supremacists talking points to a large audience, even if “mad”, they’re still a fucking white supremacist. Honestly, the cogent ones are more scary. But, If they’re talking about the ‘fall of the western civilization’, the threat of the ‘globalists’, or aping rhetoric from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion: they’re a white supremacist. Which Alex spins into current events around a narrative to have people believe the world is ending in a month or so just in time before the lovely ad pivot. Again, it’s not something he’ll directly say, but its something that gets picked up over time after listening to him for way too long. A through line, of sorts, as he dons and shifts positions, or the conspiracy ‘flavor of the week,’ as he picks up whatever narrative he finds helpful so he can continue to doomsay.
I will say Jones has some sort of illness, but I don’t know the exactly where it ends and his act that enriched him begins. For example, 2008-2012 era Jones hits differently than 2016 onward.
I’d be more than happy to pick out audio clips where he does precisely this, if you want. However that will take me a bit cause I don’t have a perfect recollection of all the vile shit he’s said. There’s always the Knowledge Fight podcast, where they debunk the idiot, but that’s your call. They, weirdly enough, were expert witnesses at Jone’s Sandyhook civil trial.
Edit: A good day Knowledge Fight covers of Alex’s show is episode 796: February 4, 2004. Start at 11:07 to avoid the podcaster bloat. It’s a case where everyone who is a guest just so happens to be Nazis. Of course, there are many of other days like this, of course.
I have to confess that I don’t really know who Joe Rogan is, sorry.
He was the electrician in the 90s sitcom NewsRadio. Then he told people to eat weird stuff for a while. Now he’s just super into drugs and platforming right-wing nutjobs as far as I can tell.
But NewsRadio was pretty great.
OK. Never heard of NewsRadio. Sorry.
So as far as I’m concerned, he’s yet another Internet lunatic with a following of cretins peddling the usual (I suppose)…
I sometimes wonder what the hippies would have made of the Internet. Would they have spread love through the fibre?
There’s still plenty of people who were hippies in the 60s around and on the internet today… No need to wonder… Find one and ask them.
A lot of hippies are now into Q-anon and shit. It’s really sad.
Maybe.
I don’t know how to put this, maybe it’s just me, I know that nowadays it seems weird…
But if a link is a video, I just close it.
If it’s text, I can parse it and get a feel for it because I’ve spent a lifetime browsing text.
You can’t browse video.
You can’t search video.
You can’t have an overview of video.
Video plain sucks for almost everything.
Video is great for monetization.
Unless you can’t read. Videos suck.
I can read.
Sorry about the rant. I’m really pissed off about the video everywhere trend. So, anyway, I don’t watch videos.
I’m not going to reply with videos, you sicko.
You right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCMxnS1438g
I don’t go out of my way to listen to him, but some of his episodes with people like Neil Degrasse Tyson and Brian Cox come up in my YouTube feeds. As long as Rogan isn’t talking then they’re ok.
And that is exactly the problem. He did some episodes with reputable media figures/science communicators, so it seems to a naive listener, like these are just regular interviews. And then he has a bunch of weirdos that just spout conspiracies, bullshit and hate, but since it’s in the exact same style as the interviews with reputable people, a naive listener might assume that the conspiracy nut is as trustworthy as all the other people. And that’s dangerous.
On related news, their standards are pretty low, as a whooping 45% of Millenial and GenZ woman women would drop as low as having a partner ONCE that listens to “The Joe Rogan Experience”.
I made it more clear.
You know, some just don’t know what that potentially means, but the number who would be willing to do this again (after the definitve breakup or breakdown, which ever comes first) is way, way, way lower.
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I listened to his Bernie episode he does sometimes have someone on im curious about I listen about 3 times a year
Yeah I feel like he was one of the first ones doing those long form interviews which was great. He had Sean Carroll on and told him to start his own - which he then did, and it’s awesome. As soon as others started doing those kinds of podcasts (and Rogan got more insane) I stopped listening to joe. I don’t think that makes me the crazy one but wtf do I know
Imo, joe has gone downhill since the beginning.
I had already devoted most of my podcast time elsewhere when the Spotify deal happened, but that was certainly the end of the 2nd era of joe, the normalization to facilitate sell out.
The Dan Aykroyd episode was particularly sad. Possibly the last time i attempted a full episode with hope for a good one.
Oh no. Don’t tell me Elwood Blues has gone off the far end. I know he’s a bit of a UFO nut but hopefully he’s not gone full rogan!
Sadder. Full shill. Just was spouting bullshit abiut his alcohol brand, probably a tequilla ¿because TQ amd the blues go together?
And then just rehashed some already debunked UFO shit Dan had been clinging to from some Bolivian blowout in the 70s.
Just was an infomercial for Aykroyd to try to sell whatever crap products he put his name on at the time.
I used to listen for the broad variety of guests he’d have. I haven’t* caught one in a long time but there are some people I’ll watch wherever they’re on.
Don’t forget Jordan Peterson being a turn off!
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[>“Violent attacks are what happens when men do not have partners, Mr Peterson says, and society needs to work to make sure those men are married. ‘The cure for that is monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges,’ [he says.] Enforced monogamy is, to him, simply a rational solution. Otherwise, women will only go for the most high-status men, he explains, and that couldn’t make either gender happy in the end.
“‘Half the men fail,’ he says, meaning they don’t procreate. ‘And no one cares about the men who fail.’
“I laugh, because it is absurd.
“‘You’re laughing about them,’ he says, giving me a disappointed look. ‘That’s because you’re female.’”](https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/may/23/jordan-peterson-public-intellectual-isnt-clever-violent-men-monogamy)
Is this the same Tammy Loreen who was too dumb to foresee that her party of fascists would be against her views that women should have rights?
Saw a post from a Joe Rogan sub Lemmy. Immediately BLOCKED.
lol I just looked it up so I could block it too. Fortunately, it looks like the two people that posted there gave up and abandoned it a month ago.
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No that was the one from TPUSA. Tami is the one who got the nose job and was fired from Breitbart (I think? One of the right wing rags) for saying “hey maybe a women’s right to choose what to do with her body isn’t completely evil” and then got a job at Fox news and someone threw a cup of water on her whilst she was eating lunch
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I’m reminded of photos of governor’s signing bills that end access to abortions or criminalize gender affirming care or sinilar within the state. It’s always a collection of white women with long blond hair who all look extremely similar
No that’s Jennifer
What is the point she is trying to make? That women have agency? This is what passes for controversy on the right th se days?
I don’t think that’s the point she was trying to make.
