what they mean by that is, “thank god they learned to mask the problem so they stop inconveniencing us”
Yeah. I feel like it never bothered me when younger (he’s “gifted and mature”) but you get screwed later on when you have a 8-5 office job where you sit and stare for 9 hours. I can’t focus on boring useless stuff like that. Unfortunately, the alternative is destroy your body doing manual labor to keep moving around. Plus. You make a lot more money sitting and staring at a screen. So just keep it bottled up and pretend you know what you’re doing and don’t feel like going nuts!
… when you are medicated
I don’t think the ADHD necessarily gets worse, it’s more often that the consequences get worse.
I.e. the intensity of the disorder relative to a given set of stimuli doesn’t increase, but the average significance of the stimuli (and consequently the outcome of one’s reaction to them) does increase.
You could argue that’s a meaningless distinction, but perhaps it’s a helpful change in perspective for someone.
No, it gets worse. Adults don’t have the amount of mental plasticity that younger people have. While it’s possible to make things easier through CBT and learning to cope and deal with certain challenges. The mental load of keeping up with daily life ultimately has its toll. Life is getting harder every year for everyone, and having ADHD makes that mental load just that much harder.
It can get worse after school because not having a schedule imposed on you means you’re left to your own devices and will often focus too much energy towards the wrong endeavors. Building a routine of healthy habits and sticking to it can make a world of difference.
Well, there is partial truth to this. Diagnosing especially preteens with mental health conditions almost always needs an asterisk, their brains are still heavily developing.
Remember that we know of no reliable genetic / physiological markers for ADHD, so when doctors diagnose it, they’re really just saying that the amount of symptoms seems to be severe enough. Some kids are just naturally more energetic, intelligent, etc. and may appear like they have ADHD, but when they develop into adults that might not actually be the case.
If anything, it’s more like 1/3 of kids were misdiagnosed as having ADHD, so they “grew” out of it because they didn’t really have it. It’s a lot less likely for an adult to be misdiagnosed because their brains aren’t changing.
Great reminders about the lack of physiological markers. The (or one?) elephant in the room, to me - I’d phrase it as - to what degree a kid’s just naturally well- or poorly-suited to the public school environment itself.
A child that finds it difficult to sit in one place and listen to words about abstract material for hours every day…I mean does that sound divergent in any way?
One of the fundamental markers of childhood in my experience is a certain…animation, just this almost irresistible urge to move around, negotiate whatever activity is occurring and in what way, with whoever is nearby…switching activities and modes of play fluidly. Seems like the most normal shit ever to me lol.
I do recognize we need a standardized way to educate our kids in a modern society, but as we learn more about young brains, we gotta start developing a more diverse way to accomplish the learning and development of self-discipline. The one-size-fits-all approach just obviously leaves many underserved, and worse, leaves them internalizing a lot of frustration with self, not to mention taking all kinds of drugs to “treat those symptoms”.
Of course it got worse, I have to work now
Turns out that people don’t “grow out of” physiological differences in how their prefrontal cortex forms. Who would have thought?! /s
You want me to pay bills? On time? Best I can do is rack up late fees.
Oh, my workaround for that is easy, just develop lifelong crippling anxiety and still forget about 10% of them anyways!
Anxiety is a heaven sent for the Bill Paying Problem.
I don’t have the ADHD. I am the ADHD.
Made this for ya while procrastinating
We’re all reading this while procrastinating
Hey, I don’t actually have any responsibilities right now! Except planning my lessons for next week, but I’ve got time. I guess I could also do the dishes or hang the laundry or email my advisor about my thesis topic…
Well shit.
Maybe YOU are…
(and also so am I:-)
I’m reading this and zoning out
I read this while not paying attention to an anime intro.
I was picturing that exact thing in my head but didn’t get around to making it. Thank you.
The officially changed it in my country to be an syndrome diagnosable in adults as well the very year I turned 18. I’m not saying it HAS to be because of me, but yeah.
Doctor leaves appointment with Droggelbecher
“Get the Chancellor on the phone immediately.”
Man it got worse in ways i didn’t think possible.
So convinced i understood myself and i actually masterminded my soul into stagnation…
…but a hand come out of the mud
So far, what do you think ADHD is?
Well yeah, if they got better, they wouldn’t be someone you know with ADHD. Obviously
Why does it seem like ADHD is the new Autism self-diagnosis? I’ve met a lot of people lately who have self-diagnosed themselves with ADHD.
Because a lot of people don’t have access to mental health resources, or even medical ones, and are struggling with the pressures of navigating a life setup for type A brains with a type B brain. They know “something” is off, and find symptoms match up with ADHD.
I only got diagnosed because I was at the hospital for something else, and the local specialist noticed something was off with my behaviour. (I was there for a little while, to be fair.)
As an adult, navigating anything administrative is a nightmare.
My adult appointment for testing/evaluation was nearly 2 grand. I met my annual deductible in a month because of it. I’m fortunate enough to be middle class, so I could afford it, but I can’t imagine someone making a lower end of middle class income just being able to drop that kind of money like that.
My provider that tested both of my kids stopped taking insurance for tests, so they wanted me to pay 13000 dollars for spectrum testing, I found a different provider and I still have to get lined up with a test but they’ve already started my adhd symptoms right away. It has been so nice after 34ish years of just coping
Because it was wildly under diagnosed in many places until recently, and if you weren’t a white boy you were a lot less likely to be correctly diagnosed.
I thought the consensus was that it was wildly OVER diagnosed in the late 90s to make kids shut up in school
edit: Oh lmao I just realized was sublemmy I’m in
That was the pop culture take on it, that doesn’t mean that’s what the evidence shows.
How exactly would your answer be different if you’d realised where you were?
My answer wouldn’t have changed, I just would’ve realized why I’m getting the same response over and over lol
You got that backwards.
Without looking it up, I believe the DSM says that diagnosis requires three out of five indicators. That would suggest that many people can get one or two indicators. Social media (specifically short form like twitter, instagram, and TikTok) has measurable negative impact on attention spans, while also propagating a narrative of colloquial symptoms.
“Whee look at me being neurodivergent!” - golly, I do that too! Maybe I’m ADHD.
For what it’s worth, I have both ADHD and mild autism. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist. I’m saying that the diagnosis is devalued by “oh i do that too, I’m also a little bit adhd”.
I self diagnosed before getting my formal diagnosis from a doctor. I was a hard yes to like 30 of the 32 signs of adult ADHD in Driven to Distraction.
At some point it’s kinda a relief to realize that other people are going through the same stuff as you, and start therapy and treatment that are actually catered to your needs since you’ve already tried a million other things and nothing has worked.
And yeah everybody struggles with executive function and attention sometimes. But like, we all bleed when we’re cut, doesn’t mean haemophilia is fake.
