Hasan Piker, the biggest progressive political streamer in America, was detained by Customs and Border Protection for hours of questioning upon returning to the U.S. from a trip to France this weekend. Piker posted about the incident on X and later talked about it on stream.
He was detained in Chiago and questioned for two hours about protected journalistic activities like who he’s interviewed and his political beliefs. He was asked whether or not he’d interviewed Hamas, Houthis, or Hezbollah members. He was questioned about his opinions on Trump and Israel and asked about his history of bans on Twitch. His phone and laptop were not confiscated.
Should he be detained like that, no.
He’s an absolute scumbag though
Any comment that has to point out his politics or “concerns with him” is completely missing the point.
Yeah, it’s disgusting that people’s first reaction to someone being unjustly detained is that.
progressive
Pretty sure dude is a leftist. Capitalist media has never encountered this before.
Borderline tankie. Remember him being best buds with putin before russia attacked Ukraine? Dude probably still blames NATO for that.
I can’t find any evidence for this? I only found a source of him saying Putin wouldn’t invade Ukraine.
Hasan Piker: I said Russia will never invade Ukraine, because Putin is a bad person, but he’s not a mad person.
I don’t care enough to sift through millions of hasan clips from 3 years ago to provide one person source.
I used to watch him before the invasion. But when he started banning pro-NATO people from his chat, and saying that putin is just being defensive, because of NATO’s imperialistic nature.
Dude’s an american idiot.
Saying Russia’s rationale is supported by evidence like the NATO chief saying that and lots of other “non pro Russia” leaders. Just because it’s a “banned” opinion in mainstream (not political correct) doesn’t make it false, or make one a tankie, or pro-Russia.
The problem is if you do not accept different viewpoints there is no space for negotiations or peace agreements, only questionable and bloody victory. And that little trick is the real 1984 for me, not the shit MAGA is pulling off. The entire mainstream and “left” have swallowed this narrative and attack anyone with different opinions with personal attacks, even if they have clear evidence supporting their opinions.
Ah yes, the good ol’ “stop resisting”. A true classic among you folk.
Here’s a summary in a meme format.
Oh I knew about Hasan saying Russia wouldn’t attack Ukraine. I mean I don’t know where the being best buds with Putin came from.
The saying “wouldn’t attack” isn’t my main gripe. It’s the constant blaming of NATO for the conflict. Which is word-for-word out of putin’s playbook.
Also, there were plenty of terms of endearment from hasan. It was never “putin bad” before the invasion. It was “putin smart, NATO bad”.
I don’t have any more sources for you, you can believe what you please. I don’t give a rat’s ass about the dickhead, and I’d like to stop talking about him right now.
Even if he is a dickhead, this kind of thought policing by border security is bad for all of us.
100% agree.
This is the reason I am extremely cautious with anyone of this ilk. There seems to be too many people who happen to be leftist. Socialist. Whatever. And then out of nowhere… whitewashing of putin/russia/soviets. … because america / nato / West bad.
Which I won’t abide for. Ever
“this ilk” go back to reading the silmarillion like the nerd you are
Wow. Vocabulary shaming. This is pure Anti-intellectualism. Shame.
Authoritarians love anti-intellectualism
I have a like/dislike perspective on Hasan Piker.
Hes tankie-lite. Critical support for him in this case though, fuck ICE.
Its probably an indicator that I really need to touch grass that I’m primarily curious what Ethan Klein and Lonerbox think of this.
Man, I liked some of Klein’s videos from way back ( idubbbz as well) but when YouTubers shift from whatever content they were making to making content about the platform or others on it I usually check out real quick.
I also can’t do 3 hour podcasts where people talk over each other and yell either so maybe I’m just not the target demo anymore.
Its further an indication that I need to touch grass that when I read your name I think of Vaush’s editor.
The questioning (though harmless) is often a stepping stone to more drastic measures. In the place where I live (not the US), my local religious police does questioning to make sure that activists are not posting their status online. This sort of measure helps them evade accountability and keeps the general public in ignorance.
This is what happens when you gut education, the “regular people” observing this no longer have the historical context of what this shit actually means in the scheme of things during an ongoing fascist takeover. “What’s wrong with them just asking questions to make sure he’s not a terrorist?”
So they let it happen, and in many cases, even cheer it on.
The questioning (though harmless)
There’s nothing “harmless” about kidnapping people and coercing them into an interrogation.
This sort of measure helps them evade accountability and keeps the general public in ignorance.
Yep, that’s some of the harm.
That is true. Interrogations do harm communities to a larger extent than I initially thought. I recall how my neighborhood had to stop everything (such as art, videos, embroidery, food) just so they could avoid police kidnappings. We had three post-doctoral candidates in our district arrested for insulting the sultan (and his religion) and although they were smart enough to hire defense counsel, their lawyers told us that their clients are “jailed without trial”.
In the place where I live (not the US), my local religious police does questioning to make sure that activists are not posting their status online.
Careful. Depending on which not-the-US country you’re in, this could be flagged as anti-semitism.
My guess is Iran, and OP should probably not confirm or deny for good reasons. Which other country have religious police, where it could flagged as anti-semitism though?
Yeah, it’s famously illegal to insult the Sultan of Iran
It’s too bad they didn’t let him stream it. That would’ve been peak content.
Never heard of this guy but must have hit a nerve if a whole Hasbara brigade is showing up here to trash talk him.
That being said, it’s an interesting turn of events that apparently units around immigration take the role of Gestapo. Makes a lot of sense given what types of people would even want to do such a job but it’s still not what I expected when they said fascism is coming back.
Right wing groups have been targeting him for his support of Palestine and being critical of Israel.
It should be a surprise to no one that government goons are totally on board with fascism. Did anyone think for a second that they would have objections? A person that chose to be in a position of authority is going to complain when an authoritarian leader gives them more power? Yeah right. It’s all about the power trip for those thugs.
The government is full of career public servants who are very serious about their work, and in nearly every case, have made a conscious decision to make less money in order to be able to use their knowledge and expertise to serve the public.
So I think it’s important to make a distinction about who you’re referring to when you say “government goons”
I think my comment and the theme of the post make clear who I was referring to.
Remember folks, it starts with the leftists, then it doesn’t stop until we lose for good. Every 80 years.
It didn’t start with leftists. It started with immigrants, but we didn’t do anything, because both parties are united in bigotry and vile hatred against immigrants.
no, it started with leftists. It just started a lot longer ago than you think.
we didn’t do anything,
Who is “we”? Please don’t include me in your nationalist cult.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion
The reality is that leftists have constantly been fighting for refugees, while libs/dems have been doing worse than nothing by supporting fascism.
Idk guys, I feel like I’m not going to just let them win. I think we can dish out more than they can.
Haven’t yet. Feelings and thoughts need to become words and actions.
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Is anyone surprised? This isn’t a jab at Hasan, it’s just a reminder that fascists will crack down on opponents. The likes of Hasan will be deliberately targeted until they’ve been silenced one way or another, and then they’ll come for you.
Is “are you surprised?” the measure we use now to determine if something is worth reporting on?
I’m actually surprised it didn’t happen sooner, but it’s still newsworthy.
Trump has been openly talking about persecuting his political opponents, so this is just an extension of that.
This is basically a warning to him to get out of dodge.
Probably a warning to others like him, too.
Crazy that in his stream with FD a few weeks ago he was adamant that he’d be one of the last people impacted by the immigration/border control nonsense.
I think it just goes to show how, even otherwise well informed people, can underestimate how much fascism will impact them personally. It can be easy to distance yourself until it is in your face, placing you in cuffs, or forcible removing you from your home. I hope he learns a lesson from this experience.
No fan of Hasan, but this shouldn’t be happening to anyone.
Who asked?
everyone loves ethan here so here’s a summary of hasan not supporting terror groups
You desperately need to escape the bubble that you’re in as a member of Ethan’s community. He’s become a useful idiot for Israeli propagandists and now even the MAGA fascists - as evidenced by the details of Ethan’s false accusations against Hasan being brought up by the CBP agent who detained him. By attacking and slandering pro-Palestinian content creators and influencers he feels personally slighted by he is unwittingly doing the bidding of Netanyahu and Trump both.
Ew theres h3 fans on lemmy :(
I’m not a H3 fan but Hasan and his followers are toxic shitbags that have been relentless harassing the Kleins by peddling false rumours of child abuse and maliciously calling CPS on them. And iDubbbz is frankly a hypocrite for how he handled his excuse of a Content Cop on H3.
maliciously calling CPS on them.
Hasan decries these acts btw.
And we don’t even know who’s making the call. Sure, Hasan represents a sizable community that on the whole is against H3, but there is still room for other actors in that balance equation. H3 has rubbed off a lot of their own fans. Could those people also be suspect? We don’t know for sure.
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There is literally video evidence of Denims (a streamer strongly associated with Hasan’s circle chatting to her viewers about calling CPS on the Kleins.) Unfortunately finding the footage itself was hard so I had to rely on a clip of Asmongold reacting to the drama. And before you tell me she isn’t… she’s collabed with Hasan a few times, defended him in this whole spat, and even appeared alongside him and fr0gan in the Content Cop H3 video. Apparently some of the disinformative tweets about Ethan were actually replied to/reposted by Anisa (Ian’s wife) too.
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iDubbbz didn’t even mention the CPS situation once in his Content Cop video (important for the context of the clips he was using to make Ethan look bad), and even in his Content Deputy response his whole response to this was just bad.
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Releasing that Content Cop in the first place made Ian look like a massive hypocrite, especially when he effectively apologized for his past series and some of the hurtful things he said. It’s clear he only dropped his latest CC out of desperation because he lost a lot of viewership from how badly he’s handled drama surrounding Creator Clash.
Denims is not Hasan, nor is she “strongly associated” with him. I’ve been watching Hasan for years and only recently have heard of her.
Also she did not call, ask her viewers to call, or endorse the calling of cps in the video you linked or anywhere else I’ve seen people make the claim.
so all three of your stupid points are wrong and irrelevant.
Denims
So not Hasan?
Where is your proof that Hasan personally told his chat to call in the CPS check?
I remember seeing a clip of the vapenation dude discussing at length and excessive detail the conditions his children were living in on his show. That clip alone likely warranted a check, no other content creators or their fanbases necessary.
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what makes you think i’m an h3 fan? maybe i’m just critical of hasan
here’s a summary of hasan not supporting terror groups
based?
Hasan’s a moron, but detaining him for his opinions is definitely unwarranted and stinks of the same bullshit reasons that this administration has been using to play hide and seek and deport anyone they don’t like.
I find it crazy to hear this coming from the US. It was all over the news when Serbia detained a Croatian singer trying to cross the border or trying to deport people with Croatian citizenship, crazy to see the same thing happening in the US.
Completely normal for USA. There are plenty of people who have been hiding from imperial violence. Snowden, Assange, et al. Always has been.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/abdulrahman-al-awlaki-us-drone-strike-10-years
These people get to ask Hasan head-empty questions for hours and get paid. To think his entire fanbase has been doing it for free this entire time
I’m starting to feel like a lot of the takes against Hasan are in bad faith. I watched a little recap and I felt it was both clear and obvious that YOU (normal person) shouldn’t do what he did.
But being a notable person of interest who was already (questionably?) illegally caught up in a bad system, there’s reason to believe things wouldn’t take a turn for the better just because he asked to lawyer up. So he took a calculated risk and engaged with the situation enough to gather a first hand experience he could report on. Concrete evidence, there’s value in that. It was his decision to make.
To reiterate, obvious YOU don’t do that. Stay silent, lawyer up.
EDIT: Timestamped.
Yeah you don’t have to watch Hasan for too long to realize that most objections against him are empty / bad faith. If he’s guilty of anything at all it’s getting distracted by / yelling at his chat too much. But I chalk that up to general Twitch culture. The reality is that he’s politically activating and engaging tens or perhaps hundreds of thousands of people who wouldn’t be otherwise, or would have been watching slop / right wing pipeline content instead. I wish there were more people like him in streaming, but obviously it’s a difficult niche to exist in.
They are in bad faith. If you watch a full argument from Hasan, it’s really difficult to not agree with him. The American centric view of the world is distorting everything. Step back, watch events from a different prospective, many things will be clearer.
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