bamboozle them with bullshit

The following quote from ChrisO_wiki on bsky

“@chriso-wiki.bsky.social Just figured out where these fake tariff rates come from. They didn’t actually calculate tariff rates + non-tariff barriers, as they say they did. Instead, for every country, they just took our trade deficit with that country and divided it by the country’s exports to us.” Just about sums it up.

No, it’s half the tariff those countries place on American goods. Or so he claims. I have no idea where those numbers come from.

It’s probably like his net worth, where “it goes up and down with the markets and with attitudes and with feelings”, “even my own feelings, as to where the world is, where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day”.

https://money.cnn.com/2011/04/21/news/companies/donald_trump/index.htm

Like he would even know what that is.

Apparently ChatGPT.

Play stupid games and win stupid prices.

He is playing Vlad Putin 8D Chess, not Donald Trump 1D Checkers. https://lemmy.world/post/27627662/16165977 This was all planned in 2013.

Introduction to the Kremlin media techniques of year 2014

1. Peter Pomerantsev September 9, 2014: Russia and the Menace of Unreality. How Vladimir Putin is revolutionizing information warfare

2. Adam Curtis, BBC, December 31, 2014: On The “Contradictory Vaudeville” Of Post-Modern Politics - “What this film is going to suggest is that that defeatist response has become a central part of a new system of political control. And to understand how this is happening, you have to look to Russia, to a man called Vladislav Surkov, who is a hero of our time. Surkov is one of President Putin’s advisers, and has helped him maintain his power for 15 years, but he has done it in a very new way.”

3. Book reading from December 5, 2014 on the subject by Peter Pomerantsev

One of my main rules of life is that people are most suspicious of the behavior they are most likely to perform. Cheaters think they’re being cheated on, thieves think everybody is stealing from them. If HitlerPig thinks everyone else is looting, pillaging, raping, and plundering, its because that what he does.

Buying from other economies does two things. One, you have access to their expertise/efficiency.

Not everyone will have invested in the same industry.

Will miss out on cheap labour. Cheap resources.

Don’t be dumb though, selling us USD for our products isn’t just “printing paper”. We use those USD (mostly we sell the debt to china) to buy USA companies. It’s capitalism after all.

China and Vietnam are producing a lot of the low cost every day items people use. It’s going to hit the lower income people the hardest. Thank goodness I’m in Canada.

You’re going to get tired of winning tariffs.

The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

It’s winning for magats because they wanted to hurt people

Russia and North Korea.

It’s official. We are the baddies now.

I think you’re reading too much into that.

They’re either under “Rest of world” like the EU, or the US doesn’t import anything from it, which as it’s under sanctions, it shouldn’t - nor export to.

They are rest of the World. How dissrespectfull.

Lost my job this week at an engineering firm in green tech. Let it burn.

Wrong.

The best things you can do are invest in green energy and energy storage projects, create polices that cap (and actually punish) carbon emissions, upgrade to more efficient infrastructure… All things that take money, a functional government and a functional economy.

What we learned from COVID, is that crashing the economy does not really slow down climate change, it just hits the pause button for a little bit, and then it resumes at the same or greater speed.

Sure, but he is just crashing Western economy as Russia is preparing to invade rest of Europe.

I’m an American, and I endorse this message.

But like, could I come visit if I need to seek asylum? That would be different than tourism, right? I’m not really happy or comfortable with the situation here, nor have my efforts been able to change other people’s views (e.g. make them think about consequences).

Make America go away!

I’m doing my part! More to strengthen the EU, than to weaken the US, but: Cancelled all US tech subscriptions (not a small deal as a software dev). Cloud services all moved to Scaleway in France, AI migrated to Mistral, mail to Tuta, maps to Mapy.cz and more…

How much do I have to make before my tax bill goes down?

Trump has no idea how the economy works, his wealth is propped up by Russian oligarchs laundering money through his assets.

This move is almost certainly being directed to him through foreign agents the traitor has as advisors (though they consider themselves handlers) on behalf of Putin and other regimes hostile to the US who back door’d their way into the situation through his greed and lack of morality.

It will have an effect on other countries, but fuck up the US economy the worst. Other countries have the benefit of having 190+ other countries to do trade with. Over the next few years, they will increasingly go for alternatives to whatever they’ve previously traded with the US. Thanks to the stable genius, the US will permanently be left poorer, while other countries will soon have economic growth again.

The overabundance doesn’t just vanish. When the poor have less, the wealthy have more. There may be more homeless people fighting over food but the billionaires will be able to get a fleet of yachts.

He is gambling on the fact that Us economy can hold off longer than other countries and they’ll cave

It’s like two people holding their breath bad for both but neither wants to lose

Most of the kit that is made in US uses parts distributed by other countries… So even domestic sales of US created products are likely to be impacted. Gotta give it to Krasnov, he’s doing a bloody good job at the task he’s been set.

Oh no. We produce stuff. The best weapons for killing people are made here.

Putting on my best swiss cheese brain, maybe they are treating it ‘like a business’ and trying to do debt to income ratio? So our deficit is the debt then they look at tariffs on the imported goods as the income.

Do you know if this holds for other countries too?

Why does he think tariffs are equal to trade deficits?

Thanks for the explanation! It is unbelievable that these are the folks with nuclear codes.

Thank you for the reference, I scrolled to the bottom to check if you were copypasta-ing us before going back and reading it. We just all live in Crazytown now I guess.

FYI , HERE is the most up to date list (including Turkiye, Israel and some others)

Are they just stupid or have they been paid off?

Neither one. they are in a cult. Donald Trump is entertaining / clickbait / meme leadership. The novelty of having a 78 year old man shit-talk on an Apple iPhone they can’t resist. They have brain damage from it all.

“When a population becomes distracted by trivia, when cultural life is redefined as a perpetual round of entertainments, when serious public conversation becomes a form of baby-talk, when, in short, a people become an audience, and their public business a vaudeville act, then a nation finds itself at risk; culture-death is a clear possibility.” ― Neil Postman, Amusing Ourselves to Death: Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business, 1985 !BackTo1985@lemm.ee

Most headlines I see are going with 10%, which is a big understatement.

It’s because they’re run by billionaires. Even liberal, big outlets harp on cultural issues to redirect focus.

That’s all this was about anyway

And we’ll know exactly which countries bought him off

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He wants to use tariffs (which act like a flat-tax) to lower income tax on the rich. There’s speculation he’s also doing something like the “Mar-a-Lago Accord,” which involves devaluing the dollar (causing inflation). If wages don’t rise with the inflation (which they don’t want), US labor will be more competitive, so people can work in factory jobs with pay analogous to current Chinese factory workers.

A poor America, with no friends in the world suits Vlad Pootang very well. It will be like the world has 2 Russia’s…

Some of the architects who helped win the second American civil war say yes:

Firstly, it is essential to squash the democratic myth that a state ‘belongs’ to the citizenry. The point of neo-cameralism is to buy out the real stakeholders in sovereign power, not to perpetuate sentimental lies about mass enfranchisement. Unless ownership of the state is formally transferred into the hands of its actual rulers, the neo-cameral transition will simply not take place, power will remain in the shadows, and the democratic farce will continue.

So, secondly, the ruling class must be plausibly identified. It should be noted immediately, in contradistinction to Marxist principles of social analysis, that this is not the ‘capitalist bourgeoisie’. Logically, it cannot be. The power of the business class is already clearly formalized, in monetary terms, so the identification of capital with political power is perfectly redundant. It is necessary to ask, rather, who do capitalists pay for political favors, how much these favors are potentially worth, and how the authority to grant them is distributed. This requires, with a minimum of moral irritation, that the entire social landscape of political bribery (‘lobbying’) is exactly mapped, and the administrative, legislative, judicial, media, and academic privileges accessed by such bribes are converted into fungible shares. Insofar as voters are worth bribing, there is no need to entirely exclude them from this calculation, although their portion of sovereignty will be estimated with appropriate derision. The conclusion of this exercise is the mapping of a ruling entity that is the truly dominant instance of the democratic polity. Moldbug calls it the Cathedral.

The formalization of political powers, thirdly, allows for the possibility of effective government. Once the universe of democratic corruption is converted into a (freely transferable) shareholding in gov-corp. the owners of the state can initiate rational corporate governance, beginning with the appointment of a CEO. As with any business, the interests of the state are now precisely formalized as the maximization of long-term shareholder value. There is no longer any need for residents (clients) to take any interest in politics whatsoever. In fact, to do so would be to exhibit semi-criminal proclivities. If gov-corp doesn’t deliver acceptable value for its taxes (sovereign rent), they can notify its customer service function, and if necessary take their custom elsewhere. Gov-corp would concentrate upon running an efficient, attractive, vital, clean, and secure country, of a kind that is able to draw customers. No voice, free exit.

The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

Yup.

He was inside you all along

He missed.

It’s all goods from those countries.

30% seems pretty generous. Nevermind the complete collapse of trade and alliances we built over the past century, won’t countries stop using the us dollar as the backing reserve? Which will likely set america on an even further downward trend, especially since the dollar isn’t on the gold standard anymore?

american juche now!