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Summary
Lawmakers from both parties expressed outrage after The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief revealed he was accidentally included in a Trump administration Signal chat discussing Yemen airstrikes.
Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.) and Rep. Sara Jacobs (D-Calif.) called for investigations and firings, labeling it a serious security breach.
Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.
Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration’s mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.
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And just like that, everyone has stopped talking about hillary clintons emails.
Heads should roll? Maybe, if you ask nicely, the French may share some equipment and experience.
Uh oh, they’re expressing outrage now. I’m sure someone will suffer.
Make it happen Senate. It’s literally your job. So fucking do it
The worst thing is aside from being inept and careless, there is no chance they aren’t selling secrets to anyone willing to pay.
Hegseth is now saying it didn’t actually happen, matching their incompetence with dishonesty, the tone of this “merit based” administration
Living in the imperial core where a chat error is far bigger scandal than a genocide.
well said. I’m surprised at the reaction towards this specific event.
the administration is purging the federal government, rerouting tens of thousands of federal agents to enforce immigration (literally 80% of ATF is now focused on immigration. DEA, FBI, IRS, and more are all being recruited to help with immigration), illegally ignoring court orders, using a Stasi-like group of unmarked federal agents to intimidate with threats of criminal prosecution and force people into compliance (look at what happened at the SS office or the non-profit U.S. Institute of Peace), giving executive orders that are blatantly and explicitly unconstitutional (like the one to end birthright citizenship)
that isn’t even starting to mention the genocide happening in Palestine that is not only being condoned but openly embraced. we are arresting and attempting to deport individuals whose only crime is that they are anti-Israel. permanent residents are being denied entry into the country because they have a photo of a Hezbollah leader on their phone
the administration is using coercion and threats to force over 60 universities (Colombia being the most visible) to change the things they are teach, abandon certain policies, suppress student speech, and dramatically increase police presence. all in the name of fighting “anti-semitism”
it has only been a couple of months and right now Congress is making a stink about a text message
Killing people in the middle east has been a source of income for us since the 1950s, a chat room error can only happen since the 90s, it’s the new interesting thing for the media to gawk at as people are being killed.
How dare you let the proles know we’re bombing people for no good reason?
Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.) criticized the use of non-secure systems, warning that adversaries like Russia and China could exploit it.
The singular problem with Americans doing a holocaust abroad is that another country might find out about it in advance.
I mean, just think for a minute. What if we wanted to bomb a Russian orphanage or a Chinese university? They could take advantage of our data insecurity to thwart us!
Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) condemned the administration’s mishandling of classified information, saying it endangers national security.
We’re carpet bombing people on the other side of the fucking planet. This is so far outside the scope of “national security”.
Absolute Ghoul Nation.
You’re diminishing the term Holocaust by using it for something only remotely comparable.
This specific incident, no. But the point is that if it happens for other issues more important domestically, it would be a national security risk.
You’re diminishing the term Holocaust
The US’s Role in the Hidden Genocide in Yemen
The Arab state of Yemen has been locked in a civil war since 2014—a conflict that escalated significantly in March 2015, when a Saudi-led coalition began air strikes against the Houthi rebels. This coalition has been backed by the US and the UK, despite producing a humanitarian crisis that has left 8.4 million people on the brink of famine.
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Q. You write that “even if the US and UK do not intend for their support to be used in the commission of genocide, it is irrelevant to the question of whether they are complicit in the genocide.” What is the basis for assigning responsibility to a state in this case, if intent is irrelevant?
In the case of Bosnia v. Serbia, the International Court of Justice established that shared intent is only relevant when considering whether a state conspired with another to commit genocide. For complicity, a state only needs to be aware that the aid it is providing to another state facilitates the crime being committed. In other words, if the US and UK shared the Saudi-led coalition’s genocidal intent, the aid they are providing would make them conspirators in the commission of genocide. Without shared intent, they are still complicit in the crime based on their continued material support, which has aided in the commission of genocide.
With Trump’s return, we’ve once again gone beyond simply facilitating Saudi mass killing of Yemeni residents and gone straight into the strategic slaughter of whole neighborhoods and villages.
But the point is that if it happens for other issues more important domestically, it would be a national security risk.
That the American media can only report on the exposure of the systematic mass murder of half the country’s native residents as a risk to the United States illustrates the deep rot within the American psyche.
That the American media can only report on the exposure of the systematic mass murder of half the country’s native residents as a risk to the United States illustrates the deep rot within the American psyche.
No one said that. This isn’t about reporting, this is about information leaks.
If genocide is limited to mass killing by direct violence, some might argue that the term cannot apply to Yemen. Relative to the generally recognized cases of genocide (Armenia, Jewish Holocaust, Rwanda, etc.), a “substantial” number of Yemenis have not been killed by direct violence. However, between ten and twenty thousand people have been killed by direct violence and many tens of thousands more have been killed by deteriorating public health conditions directly related to the Saudi-led coalition’s bombing attacks and naval blockade. Additionally, Yemen’s rich cultural heritage has been deliberately bombed by the coalition. The direct and indirect physical attacks, public health emergencies, and cultural destruction together amount to a synchronized attack on life in Yemen.
It is not a Holocaust type event. An issue and a travesty, yes. But they are fighting literal terrorists as part of it. It’s not exactly the pure black and white the Holocaust was, and I think your own source backs my statement.
I do agree it is horrifying. But I would argue that the saudis are the primary perpetrators, not the states. Unfortunately the actual meat of the article is hidden behind a paywall.
“should” is the key word. Trump should be in prison but he’s not.
I think the important thing here is to not get distracted and focus on what’s really important:
Hillary’s emails.
Buttery
Buttery males?!
Buttered Sausage
Democrats…“Why I oughta…If I only…boy oh boy are you ever…sigh”.
The only person in real danger here is the journalist.
And the yemenis but they’ve got the wrong skin tone for anybody to even mention. Genocide is completely normalized.
SLAMMED
This is surprisingly a middle ground. I’ve been seeing people on the right just as pissed off about this. They have a point too in that there can be two truths here.
He could have leaked information and needs to be held accountable.
The claim that the information leaked as stated can be exaggerated.
Just be careful out there that they don’t rope you into looking like idiots by being over dramatic.
I’m shocked that the administration of “Put the big boxes of top secret docs under the bathroom chandelier” would mishandle secret war plans.
