• Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk
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    My main thought is that this is very reminiscent of the way saints are portrayed in stained glass.

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    Honestly, aside from what Mangione did and whether it can be justified, I just think this shows how America-brained so much of the UK is. The guy lives and committed his crime on the other side of the ocean in a context which does not exist in this country. I would personally prefer for him not to be executed but I don’t understand what anyone’s thinking when they use him as an icon over here.

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      Are you being purposefully obtuse? You could say the exact same thing about Robin Hood.

      It just goes to show how England brained America is. What business does America have making movies and TV shows about a 12th Century English folk hero? America hadn’t even been discovered in the 12th Century, how can you have context in the US for his actions?

      It’s a story about a little guy who broke the law to stand up for the greater good while risking his own life to do so. That kind of heroism is borderless. Luigi Mangione may have killed one person but the person he killed was responsible for the death and chronic pain of thousands. I think we English understand that very well indeed.

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        Fictional characters and real people are not actually the same kind of thing, and how people read them are not equivalent.

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      I don’t understand what anyone’s thinking when they use him as an icon over here.

      We are also governed by billionaires who own our press and control our politicians. It doesn’t matter that Mangione did what he did three and a half thousand miles away, what matters is that he is a symbol for the ultimate sanction the people can have against a billionaire class who are otherwise unaccountable and untouchable.

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      I’m sure there are greedy shenanigans that happen without consequence in the UK, too.

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    Internet jokes aside, it seems pretty weak to be venerating killers like this.

    I’ll accept your down votes with grace.

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      13 hours ago

      Well he is suspected of murder, we don’t technically know if he did. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

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        Innocent until proven guilty and all that.

        I thought that only applied to conservatives who have been accused of sexual harassment.

        Being serious though, I agree with @mannycalavera@feddit.uk that killers probably shouldn’t be venerated, but it’s definitely interesting that the Luigi case has inspired a lot of discussion, so I wondered what Lemmy users might think about this mural.

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      Not allowed to down vote. You wrote hurty words. That’s violence. Literal violence.

      Don’t you just love Woke.

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      It’s definitely sad and unfortunate that someone had to die, but I heard they were using unethical means to exploit vulnerable people and cause the deaths of many others.

      If the police weren’t going to do anything about the CEO, then sadly, it’s ultimately necessary for a vigilante to step up.

      It’s why you need a fair legal system.

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        It’s why you need a fair legal system.

        This.

        If the police weren’t going to do anything about the CEO, then sadly, it’s ultimately necessary for a vigilante to step up.

        But not this.

        If someone (a CEO, a powerful business man, a politician, whatever) is doing something so egregiously wrong then club together to raise awareness, take legal action, shame them in the press, set up you own alternatives. Going straight to murder is not the answer.

        Yet it scares me that so many people think it is 😢😬.

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      People supporting something you don’t agree with doesn’t mean they’re doing it for popularity points, just the same as you supporting something that I don’t, wouldn’t have me saying you’re doing it for points.

      Shocking but people have beliefs, whether right or wrong.

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          I don’t know if it’s effective, it’s too early, the trial hasn’t even begun. What I do know is artists make statements whether I agree with them or not.

          It doesn’t exist in this country yet. Don’t forget we’ve had over a decade of Tory cuts and particularly to the NHS, they’ve privatised more and more parts of it so it doesn’t seem to unrealistic that with our special relationship we will end up in a similar place.

          Look at dentists. Woefully underfunded and so many dentists move to private practice making finding an NHS dentist an insurmountable task for many people.

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    If he wasn’t so good looking, nobody would care about him. The fact is, he took another life in cold-blood. He had a manifesto and a gun in his backpack. He’s not a hero and hasn’t accomplished anything through his violence.

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      What? I don’t typically find males attractive and I was supportive of this man’s actions way before I knew what he looked like.

      Also, isn’t it a bit too soon to say he hasn’t accomplished anything through his violence. I mean at the very least he’s sparked a massive discourse about how Americans have a fucked up health industry. This is all while the media pretends he doesn’t exist anymore because they realised that sympathy for Brian Thompson was… lacking to say the least.

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      Also whomever perpetrated the assassination was a hero long before we knew what Luigi looked like

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      All of which was handled improperly by the police. The arrest the evidence all of it fruit of the poisonous tree. It’s gonna be a mistrial.