This is misleading.
According to those stats, the majority of people voted for someone other than Harris as well.
The real takeaway here is large percentage of people that don’t vote.
American democracy and freedom are fucked. But I don’t blame those 36% of non-voters. These people were INSPIRED to give up on politics.
It’s the media environment. Political coverage fucking sucks by design. Left populism is too interesting to be given air time, too much of a threat to the people who fund the parties and own the media. Politics used to be interesting. Politicians used to say things, now they just run out the clock with white noise.
I mean no
In an election between Bush and Kerry (the guy who lost 2004 election) or something like that then yes. People can be annoyed or just too busy to vote.
This election was perfectly clear that the future of US democracy was at stake and more than 1/3 of the voters decided to not show up. They decided that they were fine not choosing and as such fine with either option. I mean even if the choice was between Trump and a dog, the dog should have won by a landslide. 4 years of nothing would have been miles better than the decades that US is going back.
This presidency is already catastrophic and it barely even started.
I don’t even know how the US and the world can handle 4 years of this shit at this pace.
What makes you think this was clear to people? Most people simply do not pay attention to politics, even the voters who ignorantly cast votes for whatever their tribe is.
even my grandma was aware that there was a lunatic in the White House who encouraged domestic terrorism and we live across the Atlantic and she doesn’t even speak English
This isn’t on the level of which economic policy is the best for long term sustainable growth. This is just recognizing that Trump is an incompetent piece of shit that will admit to scamming whoever he can (and admit it) and literally anyone else and that if Trump won the US is fucked
In conclusion 68% let Trump win or directly voted for him.
68.1% of US citizens are bloody idiots.
This is why we need ranked choice voting
Well, in 1933 when the NSPD came to power they had 43% of the seats in parliament (I haven’t found the percentage of the total votes but I imagine it was much less). That did not prevent them from repeating the elections at the end of that year and getting more than 90%, you can imagine how.
Even a part of popular culture accepts that they came to power by winning elections and the German people feel and felt the shame that they came to power by democratic means, which is only half true.
I feel sorry for the American people, but they elected this team under the same rules of democracy as their previous presidents. To claim now that his election was not democratic is to distort the facts.
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Also 6 million suppressed votes say: Kamala won!
cite?
Stop this bs. Rules are set before the game begins.
Both times Trump won was when a woman was running against him. The only time he lost was to a white old man.
USA is just sexist and Americans better come to terms with it rather than making up random reasons.
While your logic does have a point, and there’s no shortage of sexists out there, I must also state that both Clinton and Harris were horrid candidates as well, and both followed a democrat president the people were starting to/were done with.
Not only that, but both times Trump preyed on what the people were desperate to hear: “Better living conditions, lower prices” and all that. This was mainly the illusion of choice between two evils, and they chose the one that seemed to be the lesser one. The one who appeared to be “more honest” and despite being a nepo-baby called out and criticized all other rich people.
The issue is the system itself, and the fact that voters choose their candidates like celebrities or their sports team. See Harris making her campaign way more about celebrity endorsement than commiting to actual societal issues. She was never gonna win like that, and even if she did, she would still be a bad president. Not worse for sure, now that we all are seeing current Trump starting all sorts of conflicts and trying to become a dictator, but still a bad president.
The US can elect a female president. But so far the options picked for that were absolutely horrid, and I know there’s several good and competent female leaders who are both democrats and republicans. Sadly they have too much common sense or lean too much to the centre to be taken seriously by the ones who want to create a spectacle.
Hillary was an excellent candidate who was eminently qualified
Between her and Harris she’s 10x less bad, I’ll give you that. Other than that, agree to disagree. 🤷♂️
Correlation is not causation. We elected Obama who was one of the youngest presidents in US history first term. Also he was Black. I’m not saying the country is sexist, but I am saying both the female candidates that made it the general election, ran on dog shit platforms of “more of the same”
Maybe the women weren’t qualified? Clinton ran thinking her name would be enough. Kamala ran because she/they thought anyone except Joe could win. 36% who didn’t vote are the true cowards in all this mess. Now a majority of Americans will suffer for 4 years because of lazy-asses who thought that not showing up to vote was a protest move. WRONG!
You can disagree with her politics but to call Clinton unqualified is actually absurd
Basically if Tim Walz was the presidential candidate he probably would have won.
This! Kamala is a black woman. She was never going to win. When asked if they would rather win or be right, they chose being right. They live on denial on how sexist and racist their country is.
there wasn’t really a primary system or anything to address this
Dems aren’t going to nominate anybody without a long record of violence.
People forget that black men, many of whom were born slaves, got the right to vote before women.
Tbf, we haven’t had a good candidate from either party since Obama.
“my vote won’t change anything”, “i don’t like any of them”, “that won’t affect me”, call leopards for those 36%
This is true of every election except maybe one.
Nobody always wins. The “winner” is always elected by a tiny minority. It’s a fundamentally corrupt system. Always has been. Literally concocted by genocidal slavers.
I need to mention that the reason why 20 million fewer voters voted is. Because of the massive voter suppression that was done prior to the 2024 election. So many people were purged from voters rolls and many polling places were closed it wasn’t funny.
While I’m sure that was part of it, a lot of people didn’t vote for other reasons as well. Someone I know who you would probably consider “left” didn’t vote at all because of Harris supporting Israel (I’m aware trump is worse for Palestinians), and I know a bunch of other people I’ve spoken to online also didn’t vote at all for the same reason.
Plus I suspect a lot of other previous Biden voters didn’t vote at all for similar reasons, like possibly all party’s are owned by the rich.
Bottom line, a class war is needed to get the rich in check.
Unfortunately, if they didn’t vote, they have no right to complain when shit blows up in their face. I don’t feel represented by basically any candidate in my home country, Canada, or where I live, the UK. I still participate and vote for the person closest to what I’d like to see. If you don’t participate, you don’t get to bitch.
this is harder to say when you look at how Americans in the urban parts of the South had to wait upwards of 6 hours in line to vote, amidst intimidation by armed militias and often facing dismissal from their workplaces if they weren’t at work on time that day
Look, it’s different if you tried to vote and weren’t able to. If you literally made no effort, then stfu. I should have been a bit more clear on that.
There’s a lot that needs to be done to make the American system better, electoral college, gerrymandering, blatant voter intimidation, better worker’s rights that include the right to have leave to vote.
none of that will be done because the party currently in power is only in power because of the failing system. if we revolt we should just start from a better base system
shrugs I agree, just gotta wait and see how things pan out. Hope that America gets their shit together.
Congrats USA, you just signed the death of my two cultures: First Nations and French Canadian. Your dictator will crush us like he does with every minorities and his maga army are already enjoying it. I hope you enjoy the new world, owned by and at the service of the 1% and the privilege-ass white boys.
Not a mandate, but voter’s apathetic acceptance.
pfff… he won twice. if americans would want a real democracy that wouldnt have happened.
Yeah. American here. It’s generally the case that the president gets votes from a minority of the population. Nothing new there. Unfortunately those of us who live here can see that the support for this monster is very real.
It turns out politics is very complex and difficult to manage.
