• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    Theres only so many places with concentrations of tibetan buddhists. it wont be India, china, or tibet. That leaves Mongolia or Russia.

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      My insane prediction:

      The next Dalai Lama will be born to the one random Tibetan Buddhist family living in a small town in rural Alabama.

      Of course, is I was the Lama, I would throw a curve ball and come back as transgender Nigerian woman, just to mix things up.

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        What would be really cool, was if the kid didn’t belong to a Tibetan buddhist family. It was just some random kid in rural Alabama. Think about it: “We have found the 15th Dalai Lama! It’s a boy called Billybob Jackson”

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        If you ascribe to the idea that the Dalaï Llama is/was a cia operative, and a sort of bridge/conduit between the interests of East and West, this sets up quite the “lottery” for where power may shift.

        Because his followers are quite far and wide, not just of “race” (and I use that very loosely), it creates a very powerful base that will follow a sort of leader.

        Interesting timing, especially since his long time friend the Aga Khan just passed away.

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    Planning on international child trafficking this time? Quite progressive abduction policy. Fucking Catholic Buddhist child abusers. How is it they get a pass? “Oh that whole tongue sucking thing was just a joke!” SMDH

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      At the rate things are going, the kid’s gonna need to be born off-planet.

      He’s actually making a political statement, imho, though. He’s attempting to prevent China’s inevitable attempt to replace him with one of their own.

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        China already took custody of the young Panchen Lama, who plays an integral part in identifying the reincarnated Dalai Lama.

        I’d say their attempt to replace him is more than inevitable – it’s already underway.

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        Ironically musk starting a servitude-built Mars colony and then the next religious leader that can just exist in a vacuum without dying or breathing is born there or something, is basically where I’m putting my faith in this timeline I live in; because it appears logic and human compassion were cool ideas when more people were using psychedelic drugs.

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          whats racist about making fun of someone who asked a child to suck their tongue? are you defending that?

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            Seemed like cognitive decline to me when he did that. My grandma started making rape allegations near her end and saying absolutely unhinged sexual nonsense.

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              I tend to agree. The man has worked all his live to bring Buddhism closer to the West and this was the single worst thing he did and, very likley, be the one thing that people will remember first.

              After years and years of build relationships and beeing seen as a wildes positive figure. Bit of a shame, what he has to say is valid and important, at least in my opinion. But alas, this was a fucking Desaster for him. And I very much don’t think he’s a pedophile. But in this day and age, with all this hyper sexualisierted westerners, with its complete lack of nuance and social media, it was the worst thing he could have done. China will have done everything to amplify the message to, which for sure doesn’t help.

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                The man has worked all his live to bring Buddhism closer to the West

                The man is a CIA stooge who hasn’t done anything productive in his life. He’s the closest you could get to an exiled Marie Antoinette crying about the rights of French people being oppressed after they kicked her out. He wants to bring back feudalism and essentially slavery to Tibet because he would be part of the few nobles reaping all the benefits.

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            What you are doing here is using the western culture as a benchmark to judge the culture of another region. Not everything is seen trough a sexual lens, that’s just your western mindset doing that.

            You can read about it here, for example.

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              So its a common greeting but the tongue sucking was teasing? I hate to see the other ways he teases kids.

              Seriously though, I dont think its racism. Maybe its part of the culture and he’s honest saying there’s no sexual intention but also I think pedophiles have a history of saying this isn’t what it looks like when called out.

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                But he didn’t say that. Others have defended him, yes.

                The Dalai Lama hinself apologised for the joke and acknowledged that it must have sounded strange for a western audience.

                The mother of the boy was sitting in true audience and she wasn’t offended by it at all. She defended the Dalai Lama. That in of itself doesn’t mean anything, I have to admit. If you’re in a cult you tend to close your eyes to abuse. But take a closer look at the whole situation:

                Of course, it could be possible that the person whon spent his live reaching out to the West, preaching about love and kindness, decided to make a very puplic statement about his pedophile nature while beeing on a stage surrounded by cameras. Or it was an interaction between two people of a different culture whom had an exchange that, admittedly, sounds strange to Western ears.

                I know what I think is more likley here. Especially because there was nothing else after this. Usually, once a public person is called out for abusive behaviour, there will be some victims who are encouraged to break their silence. In this case? Nothing. Doesn’t that make you question your assumption of him beeing a pedo at least a bit?

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                  Oblivious/unaware people can defend pedos.

                  Glad he apologized cos it was strange.

                  Yes, youre right. Her defending him means nothing here.

                  Plenty of examples in the past of pedos being pedos while cameras role.

                  Yes victims are encouraged to come forward but there’s no obligation. Maybe the victims are still very young or maybe they’re adults or maybe they dont exist, we dont know.

                  I won’t make an accusation without knowing more but I hope people who have the power to investigate do it.

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      Yeah they disappeared him and his family when he was just 6 years old, then announced a loyalist the new Panchen Llama. That was 30 years ago.

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    Hm, I think he failed his magic spell and we got DALL-E and Llama instead.

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      I assume you don’t believe in Buddhism, but if you do it makes sense. The Dalai Lama is the reincarnation of an enlightened being. Its like if jesus would have come back all the time instead of just once for a few days. (It’s not exactly like that and I’m not Buddhist)

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      The stuff he tells to the world is very different from what he tells his own followers. Let’s not forget that he comes from a very long tradition of repressive theocracy.

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        Show me one example, please. In my experience the message for his followers is absolutely the same. He speakes about Buddha, about kindness and wisdom and how to apply the Buddhas words in the modern world.

        I have seen quite a few events now that he has held for Tibtain monks and nuns and that were provided with English subtitles. I see no different message there, than he has for his western audiences. Of course, there is a difference in how he speaks about things, but not what he is saying.

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        Worse then raping children and a “god given” mandate to colonize and exploit the world? Just saying that most religions are like this

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            Worse than systematic rape within the Catholic church? No offence but I remember this situation and is this all you have? I follow the law of atleast three instances before thinking about patterns (unless the previous 2 are atrocious) this wasn’t atrocious, this is silly and weird but also this is fucking Tibet not london. White ignorant ass making wild assumptions over seemingly minor stuff

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              You sure this is the hill you want to die on? Defending a religious leader who has already admitted to pedophilic behavior?

              Why do you think I’m defending other religions?

              And no, it’s not minor, and it’s kind of telling that you’re wiling to ignore it so easily. Would it be minor if it was your child? It’s absolutely atrocious, and unacceptable no matter where you reside on the planet.

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                You sure this is the hill you want to die on? Defending a religious leader who has already admitted to pedophilic behavior?

                Buddy it seems like between the two of us. You’re the one out of sources. You’re really digging into this one thing. Is that all you have and yet have the gall to talk about a hill to die on?

                I’m not defending the dali liama, but i am saying you lack any Nuance or any knowledge on the topic and this conversation is proof of that.

                Would it be minor if it was your child? It’s absolutely atrocious, and unacceptable no matter where you reside on the planet.

                Not everybody on earth acts like a European/American. Believe it or not, not every culture Is as sex obsessed. You can be hugged and kissed by people you share absolutely no blood to in many Asian cultures (coming from an Asian) and the nuances are long and varied, longer than I can be bothered to write but it you had any willingness to learn, you would and could, but that’s asking too much.

                So I ask again, you say pedophilic behaviour, a pedo is someone who is sexually attracted to kids. I’ll ask again, did the Dali liama fuck a child or say publically he wants to fuck children? Even on Lemmy it seems critical debate is a dying breed

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                  The dude sucked a child’s tongue. It’s fucking disgusting that you’re defending that. There is no nuance there, sorry.

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      The religions where you chill on a stone all your life and meditate are basically the only ok religions.

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        Nothing wrong with meditating on a stone all your life, but where does a monk’s meal come from? Who grows the food? Who weaves the cloth? If it were all just charity, that would be one thing…

        Before China, Tibet was a feudal society, with the monastery at the top of the hierarchy. They wielded power; religious, political, and physical. The punishment for disobeying a monk was to have your hands cut off. And this wasn’t just some ancient state of affairs, it was happening in the 20th century.