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    Is it normal for people to regret what they said on here? Because I tend not to change my mind from downvotes and dumb responses. I do block people though

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      My only regrets are having to read stupid responses that completely missed the point of what I said because they want to argue with what they think I said.

      Occasionally I learn something new from responses, which changes my perspective.

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        I agree - A lot of people seem so prepared for someone to disagree with them that they seem to misfire on people they agree with. I try to avoid this by starting my comments with “I agree” 😊 … though even then some people still get confused 🫠

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          What are you talking about? You’re way off base, and completely unreasonable. It’s so typical of you people that I have a generalized baseless belief of. What about this other person that has nothing to do with this? Do you agree with them, too? I bet you also hate soldiers defending our country, and probably kittens too.

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        the best is when the response is about the first or last sentence of what I wrote and their response is addressed in the rest of it.

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        What a stupid comment, if you actually took the time to read and understood your replies then maybe you’d actually learn something from them, rather than just disregarding everyone who responds to you.

        /s

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      Downvotes sometimes make me want to clarify what I wrote on the assumption that it got misinterpreted.

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        Has that ever worked for you?

        I do it a lot and can’t think of a single time it worked.

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          I’ve seen a number of comments with a visible edit that have an even split between down and up votes. I can only assume the edit worked. Not like votes mean anything on Lemmy. It’s kinda nice not having the overall “karma” visible at all times.

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          Looking through some of my controversial comments, it seems like it worked maybe 1/3 - 1/2 of the time?

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      I mean well, and I want to have hope for the future, but I’m depressed and have untreated ADHD and a desperate need for therapy, and I do worry that I’m letting all that influence how I talk to strangers online.

      I’m probably too harsh sometimes, or not harsh enough, or dumb, or stupid, etc, more often than I’d like.

      So yeah, I generally regret or worry over everything I say to everyone at some point or another. I suck xD But I’m too lonely to switch off and not talk to anyone entirely, so here we are.

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      I don’t want to deal with arguing especially since half the responses clearly only read the first sentence of my comment. I don’t have the energy for it. So I’m on an instance with downvotes disabled and rarely check my inbox.

      If people like my contribution they can upvote, if they don’t like it they can downvote or argue back, but I don’t have the energy to give to that, so I probably won’t see it.

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      My own experience with this was posting a shower thoughts thread while quite inebriated, forgetting I’d done it then waking up with a fairly full inbox so nothing controversial or argumentative.

      • My experience is that I reply to a lot of things, and post very few, and in no case do I have even a vague notion about how many comments what I write will generate. I can guess the vector magnitude of up/down votes, but never the amount of interaction, where people take time to reply.

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      I I do actually second thought what I said. As I can be as wrong as any. And if I’m wrong I’m ought to change my mind.

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      Absolutely, it is only human to make mistakes. Of course there are time where someone gives a stupid reply but there are also times where that is not the case. If it were the assumption would be that I am right about everything, which is asinine

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    My first thought is always “Must be Nicole the Fediverse chick again” 😂

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    A bunch are usually people disagreeing and making up situations to make themselves right… i.e., you posit that the sky appeared blue when you went outside today, the replies are: not if it’s night, not during cloudy days, etc. and at least one that sounds like they disagree but are reiterating what you just said.

    • I’ve made this observation before, but the funniest thing about Lemmy is that !ShowerThoughts posts elicit more controversy than !UnpopularOpinion. Like, someone posts “I love pineapple on pizza” in !ShowerThoughts, and it’s downvoted to hell with people writing long essays about how pineapple on pizza is justification for bringing back shock treatment. The same thing posted to !UnpopularOpinion brings out a mob of people saying how not unpopular an opinion that is, quoting statistics about how Hawaiian Pizza is the most popular pizza in America. It’s absolutely hilarious, and one of the few areas where the Lemmy community is truly contrarian just for contrarian’s sake.

      With the exception of populations of some instances which I won’t hex by bearishly naming, and a few individually excessive dicks (or trolls, but I think most are really just assholes), the Lemmy community tends to argue in good faith, admit when they’re wrong or have had their minds changed, and are generally polite netizens in most exchanges. But !ShowerThoughts and !UnpopularOpinion just being out the contrarian in people, for some reason.

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        Unpopular opinion is just posting things that plenty of people actually agree with. Like pineapple pizza. An actual unpopular opinion would be something like agreeing with restricting abortion or something difficult that elicits very strong feelings.

        • But do we really believe the posters think what they’re posting is a popular opinion? Maybe they really think it’s unpopular, because of their IRL experiences, or what they see online.

          I think it’s because people know what’s unpopular, but the heavy stuff, they don’t want to be associated with. So they choose milquetoast unpopular opinions, which aren’t really unpopular as much as maybe a minority. Like, a majority of voters voted for Trump, but thinking Kamala would have been better isn’t unpopular, it was just the minority opinion among people who got their fat assess out and voted.

          Now, saying “only white, biologically born males should be allowed to vote” would be a truly unpopular opinion, but although there are absolutely more than zero people on Lemmy who believe this, no way in hell they’re going to post that.

          So people stay with “safe” unpopular opinions, like… “NYC is the ugliest city I’ve ever seen.” Sure, you’ll learn some new insults from the responses, but nobody’s going to troll through your post history and throw it in your face in every argument, or follow you around and downvote everything you post because of it. Ok, maybe some New Yorkers will do the latter, but you know what I mean.

          Consequently, because they’re just minority and not truly unpopular, all of the people who agree come out of the woodwork, incensed that this entirely reasonable opinion would be posted a being “unpopular.”

          Thank you for coming to my Ted-L talk.

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            I think it’s because people know what’s unpopular, but the heavy stuff, they don’t want to be associated with. So they choose milquetoast unpopular opinions, which aren’t really unpopular as much as maybe a minority.

            That’s pretty much it as far as the /comm goes.

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    If your in for a wild ride, you can post something like “Steam sucks”, or ask anything about “Hexbear”. If you just want positive attention, go with “What’s the best distro for…?”

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        Looks like we have a noob that wouldn’t survive 10 minutes in a kitchen lobby here. Everyone knows that cooking with steam preserves nutrients, enhances flavor, and retains the natural texture of food.

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          Seriously. This punk thinks he can have any form of serious power without steam. What a chump

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              I didn’t say there weren’t some forms of generation that didn’t involve steam. I’m just saying those pathetic puny sources will never amount to the energy produced by generating steam. The sun won’t always shine, and the wind won’t always blow. And there’s only so many places you can capture flowing water. And even the most effective forms of solar use solar thermal to make steam. We just have to admit that steam is the GOAT

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                They discovered a new power source!
                Does it involve creating steam and generating power from that?
                Well, huh, never mind.

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      If you just want positive attention, go with “What’s the best distro for…?”

      Clearly the best distro is Windows 10!

    • You’re asking the wrong person. Due either to my client, or my instance, I get, like, a 20% success rate on attaching images. Most of the time I get an error.

      On my client, there’s a little picture icon. When I click that, it lets me select a picture and, if the wind is blowing in the right direction and the stars align, the picture is embedded. Otherwise, I upload to catbox.moe and manually embed the URL. The markdown syntax for an embedded image is:

      ![](https://url.ofyour.pic/thing.jpg)
      
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      If you’re using voyager you can just copy and paste and it will handle it, usually, assuming your instance has image uploads enabled.

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          I know mlem just got a new update, so I can’t comment on that BUT I can say that always come back to voyager.

          It’s as close to the Apollo Reddit client as there is (as far as I’m aware)

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            I’ve been playing around with the different options, Mlem isn’t bad. Voyager’s interface was a little all over the place for me.

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    Look at all these replies! I can’t wait to tell all these internet randos how wrong they are!

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    This is my primary use of reddit.

    Late night shitposting, i instantly forget, and seeing lots of interesting comments in the morning.

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    Usually its when I either offend the libs on world or the fake leftists on ml/hexbear. Sometimes if I’m particularly skilled I piss off both of them at the exact same time (usually by advocating for true liberation for the working class not under a so called “vanguard” but by and for the workers themselves)

    • Thing is, it’s easy to offend people. It doesn’t take skill, or effort. And it’s not constructive; nobody in history has ever said, “you know, your comment about Communists all being retarded really changed my mind. I’m going to read Atlas Shrugged and become a capitalist!”

      Usually when I say stuff that pisses people off, it’s because (a) a joke fell flat, or was not obviously a joke; (b) I was reacting emotionally and said something I intended to be hurtful; © I express an unpopular opinion. As I get older, the reactions to © more often make me scrutinize my opinion, to make sure I’m not just stupidly parroting something my fascist dad taught me when I was a child.

      I used to play devil’s advocate, but it doesn’t feel good. It’s one thing if both parties go into it in good faith, and it’s clear neither is just trying to be a troll, but now? I don’t do it without establishing good faith first, and if I suspect someone’s just trolling… I just block them. Straight up. It’s easy, and I have one fewer irritants in my life.

      So, that’s me. Why do _you_do it? Are you intentionally trying to rile people up, and if so, why? Are you angry at them? Or do you say you’re offending people just by expressing sincerely held opinions, and the snowflakes are getting triggered? Is everyone but you a hypocrite?

      I mean, I believe everyone is a hypocrite, but there’s a spectrum, right? There’s a level where you are trying not to be a hypocrite, but it’s impossible to exist and not be at some level. Then there’s blatantly lying, saying one thing and doing another. A spectrum, and a lot of it boils down to good faith, and sincerity. Are you angry at faux liberals who you feel should be violently agitating for seizing the means of production, and are calling them out in their bullshit? Or just trying to make them angry so you can hurt them, just a little?

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        I’m an Anarcho-Syndicalist, I offend ml and hexbear users sometimes just by pointing out that China is a fascist dictatorship. I offend world users by telling the truth some aren’t ready to hear. These truths include the simple facts that you cannot reform capitalism out of existence, liberal democracy is democracy for the capitalists, a bloodless revolution is not possible, and compromise with fascism only brings fascism. Sometimes I offend people by being unapologetically Queer, sometimes by being unapologetically Anarchist, but I have learned that apologizing for my beliefs is utterly nonsensical.

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      There will always be a vanguard, whether it’s formalized into an entity that can be structured democratically and transparently or whether it’s left unformalized and therefore subject to cliques, natural power imbalances, and a lack of accountability. The reason for this is that humans vary quite widely in political education and skill, those with more experience with organizing and those with no experience already form a natural hierarchy, and without formalizing this structure you run into danger. That doesn’t mean the Vanguard isn’t of the working class, rather, it just means that the Working Class as a whole is the real driver, and the Vanguard is the pointer, spear body and spearhead.

      The essay The Tyranny of Structurelessness does a good job of explaining the necessity of formalizing structures in order to keep them truly accountable.

      I don’t really know what you’re trying to say by saying Lemmy.ml and Hexbear are “fake Leftists,” are you just trying to say Marxists are fake Leftists?

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        I was saying that people who unironically support China arent actually leftist

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          Why not? It’s a Socialist country if we consider Marxism to be validly Socialist. It’s certainly not Anarchist, but I don’t think Anarchism is the only validly “left” category of tendencies.

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            A “socialist” country with billionaires and wealth inequality? With capitalism and imperialism? That sounds like fascism to me

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              Socialism in the Marxian sense is an economy where public ownership is the principle and driving aspect of the economy, in China this is very much the case, where the vast majority of large firms and core industries are in the Public Sector. There is wealth inequality, and there are billionaires, yes, but this is an aspect that is improving over time, a process that we can track. Socialism is always a long and drawn-out process that can only truly be advanced by building up the productive forces dramatically.

              I don’t know what you mean when you say China has “Capitalism.” Capitalism and Socialism are descriptors for the broader economy as a whole, not individual portions of an economy. There is private ownership of Capital and markets, correct, but this alone does not equal Capitalism, just like a worker cooperative in the US is not an example of Socialism. If you’re interested in a Marxist perspective, I wrote a post going over how Marxists identify a system as Socialist vs Capitalist, and frequent errors made by non-Marxists (in the eyes of Marxists).

              As for Imperialism, I would like you to elaborate.

              As for fascism, that’s certainly not the case. Even if China was Capitalist, that does not inherently make it fascist, which is a specific form of Capitalism. I highly recommend you read Blackshirts and Reds if you haven’t already.

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                By imperialism I am referring to Chinese neocolonialism in Africa. As for Fascism I am referring to the Chinese system of private owmership mixed with indirect government ownership (of which the workers own none of it). In addition the vast majority of the Chinese economy is private, that makes it mixed economy at best.

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                  China’s involvement in Africa isn’t neocolonial, though. Moreover, the vast majority of large firms and key industries are publicly owned, the private sector largely accounts for small businesses, which have little to no control over the economy at large. I don’t know what you are referring to as “worker ownership” if public ownership doesn’t count, that’s the core thesis of Marxism, ie reaching a fully publicly owned economy.

                  I recommend checking out the post I made and the book I linked. The very notion of a “mixed economy” is wrong to begin with, as no economy is pure, modes of productions are determined by their overall totality. Either every economy is mixed, which fails to account for the dramatic differences between feudalism, Capitalism, Socialism, etc, or we adopt a more sensible notion that economies are made up of their constituent, interlinked aspects and thus portions cannot be simply cut away and considered “socialist” or “capitalist,” they all exist in context. That would be like saying a board of directors is Socialist if they all have equal ownership, you can’t cut them away from the workers just like you can’t cut sectors out of the broader economy in which they function.

                  As for fascism, that isn’t an accurate description of fascism at all. Fascism has always served the bourgeoisie as a means to put down leftist organizing in decaying Capitalist countries. You don’t have to support China to be a Leftist, there’s lots of valid critique, but calling it “fascist” is wrong.

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    Most of the time I know exactly what I’m getting if I see more than maybe 3+ comments. Usually it’s me saying something anti-communist, something on brand enough for me.