Plastic shopping bag: lasts 1000 years stuck in a bush outside a Tesco without breaking down
Carefully engineered storage medium stored in ambient temperature indoors in a case:
CRUMBLING
There are so many high quality rips out there. Bothering to rip these yourself makes not much sense, unless its very obscure stuff.
It’s the letter of the law: media shifting is legal in some places where downloading a copy from an unofficial site is not. Also, there are people out there who would not have the first idea where to look for an existing rip.
And a mix of available copies/qualities are better.
I don’t know the situation in all of the countries, but the ones I know that allow you to make a copy of what you purchased also require that in making a copy you are not allowed to break any DRM. I don’t think there are many media being sold that do not include some kind of DRM these days.
Edit: agree that people may not know how to pirate stuff but ripping something in decent enough quality also requires quite specialist knowledge.
…unless its very obscure stuff.
That’s primarily why you’d be ripping stuff. There is so much stuff only available on VHS and DVD.
Most rips tend to apply some compression. Ripping them yourself will generally give you a better result unless you also intend to compress them.
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What about Linux? I’m a recent conver that was used to makemkv
Makemkv supports linux, works great on linux to. https://forum.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224
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Handbrake works.
I thought I needed makemkv to put it in handbrake. Have I been doing it wrong?
I’m on Debian. I just apt install handbrake and it worked. If it was a dependency, it was automatically installed.
Handbrake can handle DVDs directly; you’ll need Make MKV for Blu-Rays.
I’m a fan of ARM. https://github.com/automatic-ripping-machine/automatic-ripping-machine
I run it in a podman container, passing my BluRay drive though. It rips automatically, and attempts to even lookup the metadata for the disk to file it properly. It’s not perfect, but it does work quite well. The only issue I have with it is it does a poor job on TV shows, but I’ve found nothing better, so it is good enough for me.
I’m old enough to remember people lying that compact discs were practically indestructible.
I think the early rounds of those trying to get people to switch to the format were motivated by the fact that tapes were easily recordable by everyone.
Prime motivation was getting the clients to buy their whole collection a second time.
I have Audio-CDs from the 80s that are still playing 40 years later. And I have CDs with deep scratches that also play without problems.
Disk rot usually happens when air gets in contact with the reflective coating and oxidises it. With CD’s, it’s actually the top side you need to be worried about, as it’s right there under a thin lacquer coating. Any ding to that can expose the layer or just literally chip off a chunk of data.
At least on DVD’s it’s sandwiched inside the disk, so usually the only reason is a manufacturing error, and not really something the user can cause.
And I have PDO pressings of Faith No More albums that are almost 40 years old and have just started to rot. Common occurrence with PDO pressings apparently; one manufacturing error is all it takes.
Well, compared to vinyls, they’re a lot more durable. Vinyls degrade by each play a lot more than CDs.
Disc-rot. -It happens but it’s not as common as its made out to be. In my collection it’s only occured in 2 out of 500+ discs.
apparently xbox 360 discs were particularly susceptible.
A couple years ago I made a big project to rip all my DVDs.
Out of several hundred movies only 6 were unplayable. There didn’t seem to be a pattern to it either; age of the disc, wear or handling, big budget then current release or old movie slapped onto a disc in one of those cheap cardboard sleeves.
Out of my collection of TV shows on DVD, easily a quarter of the discs failed, and if one disc in a season of a show didn’t work most of them probably wouldn’t. Many had visible blotch marks in them. I figure they probably used a cheaper manufacturing process for TV shows where they were selling 3 to 6 discs rather than one, maybe two discs with a single movie on it.
What is the goto software/suite for ripping DVDs these days? It has been ages since I’ve done any.
MakeMKV is what I’ve been using as of late. Don’t know if it’s the go to but gets the job done in a nice, one file format.
Are you planning on re-encoding anyways? For DVDs Handbrake can read and re-encode them directly so there’s no need for an intermediate.
If you’re not planning on re-encoding or we’re talking BluRays then makemkv is the most used and allows creating disc images, file extraction to drive, or file extraction to drive in MKV container.
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One of my first jobs in IT I worked in a local newspaper - I thought I wanted to be a journalist turns out it’s boring. Anyway we had all the old archived papers on a dvd and someone used it as a coaster and erased about 10 years worth of files. Naturally there were zero backups, so that data was just gone. Fantastic.
Fortunately the local library has backups but they’re on microfiche, so not particularly convenient. I think Google might have scanned them now though so they’re probably archived again.
Google made thier cached pages inaccessible though, better to check the way back machine.
No I mean the Google books thing. You can search through anything even old catalogs (God knows why they felt the need to scan old catalogs)
God knows why they felt the need to scan old catalogs
For the AI training data probably 😅
Also they started doing it way back in 2005, when they were just doing whatever thier engineers thought would be useful and ensure they kept market share of search. (before Prabhakar Raghavan took over)
Back them up while you can.
This happened to about five of my 360 games. I was so disappointed when I set it up after YEARS and went to play old favorites and the discs were rotted…
This is one of my motivations for dumping my games and modding my consoles. Pull out Wii sports and it doesn’t work? No problems I’ll run it off usb.
Damn, I still have a collection of old 360 titles. I’m scared to open their cases.
Same.
Yo ho, to the seas we go!!
Need to buy that 5th copy of the same media.
“Optical Media Bad”
Beer good!
This is also a big problem for police, courts and public archives who have lots of interview records on DVDs.
The dream of DivX is alive at Warner Brothers
I suppose you guys have never seen LaserDiscs before. Disc rot is nothing new.
