• JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee
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    Actual guess after hearing that they’re found with money. Used it to check size of coins for valuation? Sort of like how some coin counters with?

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    Archeologists after looking at literally anything: Looks like a calendar. Or maybe a religious object. Or maybe a calendar of religions significance.

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    Obviously it’s a key that needs to be inserted into an ancient titan robot to power it back up.

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      What an utterly ridiculous notion. Obviously it’s a magical battery that, once charged, can be inserted into an ancient titan robot to power it back up.

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        Ehh idk about this take. I agree with the article that there are some commercial historical mediums like the History Channel that interpret the past in an absurd/almost malicious way. However modern archaeology does a really good job of finding out how objects from the past were used and how people interacted with their environment. A toilet is not really gonna be up for debate as for what its use was. Historical text, fecal remains, toilets looking pretty similar for the past thousand years, is gonna tell you it’s a toilet.

        The notion of our interpretation of the past being completely flawed is kinda true if it was like the 1950s and we were talking about non-western cultures from a western perspective.

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            ion know why you saying “again” like you made a big point of it being a children’s book (you didn’t). I’m just saying I don’t like media like this. It feels like they’re delegitimizing research that is already brushed off by society as not useful compared to something in a stem field.

            We can have different opinions lol

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        I remember reading a book as a kid, I can’t remember if it was this or maybe inspired by this, but adapted for kids (iirc the art style was more cartoony and comedic) where archeologists unearth a motel called the Toot and C’mon.

        Edit: after a bit of searching I think it was this book. Unlocked some memories I didn’t realize I had.

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        I can’t remember if it’s an official Asimov book or not, but one of the Foundation books set far beyond even the main series has an archaeological mission finding thousands of ceremonial hard white ceramic bowl-funnels and speculating on their significance to these incomprehensibly ancient peoples.

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          thousands

          There’s probably millions even if you account for the fact that most would have been destroyed

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    Looks like a bigass thundercube to me. Don’t wanna fiddle with them too much, they might get krangled.

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      Knitting is a medieval development that originated around Egypt in probably 1000-1100 CE (AD). There is no evidence of two needle knitting before then.

      Romans used sprang, weaving and needlebinding techniques. They did not knit. Some needlebound artifacts can resemble knitting - particularly those in the Coptic stitch. They are still produced using the thumb and needle method of needlebinding and are structurally different.

      The type of knitting that YouTube grandma did on the dodecahedron - spool knitting/French knitting - is an even later development - early modern period - 1400-1500s.

      As a spool knitter, the dodecahedron makes very little sense. The spacing of the pegs - not the spacing of the holes - is what determines the size of the created tube. Every face of the dodecahedron would create the same size tube - which means you’ve just got extra random pointless shit digging into your hands. Google and compare to a modern spool knitter.

      The idea of making a doohickey for fingered gloves, which you would then need to sew on anyway (every knitters least favorite thing to do) - it’s silly.

      Here are some 4th/5th century socks - produced via needlebinding.

      Here is the earliest known example of true knitting. 1000 at earliest.

      You mentioned that not all socks would survive - that is true, but often textile patterns can be recovered through indentions in other material.

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      People say this every time, and it’s still not true, because the Romans didn’t knit. Knitting is a technology and it hadn’t made it to Rome at the time these were made.

      Also, some were solid and unsuitable for knitting. And they were found with giant piles of money, which is a weird place to keep your domestic tools.

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        Gloves. There’s several YouTube videos of people knitting gloves with them. If you use 5 holes, you’ll end up with a slight curve to one side for free. You can use the hole-sizes as a guide for finger width. Most of the work is done by the nubs sticking out, which hold the outermost stitch.

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          YouTube grandma was using it as a French/spool knitter. You can do this with four nails in a board if you are really inclined. The problem is that the peg distance determines the size of the tube - not the holes. All faces would make the same size tube, which is just adding pointless bits to make it unpleasant to use (and more expensive/difficult to manufacture.)

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        And they don’t show signs of wear and tear that using them for such a purpose would create, either.

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    Are we entirely sure it’s not just an ornament? I’ve got all kinds of things that aren’t even ritual objects.

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      Are you asserting that an ornament can’t be categorized as a religious artifact? Cuz if so, I (or you) have some explaining to do.

      Also, I think people have found them on people’s bodies and in their purses, indicating it’s something they might carry around regularly.

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      That is not an uncommon guess, but the argument against it is that these took some sophistication to make. This isn’t some disposable gewgaw. These were made with relatively tight tolerances and exhibited the best metalworking fabrication of the age. One theory I’ve seen seriously floated was that they were made as a demonstration of metal working competency, the equivalent of a benchy in 3D printing.

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      No, no you don’t. Everything that isn’t fully functional and necessary for life is a ritual object! And also some of the the other things to! It’s all ritual! It’s ritual all the way down, baby!