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Eh, that makes it too easy for AI to avoid eating its own excrement
interesting counterpoint. but i also imagine if ai content was correctly tagged, traffic to slop content would dramatically decrease, reducing incentive to post the content in the first place.
i don’t know which force is stronger but i think both certainly exist.
This. Don’t let AI or AI posters know that you caught on. Just report them and be on your way.
I am in complete agreement with this. While you can currently tell what’s AI it won’t be long before we’re scratching our heads wondering which way is up and which way is down. Hell, I saw an AI generated video of a cat cooking food. It looked real sortve.
Ew, steve chowder the naziin all honesty i just know the meme 🤔
The person in the picture is a piece of shit right wing commentor.
fixed
Thanks for mentioning this. I was so confused at these comments. Vincent may be a terrible guy, but he ain’t a Nazi.
Here’s a better version for you friend
next time 👌
There are two versions of Calvin & Hobbes that could be used in his place.
Most photos taken or edited on a cell phone are enhanced with AI. Where do you draw the line?
A.I. generated 👉here is the line👈 A.I. enhanced
That will do 👌
so if I use an AI engine to do in-painting on an existing image, then that’s fine? This image is AI enhanced:
Would it need to be tagged? (obviously should be tagged NSFL)
All of your points are valid, it is hard to draw definitive line, but so will be hard moderating the content because there will be people not giving correct tags to their posts, so even if there will be specific labels for “A.I. generated”, “modified using A.I.” etc people still will avoid using them, intentionally or not
That is AI edited, not enhanced
Is it? Or did I make it in Gimp?
But not AI generated!
Not everyone will use it. Many right wing types spreading divisive or incorrect information, for example.
I’ve also seen boobies that were not flagged NSFW. I didn’t throw my hands up and just delete my NSFW filter though.
True, but it’d still help.
And sets a precedent for moderation.
I was going to suggest community tagging. But then I remembered that’s how Steam works and their game tags are so stupid. So many “souls like” but not really.
so many “multiplayer” ones that are strictly single player as well.
Or steamplay compatible with MP tag but they expected you to just give control to your friend and watch as it’s SP only
Maybe all digital content just shouldn’t be trusted. It’s like some kind of demon-realm or something. Navigable by the wise but for common fools like you and I, perilous. Full of illusion.
I’m more like a moron fool, but ok.
political posts should have a tag as well, so people can filter them out. people just bluesky, pixelfed, … instead of lemmy because of all the politics here.
Yeah, we need to stop all the politics in here!
Strokes his penguin over the head
omg yes. it’s so difficult getting someone to join Lemmy and giving them a list of terms to block if I know they won’t like politics
“Wait, everything is politics?!”
“Always has been”
your mother is politics too?
She must be political because she’s always against me.
Give me a “Elon Musk” & “Donald Trump”-Tag Instead. These Fuck faces are everywhere.
Or just a US politics tag
Get Politics Out Of My Shitposts
I just want banal generic memes with hollow aphorisms, preferably with images of babies or puppies or something. I’m tired of waking up every morning and being confronted with the social expression of my degraded material conditions. People need to just STFU with their outcries of frustration and despair and get back to being clowns for my amusement.
Can’t tell if an unreasonable entitled comment, or a sarcastic comment.
Maybe both? (눈_눈)
“Elon Musk and Donald Trump were individuals?”
(people in 2035, who were not around during the Cronenberg-ing of Musk & Trump in 2028)
And people want a NSFL tag and people want a…
You get a tag, and you get a tag, and you all get a tag!
bring flairs to lemmy! i miss flairs!
15 pieces of flair minimum.
Just give us a “Sensitive” checkbox and a “Reason” textbox.
It is available on R34, Hentai and Porn Website.
Truly we are just improving our tech to goon. LOL
Tech progress has always been driven by humanity’s desire to either kill or fuck someone. I, for one, prefer horny-based progress. Make love, not war, and all that.
we need more innovation in the intersection of killing and fucking, perhaps by designing more realistic fuck-dolls that can have explosives rigged to them to trap and kill soldiers.
It should be fineable starting at like 500 dollars + any profits and ad revenue if its not labelled
How much money is a Lemmy upvote?
At least one money?
I think ai posts should only be posted on ai communities so I can block them all at the same time.
Seriously. Even for memes and funny stuff ai needs to fuck off.
And the fact that everyone even calls it ai when it’s not even close to being a vi is infuriating.
Compling
Yeah that about sums it up
Dude… or should I say, dude??? 🤖
Personally, I don’t really care.
I do enjoy some types of AI content, I do not enjoy others. Same as any other type of content. So that tag would be useless for my personal preferences.
Anyway nsfw tag is made not for moral reasons, but to avoid those images showing when you are in an environment that’s not proper for them (basically so it doesn’t look like you are watching porn at work), this makes no sense for AI content, So I don’t see the point besides some kind of persecution driven by a particular ideology. So I don’t support it.
Sure. Only problem is, it’s a people issue. Some people making ai generated content may be honest and willing to abide to such rule, but most are proud to not even read the rules and just blast shitty slop left and right. For this second category of people, when you point it to them, a very small percentage of them goes “oh, sorry”. The vast majority just keep posting until blocked.
Granted, this experience mostly stems from every media posting sites out there, so it may be a bit biased…
Also, you can’t really regulate other countries. Especially if that country is China.
Adobe is trying for the opposite. Content authenticity with digital signatures to show something is not AI (been having conversations with them on this).
Oh I’m sure Adobe has the greatest of intentions on this. Such a reputable company that has a stellar past.
I’m sure they won’t gatekeep this digital human signature in some atrocious proprietary standard along with an expensive subscription to have the honor of using it.
Don’t listen to Adobe on AI or even better don’t accept any “idea” or solution from Adobe.
Yeah pretty much.
I recall flash, and how they absolutely controlled it. I loved flash as a young programmer too.
But in retrospect, forcing users to go through adobe to use something, with no alternatives? What a nightmare for a Open Internet.
How would that work then, I presume most would just ignore it because if it only verifies you used Adobe to make something it’s pretty worthless as a “this isn’t AI” mark.
It uses cryptographic signatures in the cameras and tools. Say you take a photo with a compatible camera, it gets a signature. Then you retouch in Photoshop, it gets a another signature. And this continues through however many layers. The signature is in the file’s EXIF data, so it can be read on the web. Meaning a photo on a news site could be labeled as authentic, retouched, etc.
Edit: Doesn’t require Adobe tools. Adobe runs the services, but the method is open. There are cameras on the market today that do this when you take a picture. I beleive someone could add it to GIMP if they desired.
GIMP is open source, could someone then just tell it to sign anything?
Only with their private key.
As valid and informative as TwitteX’ blue mark.
And being adobe, they will put a nice little backdoor in it for them to change the credentials so that they can take artists’ work and use it, train their AI with it, and sell it like they have been doing for years.
You can’t change the credentials if the user owns the private key. But nothing stops AI training, that’s part of the terms of service of some of their products, which operate outside the realm of this more open initiative.
Spoken like a real Adobe rep lol.
It’s called a backdoor for a reason. Also since adobe software nowadays has almost full access to your machine, what is to stop adobe from simply uploading and storing your private key on their servers and using it when they like? They run their DRM client with a ton of rights to your computer on boot.
WhatsApp can do exactly the same thing and read every message you write and still claim it is “end to end encrypted” for example because key creation is through a process in their proprietary software.
Not sure why you’d say that, its just a factual statement. Also, I don’t even use Adobe products, and transitioned to GIMP and Shotcut many, many years ago. I work in privacy and data security, so I just happen to be involved with this initiative from the sidelines.
As for your conmetary, you could say the same thing about Signal. But you wouldn’t, because you like them. Just because you don’t like a company doesn’t mean they are being nefarious.
Would I rather a privacy-focused company be doing this? Yes.
Am I pleased with what I see from Adobe (a weekly working group full of identity and open source community members)? Yes.
Does Adobe have a good chance of making this mainstream because of their ecosystem? Also yes.
When you see something better, let me know and I’ll participate there too, vs complaining about those trying.
https://community.signalusers.org/t/overview-of-third-party-security-audits/13243
Here is an entire list of years and years of independent audits
Here, go look yourself to verify that the frontend isn’t sending your encryption key back to the server.
https://www.adobe.com/trust/security.html
Please tell me where I can find the source code of Adobe’s creative cloud DRM that has full access to the computer it is installed on and their audits to verify that they aren’t sending my private keys back.
You are comparing an audited, open source program with closed down proprietary system that says “trust me bro, we work with ‘security partners’, no we won’t release the audits”.
Interesting comparison. It’s like comparing a local farming co-op to the agro-industrial complex of Monsanto/beyer and saying “you could say the same about either! Monsanto is at least innovating in the seed space, no no no, ignore how they use it!!”
You’re taking that out of context. Signal is open source, but you don’t get to see what happens between GitHub and the Play Store. Adobe’s system that I am aluding to is also open, but we don’t get to see what happens in the software itself. The problem is, that’s not even what I’m talking about. I’m talking about a standard they are developing, not their software or DRM.
This isn’t just for Adobe, they’re just starting the process. Other systems can run it. Hardware can run it. Do you not use linux because Canonical or Red Hat contributed? Do you steer developers away from flutter because Google started it? Where is the line? Who do you think kicks off all the standards you use today? OAuth, OIDC, etc. If you want to avoid everything these companies contribe to, you’re going to have to stop using the internet.
