A tankie seems to be supporting Russia, with Russians support, defending itself from NATO expansion. Many communities view US empire objective of diminishing Russia to be a supreme right, and the “virtue of democracy” that all demonism must be true.
“Progressive” Shitlibs when they allow bigots on their platform and Queer people dont like them
(Im pretty sure eveyone other than world users hate world)
.world has now moved onto banning people for calling out transphobia. It was bad when they banned users for calling out the Democrats’ involvement with the genocide of Palestinians, but now they ban users for being “aggressive” with transphobes.
Yea… I am glad I have .world on my block list.
To be fair, sh.itjust.works’ admin thinks Russia and China are pushing “gender ideology” to radicalize western youths against the US, and it’s home to NCD and MWoG, 2 of the most right-wing communities on Lemmy.
What the actual fuck did I just read?
“I’m not a transphobe, but more people realising they’re trans is a psyop by h o s t i l e g o v e r n m e n t s and trans people should sit quietly in the corner if they don’t want to get hatecrimed.”
🤡🤡🤡
Just the standard affair for users of that comm, sadly.
I personally don’t do a lot of hating
I personally dont hate individual people, I hate concepts and organizations (like Neoliberalism and bigotry) :3
THIS is why people have a problem with “tankies.”
Budapest, 1956.
Whatever you do, don’t look up the numbers of Soviet officials lynched before the tanks were sent in, or who the counter-revolutionaries set free from prison to help with the lynching and rioting (spoiler: literal Nazis).
Were you aware that Russia agreed to USSR’s/CIS liberation? All of it was peaceful.
My family comes from Iran and Iraq
THIS is why I have a problem with “liberals”
Baghdad, 2003
Yea, neoliberal ideology is fucked all around. I prefer progressives over self declared libs.
Ah yes, the famous liberal, George Bush.
Holy shit guys he almost gets it.
You’re right there dude. Micrometers from figuring it out.
When you draw the line of Liberal v Conservative so far to the right it includes George Bush, it ceases to lose all meaning.
Liberalism is the ideological component of Capitalism. Conservativism is a type of Liberalism.
You do know that the wars spanned multiple administrations including democratic ones right? Also all American politicians of “both” parties are liberals.
Bill Clinton launched “Operation Desert Fox” to prepare and position the US imperial army ahead of “Operation Iraqi Freedom”
That is all accurate and I don’t disagree with you. But the picture was of an invasion under Bush, not Clinton, so I responded as such.
The problem that I take is l:
Also all American politicians of “both” parties are liberals.
I’m wondering what your definition of Liberal is. Up until like 2020, it was Liberal v Conservative and when I look it up in the dictionary I get “Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.”
But Liberal on Lemmy appears to be anything to the right of a theoretical Star Trek post scarcity utopia.
The internationally recognized measure of left-right. Not the uniquely American one that’s skewed all to fuck.
There is no left at all in American politics. The closest we’ve gotten is Bernie Sanders. He’s a moderate everywhere but here.
The war in Iraq has nothing to do with the parties of the US and was an imperial war that would have occurred no matter who was the “president” of the US
Both parties in the US share an ideological commitment to capitalism and function as a uniparty to manage the empire. From the
CIAWikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.[1][2] Liberals espouse various and often mutually warring views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion.[3] Liberalism is frequently cited as the dominant ideology of modern history.[4][5]: 11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
This has some good aspects and is an improvement from the monarchies that came before it but he clear problems that Marx brought into question in the 19th century. As capitalists have progressed, liberalism in the US particularly has become neoliberalism which is not something communists want and is a precursor to fascism. Liberals fight socialists and communists to maintain their private property and capitalism.
If you are talking in the context as an American of that ridiculous farce of a government “liberals” means the Democratic party, to an anarchist outsider, they are all liberals. I do not believe in or support private property or market economies and think they come in direct opposition to economic and political freedom.
Noe liberal and neo con differences are how you “kiss babies”/comment on social and cultural issues, while electioneering to make the war mongering big bucks from power.
I’ve been doing antiwar protests since Iraq- absolutely massive and totally ignored by the government. It was a bit radicalizing.
I’ve always considered myself an anarchist. These days I get called a tankie just for being opposed to wars and vocally opposing my own governments complicity in genocide. Somehow the meaning of tankie got flipped to mean the people opposed to sending in the tanks. Most ml’s I’ve known are the first people to shit on Khrushchev anyways.
You know it’s gotten pretty bad when even the anarchist flag usernames are meming about how ridiculous the anti tankie attitude is.
Imo anarchists and people who even lean that way have a big interest in making sure tankie doesn’t get used as an insult for anyone to the left of liberals, real tankies grouped and killed anarchists, letting everyone be called tankies and not just real tankies means Anarchists are less safe.
True left unity is uniting against .world
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I haven’t been able to take the word “tankie” seriously in most cases since I asked that to someone on Reddit and they linked a meme praising anarchist Catalonia
Yeah, it’s kind of lost all meaning. I’ve seen Marxists call Liberals tankies, and I’ve seen Liberals calls Marxists tankies. I’ve seen right wingers call Leftists tankies, and I’ve seen Leftists call Centerists tankies. I know where the word came from, and who the first tankies were but I rarely know what a person’s intent is with that word anymore. Maybe it’s just young people slang now and I’m just too old to get it.
Because I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it anymore and what’s it seems weird and scary. And it’ll happen to you!
Aside from conservatives, does anyone think the world is controlled by marxists, tankie or otherwise?
The closest is the PRC, though all Marxists understand that the US is the current hegemon.
The meme is about lemmy.world and American liberals are center-right conservatives so…
Basically my thoughts are, if you give slight pushback to American talking points you get called a tankie. It’s kind of annoying.
Look agan
Look agan
I did! It’s a Siberian river apparently. What about it? 🤓
in order to combat leftist propaganda lemmy.flatearth is now forcing disinformation onto its communities. The red scare runs deep.
Seriously?
Poop
Cum
I shidded
That’s not really a thing neoliberals say…
They definitely complain about the tankies being a big part of the culture of Lemmy, and housing some of the biggest communities, but the statement in the comic isn’t even remotely a thing neolibs or the .world demographic says
So this comic kinda just feels like a strange, confusing straw man…
The only times I hear of tankies is from how annoying they are in online forums, their only power being in their subreddits and lemmy instances. The only references to Marxists are from idiots repeating MAGA talking points.
Nothing appears to exist if you never open your eyes
Who told you not to trust anything the US said?
This is meme is for people who are incapable of forming their own thoughts but have been told they are, aka, tools of propaganda.
Who told you not to trust anything the US said?
Living in the US is sufficient cause to distrust its government.
Being educated is a sufficient cause to distrust all governments.
Idk I like it when the proletariat is able to dictate the course of society
Also your reply contradicts your statement that I first replied to.
Not at all.
Someone told you not to trust either. Presumable not the same person, presumable American government told you not to trust China but that begs then question who told you not to trust the American government.
Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.
Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.
There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed.
who told you not to trust the American government.
You don’t have to be told not to trust it. Even deluded Chuds who guzzle US corporate propaganda all day don’t trust it.
Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.
No, the meme implies that your distrust isn’t justified, not that trust is justified.
Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.
Okay, have you talked to any recent(as in the last 10 years) immigrants from China who don’t make way over the median US income? Or hell, earlier immigrants mostly only complain about the liberalization period under Deng.
There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed
This doesn’t really acknowledge the class character of the state.
I have a brain, you know.
