• Wispy2891@lemmy.world
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    “Let me tell you, folks, this, what we’re seeing right now, it’s HUGE, okay? I mean, some people are saying—and I don’t know, but they’re saying—it could be the biggest rugpull in the history of rugpulls. Tremendous potential. Absolutely tremendous. Nobody’s ever seen a rugpull like this before, believe me.”

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    Jimmy Carter sold his fucking peanut farm, and now this is the point we’re at.

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      Pretty much. You can make 1001 cards with your signature and a number on them, sell 1 of them for $1000 to your best friend, then say you’re a millionaire now because you have 1000 cards left each worth $1000.

      That’s how cryptocurrency market caps work.

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        I read your comment, thought it’s impossible that you’re right, and took a beat to verify. You’re entirely correct. Crypto truly is this stupid.

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        Great! Now we need to fix the tax code so you have to declare that as income, and it’s taxed progressively. That would pretty quickly put the kibosh on these scams.

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      Yes and no.

      It’s a collection of numbers with properties related to how they’re found that make them difficult to counterfeit, and the way they’re recorded makes it difficult to steal. This, as well as a handful of other properties, give digital currencies behavior not entirely unlike the things that make cash useful.

      Unlike money, it’s not backed by a government. This means that it’s much more volatile in terms of value. Say what you will about the state of the US, it’s unlikely that the dollar will significantly change value over the next year. It’s essentially guaranteed that the price of every cryptocurrency will be wildly different a year from today.
      Put them together and you’ve got a wonderful vehicle for laundering money or bribery, which is what this all is.
      The other key aspect of money that it’s missing is being generally useful outside of speculation. I can reliably use my dollars to pay for goods and services, and most significantly to pay taxes and satisfy debts in the eyes of the law. Cryptocurrency is inevitably either instantly converted to money once someone gets it, or it’s held onto under the assumption it’ll be worth more later.
      Money has value because it gets you “stuff”. Cryptocurrency has value because it gets you money.

      It’s fake money, but it’s a very complicated and realistic fake money.

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        People acting like cryptocurrency isn’t just a security backed by thin air really drives me up the wall.

        Crypto is a mirage and when it crashes people will all be wondering, “damn how were we this naive.”. But humans are great at playing make believe so who knows. But acting like the USD and Bitcoin are the same is lunacy.

        Like you said one is money, the other you hold onto and want to turn into money.

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        Cryptocurrency is inevitably either instantly converted to money once someone gets it, or it’s held onto under the assumption it’ll be worth more later.

        Money has value because it gets you “stuff”. Cryptocurrency has value because it gets you money.

        With one notable exception…when it is actually used as a medium of exchange, to buy drugs on the internet. (Which the vast majority of crypto is not used for, especially shitcoins like Trump’s scam.)

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          Yeah and you’re a fool if you use Bitcoin for that purpose

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            I don’t know if this one is more money laundering or bribery or both, but it’s clearly something in that ballpark, yeah.

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        The sci-fi books/series “The Expanse” features a rogue lab where all the scientists got the part of their brain responsible for empathy intentionally destroyed.

        I sometimes think about that and wonder what it would be to be like that. How easy it would be to make a ton of money. And how sad it must be for these people to live only for themselves.

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        A friend and I were discussing this. It seems like these days it’s more rewarding, objectively, to be a shitbag than to actually be a good human. We’re constantly being played for suckers despite having morals. Everyone else is cheating in this tragedy of the moral commons.

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          There’s a selection bias, we usually hear about the most successful shitbags. Most ordinary shitbags live pretty terrible lives. Just look at the life of the typical red state resident. Usually working their ass off in a blue collar for some plutocrat who abuses them, subjected to country music all day long. Almost makes me feel bad for them.

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            Most ordinary shitbags live pretty terrible lives

            Same goes for most ordinary non-shitbags.

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              The point is, just because one shitbag gets away with it, that shouldn’t motivate you to also become a shitbag.

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        It actually seems like it feels pretty great. The downside is you’re probably some degree of sociopath or other disorder. But I’m neither qualified nor experienced to diagnose.

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      Isn’t calling it a meme supposed to be the quiet part? I thought we called them “meme” coins because everybody was in agreement that the coin wasn’t meant to be taken seriously?

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        Nah, you call it a meme so everyone doesn’t look at it too closely.
        It’s like the typos in scam emails and texts.
        The people that would actively investigate such a thing dismiss it immediately.
        The stupid people buy right into it.

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      skeet (the generally accepted term for a Bluesky post)

      Can we just agree that they are all just “posts”? No more “tweets”, “Toots”, “xeets”, etc… it’s just a post.

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      History from someone who moved to the platform early on:

      A lot of the early adopters were the queer and trans community, first to leave Twitter after Musk’s meddling and most sensitive to the changes he was making. (In this context I don’t mean sensitive as in “snowflake”, I mean sensitive as in “aware of inevitable changes and resultant catastrophe” - when someone shits in the pool you don’t wait wait for the water to turn brown). They took the gross out humor and used it as a ward to keep some of the other elements from following over. Now they defend the term as history.

      I don’t particularly agree, I understand the basis for it but ugh, it’s still gross. I keep advocating for “bleats” which kind of works as “Bluesky tweet” and leans into us all being sheep; something I find cute and take no offense at because it’s a toothless insult wielded by deeply unserious people. Alternatively, I think we should’ve just straight stolen tweet since the trademark or whatever has been abandoned at this point (???). Failing that, I’ll probably resort to just calling them posts, there’s no point in fighting momentum like this and I imagine it’ll probably settle down onto something else once the platform gets over its first wave of serious growing pains … if it lives that long.

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    Look at the bright side: only a die-hard magard would fall for this grift. So when Trump pulls the rug, the magards will finally realize they’ve been took.

    In other words, Trump is innoculating his own followers with the cure for Trumpism.

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      Oh yeah because this is totally the first time ever that he’s fucked them over.

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      So when Trump pulls the rug, the magards will finally realize they’ve been took.

      Bless your heart.

      No, no it will be the democrats’ fault somehow. Or brown people. Or both. Probably both.

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      Trump has been running the same scams for decades. There’s probably tons of bag holders for his NFT scam that are loading up on TRUMP and MELANIA. He’s got a whole mailing list of gullible marks and he keeps butchering that pig until there’s nothing left.

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      the magards will finally realize they’ve been took

      No they won’t. They will line up for the next one. The only reason they will ever stop is because they have nothing left. And then when they have nothing they will blame immigrants, woke, Soros, or whoever for their lot in life.

      There are people who exist in this world who can not comprehend that the actions they take lead in part to the consequences that follow. The only thing that can be done is to watch from the side them losing everything and then getting out of the way as best one can in their fit of rage.

      Sort of like a person with a gambling addiction putting the last $10k of their life savings into a slot machine. We know what’s going to happen, there is nothing that can stop it from happening.

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      This was a money laundering scheme. Foreign governments and companies (foreign and domestic) who want favor with trump are the ones who bought in.

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      He’ll just gish gallop his way out of it. Whatever smoke screen he comes up with will make his followers lose focus on all the money they have lost. Example:

      Oh wow, look at this immigrant caravan from Panama. Let’s invade and stop them.

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        Or he’ll just claim he wasn’t a part of it and “some very bad people” are the ones responsible for their losses.

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    You’d think he’d be able to afford a cap that fits his soggy meat container he calls a head.