Heck, if they made a sticky post saying “We’re looking at moving c/196 to another instance” a few months ago when the mod team started working on it[see edit], people probably would be less upset than they are now. Let alone putting it to a poll.
I don’t want to make it sound like the c/196 team is nefarious or something, because IMO they are not. I just think they had a big lapse in judgement here around transparency, as well as a definition around community ownership that doesn’t jive all that well with a lot of folks on federated services.
Edit: By the way, friends, if it turns out there was some form of notice in advance other than the current sticky and its duplicate (I know there wasn’t consultation), please tell me. It’s important to be clear on the facts - if we’re not, we get people saying and repeating stuff like “it’s because of the neopronoun stuff that came up”, which is not really true.
if we’re not, we get people saying and repeating stuff like “it’s because of the neopronoun stuff that came up”, which is not really true.
Isn’t it? Seems like that issue really brought the difference in moderation styles between the blahaj admin(s) and the 196 mods into focus. The move in itself isn’t really the issue (rather how they did it and to where), but it would not have happened if there wasn’t a rift between community mods and instance admin(s).
The mod team was mad that a couple people were banned for what they say were “mild takes.” And mad that they asked Ada to unban these people and Ada said no. So they changed to a server where people can be their acceptable level of transphobic.
People banned from blahaj are posting on every single post that’s gone up in the new community, and commenting as if they don’t have a massive conflict of interest on how Ada’s moderation style as if there’s no sour grapes.
If they moved to (almost) any other instance I’d have no problem.
Heck, if they made a sticky post saying “We’re looking at moving c/196 to another instance” a few months ago when the mod team started working on it[see edit], people probably would be less upset than they are now. Let alone putting it to a poll.
I don’t want to make it sound like the c/196 team is nefarious or something, because IMO they are not. I just think they had a big lapse in judgement here around transparency, as well as a definition around community ownership that doesn’t jive all that well with a lot of folks on federated services.
Edit: By the way, friends, if it turns out there was some form of notice in advance other than the current sticky and its duplicate (I know there wasn’t consultation), please tell me. It’s important to be clear on the facts - if we’re not, we get people saying and repeating stuff like “it’s because of the neopronoun stuff that came up”, which is not really true.
Isn’t it? Seems like that issue really brought the difference in moderation styles between the blahaj admin(s) and the 196 mods into focus. The move in itself isn’t really the issue (rather how they did it and to where), but it would not have happened if there wasn’t a rift between community mods and instance admin(s).
The mod team was mad that a couple people were banned for what they say were “mild takes.” And mad that they asked Ada to unban these people and Ada said no. So they changed to a server where people can be their acceptable level of transphobic.
People banned from blahaj are posting on every single post that’s gone up in the new community, and commenting as if they don’t have a massive conflict of interest on how Ada’s moderation style as if there’s no sour grapes.