So all we need to do is find a way to put people in prison!

Win-win!

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    I don’t think we have chain gang type prison programs in Canada. It’s so archaic. Making license plates to have an occupation might be reasonable, but this chain gang shit is inhumane.

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    If someone lands on your property, you don’t get paid if you are in prison. Though if the board is loaded up with hotels on orange and the other players aren’t near your properties, you can stay in for a bit rolling doubles to avoid going broke.

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    Ah yes, California’s penal legion of slaves “indentured servants” that we uh… voted to keep around in the last election.

    Man, CA politics are fucking bizarre. Sometimes the slam dunk no-brainer propositions fail and there never seems to be a really good reason why.

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      Money, and liberals.

      California is liberal. Not left. Every once in a while some leftist proposition comes up that threatens money, and money always wins.

      When they say liberals are wolves in sheep’s clothing, this is kinda what they’re talking about. They care, they really care about their fellow man, as far as their comfortable standard of living allows.

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    Isn’t there an amendment about this? We had that whole interval railway war over capitalism under the guise of fighting for that amendment?

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      “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction”

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    Also keep in mind that they are getting charged by the day to be in prison and if ever released will owe a large bill. Usually this results in immediate bankruptcy which further increases chances of future incarceration. By design

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      Yo, what?? I need to do some research apparently, because I was under the impression that their stay was paid by for taxes. It can’t be both, and if it is I may need to change careers.

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    They mention how much money they’re making but not that everything they have to spend it on comes from the institution imprisoning them and unconscionably price-gouged even by outside standards.

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    I already thought this was bad when they were asked made to work fast food jobs. Asking Making them to risk bodily harm is an entirely different idea. I think I want my first responders to feel fairly compensated when I call for help.

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    To play devil’s advocate, and out of blind ignorancr, what’s the alternative? Do nothing? Conscript the public?

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        Fluctuating demand makes the use of Volunteer firefighters more desirable

        But reducing pollution and better environment management (controlled burns, removing dead brush, letting natural floods occur) will go further than any fire brigade

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        Did you see how much they had to increase the police budget? Sadly there simply is no way we can afford to pay firefighters.

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      Land value taxes to fund well-paid firefighters. Regulations on water usage, land use, and construction. Repeal Prop 13.

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      The country has plenty of able bodied and willing firefighters, just not enough willing to do it for poverty wages with a seasonal employment schedule. I used to work with a bunch of these crazy bastards in the off season when I was a line cook.

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      No, pay the prisoners for fucks sake. Also, a lot of people would want that money but its extremely hard to get a job if youre, for example, homeless.

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    Also, many of them are ineligible to become actual firefighters after their release from prison due to their criminal record. I would be slightly more okay with this system if it translated into a guaranteed position as a firefighter following release if they agree to go to an area in need like in smaller communities that have trouble recruiting firefighters.

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    I think one of the absolute stupidest things about this when it comes up is that when these same people get let out of prison they can’t even get the job of fire fighter because of their criminal record.

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      While no legal system is perfect, I much prefer the way some countries prevent the public from hearing the actual names of criminals or someone’s criminal history. Not everyone needs to be branded for life with a scarlet letter. It would reduce recidivism as well.