I’ve always hated how alcohol commercials play up like a cool beer is the best thing in the world, or a glass of whiskey is what will put hair on your chest. It’s a disgusting narrative that ruins people’s lives.
On social media, there’s a huge variety of it. People posting how they were sober on NYE. Folks sharing before/after as they’ve gone cold turkey. I see people share tips of what type of mocktails to get at bars, and alternatives to having a fun night over getting drunk.
I appreciate that.
And this is not bashing alcohol. Moderation in everything.
when you’re old enough to get a hangover just from staying up late
Listen, I can’t deal with my sore back, bum knee, AND a hangover all at once.
The anti-chiropractic echo chamber that is Lemmy left me in in pain for far too long. I’m certain they vary wildly in skill and quality, but after just two sessions, my 3 weeks of lower back pain are gone. Dude is a godsend.
The placebo effect does exist, and I still remain skeptical of chiropractors, but I’m glad that you were able to get some relief.
Fact is, the objective scientific/medical understanding of the causes and treatment of lower back pain is pretty limited anyhow, so you might as well try whatever you can.
The placebo effect is pretty magical in itself. You’re convincing your body to heal itself and it does in a minority of people. I guess there really are wizards among us.
The placebo effect is less about healing yourself and more about altering your perception of your situation
Sure, but it has actual, measurable effects. You can cause your body to fix itself by tricking it into thinking you took a medicine to fix it. That’s insane.
The ortho basically shrugged and told me to go to physical therapy. Physical therapy was nice but was very slow going and time consuming. Chiropractor brought immediate relief. Would I like them to have a deeper medical and scientific understanding of what they are doing? Of course. But I am not going to argue with results.
That’s the thing though, physiotherapy is proven to work, through decades of practice and research. We know how and why various exercises etc. have the effects they do based on what damage you’ve suffered.
Chiropracty was founded with the belief that misalignment of your vertebra is the sole cause of various illnesses and disease, ergo if you pop your spine correctly you’ll cure your cancer, or your asthma, or what have you. That’s obviously not true. There’s no real evidence that ciropractic manipulation actually fixes anything, but people do experience relief for a time. Then that passes and they need to return for follow up sessions.
There are also dangers involved with the practise, with people suffering serious injuries, and some even dying because of it.
I wouldn’t want someone without a proper education to mess around with my spine. It’s too important.
There are plenty of people who swear by them. There are plenty who have been fucked up by them too.
I have a friend who went to one, was getting relief for his back pain, and then decided to adjust his neck. He immediately felt like he was electrocuted and almost threw up from dizziness. He is now 4 years deep into chronic, debilitating neck pain, that didn’t exist prior to the adjustment. He is having to be treated with pain injections just to function.
Ex-wife was an RN and not prone to magical thinking. Chiropractor fixed her shit in 6 weeks, told her she was done, don’t come back. She was and she didn’t. It was honestly amazing.
So yeah, I won’t lump them all in with the modern alchemists, but OTOH, they should have been self-regulating if they wanted to be taken more seriously.
I just feel like… If you believe in science, and want to actually help people, you become a physiotherapist or an orthopedist or something. You know, real medicine.
Like, was there something that specific chiropractor did that they would not have been able to do if they had become a physiotherapist instead? I feel like there is a Venn diagram here, where the shit that chiropractors do that actually works is entirely overlapped with some other form of actual doctor.
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I’ve never actually had a hangover in my life, despite drinking since I was 16.
What does it feel like?
It feels like being sick with a horrible cold with nausea and vertigo but without a fever or runny nose.
Like someone didn’t hit me in the face with a crowbar.
Headaches. Vomiting. Like the flu.
I learned a few tricks to avoid hangovers. Drinking water in-between drinks, ramen noodles before sleeping(or whatever your favorite soup is) and avoiding getting to a point where the world spins when your eyes are closed.
Huh. I may have lucked into doing things right then. I always drink plenty of water, tea, etc. even when drinking alcohol as well.
If you’re not into ramen, look into hydration products like liquid IV. The ramen is filling a similar role in that it’s salty AF, so you’re helping replenish electrolytes that help prevent the hangover.
Ever since I started including one or two of those in my post drinking/pre bedtime routine and I haven’t had a hangover in years.
If you’re consuming that much sodium, you’re gonna also want to drink water though because it can dehydrate you. Which also causes/worsens hangovers.
Yeah, art if my routine when drinking is to never have rounds in a row, its always a glass of water in between. Liquid IV/ramen broth are water based, so that helps as well
I try to do 1:1 alcohol to water (one glass of water per alcoholic beverage), but that often becomes hard to enforce on myself after a couple of drinks lol
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Like being poisoned.
I remember being this. I also remember everyone telling me to enjoy it while it lasts… and they’re aboslutely right.
One day it just goes away. Suddenly you have a hangover for the first time, and then that’s it. You’re no longer the “I don’t get hangovers” person.
I’m 58. I’m pretty sure that if I haven’t had one by now I won’t have one.
It feels like you are piloting an older flesh suit with a dying battery. The actions are on a slight delay, there a weird buzzing in the head, everything feels dry even after drinking water, and light is the enemy. That is at least how it is when I get a weed hangover. I haven’t had an alcohol one in ages some I stopped drinking drinking.
Stuff your mouth full of cotton, and find someone to kick you in the head a few times. That’s pretty close.
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I really want a drink right now but i dont want to get shit faced. The problem is, once i pop the fun dont stop, ya know
I’m really glad that more and more places are offering fun mocktails. Sometimes you want the social aspect of drinking but not the alcohol
I just wish they wouldn’t charge alcohol prices for them
I hate that mocktails are as expensive if not more expensive than literal alcoholic drinks despite having no expensive alcohol in them.
I’ve seen mocktail “shots” that cost more than an actual shot. It’s basically a ginger shot (not even a fresh one) with extra shit in it. Not worth the $12
Their lack of alchol is specifically makes them cost more. Flavorants can’t be watered down as much as alchohol can. So the only way to get similar profit margins is to charge more.
I’m just happy that there is finally some good NA beers. I realized I had a problem drinking where I would just want to keep drinking once I started but I had such a connection between beer and sports that it became hard to watch sports without wanting a beer which would then turn in to me wanting 12 beers. Just being able to have a good NA beer which tricked my mind into thinking I’m having a beer. My brain didn’t get the dosage of alcohol that I needed to keep drinking booze so I could just have 2 of them during an Orioles game and not worry about it. I’ve only had 8 total drinks since election night. Never more than 2 in a day but I’ve decided that I’m totally off booze since those 8 drinks.
I’ve never touched alcohol in my life outside of cleaning purposes (I mean isopropyl alcohol, or as I like to call it, icy prope). And to be honest, you’ve convinced me to remain teetotal.
However, I always have the feeling I wanted to try out some drinks just for that taste but can’t because it’s got some of that الكحول in it. And there are very few non-alcoholic alternatives for these drinks. The only one I’ve tried is a virgin mojito (in my country it’s sometimes referred to as just “mojito” because it’s the only one we know). And honestly, it tastes great. And then there’s the fact that I can’t make my own vanilla extract. You need ethanol for that, and I just have this fear of putting it in my body because I don’t wanna get addicted to it.
I’ve always treated alcohol like drugs and tobacco. They feel fun, and you want more, but it will knock you out when you least expect it.
I wish I could stop drinking. Save yourselves.
There’s a C for that:
Man I haven’t “quit” but a couple months back I just decided it was more work to go get a beer from the fridge than it was worth. Because then after a few I had to then get up and piss. More effort. Now I’m out of beer at the house and it’s more effort to drive to the store and get it and then it would repeat that cycle. So, pure laziness has more or less sobered me up.
I actually do have a nice bottle of whiskey hidden but it’s not open and I’ve been saving it for an occasion(ive had it almost a year). I do have to entertain guests coming up so I think I’ll just get a small case of nice beer and leave it as an option and once it’s gone it’s gone.
So anyway what I’m saying is, maybe try just being lazy.
Hope you’re doing ok.
I’m a heavy drinker but screw it, sharing my non-alcoholic version of Irish cream here:
- 100ml whole milk; boiling hot
- a cinnamon stick
- some pieces of orange skin, just the yellow part
- drinking chocolate powder; I use 3tbsp
- instant coffee powder; I use 2tbsp
- 400g dulce de leche [see note]
- 200ml half-and-half
- vanilla extract
- 300~500ml whole milk, again; keep it cool
- Simmer the cinnamon stick and orange skin in the whole milk for 10 minutes or so. Then throw them away, they’re just to add flavour to the milk.
- Add the other ingredients, in the sequence listed, making sure to incorporate well one ingredient before adding another. Taste it and add more or less milk as you want, if it tastes too strong add more milk.
- Transfer to a bottle, chill it. Serve it on the rocks.
NOTE: you can buy the dulce de leche if you want, but it gets more expensive than just making it at home with the same amount of sweetened condensed milk.
My stupid ass read this as a non-alcoholic Irish Whiskey and got confused when I saw milk.
This is still great! Thank you!
whenever we go as a group to get cocktails we do 2 booze rounds and 1 boozeless round so we’re all set to drive
You are not okay to drive after two booze rounds
after 3 hours? its not like im poundin em and hittin the road
One “serving” of alcohol is fully metabolized after about an hour. If you’re having two drinks at the beginning side of a three-hour period, you’re fine to drive.
One per hour and not more than 3 is a very easy rule for staying below 0.08. Two drinks in an hour and nothing more will usually still keep you below the limit tbh. It really is that third and fourth drink which tilt it.
They probably mean they’re likely to be below the breath-alcohol limit for their region.
Also duration of these rounds can be accounted for in that calculation.
That being said, it’s always best to have a personal limit of zero when driving.
No big deal. I can’t personally take shots, but I can drink beer and metabolize it super fast. To each his own, but trying to put a “one size fits all” limit on drinking is silly.
I can drink shitty light beer all day, but one time I drank 3 beers on a date at the local brew house, drove home and thought, “Jesus. I shouldn’t be doing this.”
To most people, drinking means hammered, or at least too loosey-goosey to drive. Some of us aren’t like that. (And yes, no matter who you are, alcohol dulls reflexes.)
If it works for you, great.
I wouldn’t say I “appreciate” it as it leans towards being subjective, but I’d say it seems to make more sense for alcohol to be refused. What goes on in a person’s mind when they’re using the world’s oldest form of psychiatry to reduce their faculties which are themselves implied to be the issue as a response to the weight of life?
I like drinking alcohol or taking legal substances during certain events. Feeling a bit of floatyness while watching the sunset is a great feeling (in moderation).
If that feeling doesn’t mean anything to you, thats cool and no judgement.
I think about how some cultures eat dessert as a closure to their favorite meal, and thats the only metaphor I can think of.
Edit: found a meme I relate to: https://slrpnk.net/post/16826864
I got drunk precisely one time, for my 21st birthday. The legal age here is 21 and so the local bar sends you a sampling set for your birthday to see what drink you like. Despite getting pumped up for it, I wasn’t prepared for “how” to do it so I got drunk and almost got lost in the process (but was able to conclude my favorite drink was quince cider, which I had already liked, though after a few blunders trying to recognize what the heck I just drank). I’m not against drinking per se, but it confirmed an idea in my mind that, in a utilitarian sense, it’s feels connected to the mindset “if I can’t have my mind, nobody can”, which I carry over with the topic of drugs too even though I’ve done sarpa salpa multiple times when I was younger (that was more cultural though) and have tried to do art while under the influence.
You might also consider that you had one bad experience, and that maybe you shouldn’t base an opinion on such a small sample size? You don’t have to get blackout drunk. It seems like you’ve never actually experienced the feeling that the other comment was referring to (a buzz). You just went all out, and found out that you don’t like being blackout drunk (most people don’t).
Like it seems you might have the wrong idea of what people usually mean when they say they’re “drinking” since your only experience with it is basically poisoning yourself with it.
Just a thought…
I’m not basing it on my experience, which wasn’t “bad”. It’s more of a dilemma type of thing I picked up (you might say I’m critical of coffee in this way, though for this, it’s not a “complaint”). Even if it was a buzz, it seems like an oddly specific route of satisfaction.
Is not about refusing alcohol, is about more people becoming anti social and just not being comfortable with stuff related to it. I’m one of them
mate this is explicitly about people choosing non-alcoholic options at social gatherings
Haha! I do enjoy when I convince my anti-social friends to come to a party and give them a chill out room to recharge and tricks to getting the pets to play with them.
Every good party needs a chill out room for sure.
And that’s not what I’m talking about
Well what are you talking about then?
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