Summary
In 2024, conservative-leaning online spaces emphasizing traditional masculinity gained mainstream influence, driven by figures like Joe Rogan and trends like the “tradwife” movement.
Platforms like X, under Elon Musk’s ownership, became hubs for anti-“woke” sentiment, while podcasting further amplified right-wing ideas.
This cultural shift mirrored Trump’s election victory and reflected backlash against progressive gender norms.
Though some view these spaces as promoting traditional values, critics warn of growing misogyny and radicalization in the “manosphere.”
The rise of such spaces highlights deepening political polarization online.
Rise? How long ago did they write this? Were a solid decade past rise. It rose.
“News”
Yeah this is like the past decade.
I don’t understand what hawk tuah has to do with this but I haven’t listened to her podcast. Is she pushing right wing ideas or something?
Any desperate meme shit like this circles the bowl and gathers in the gutter. The gutter is a place exclusively run by conservatives so they can catch failed actors/comedians and the latest conservative criminal clown on parade (I.e. Rittenhouse, protest gun couple, etc) She’s probably fine enough, but was likely vulnerable and is now fully surrounded by a grift cocoon (hence the crypto bullshit). She’s also likely drinking her own kool aid by now, getting fed coke and kept on a constant schedule to keep her on the hamster wheel. They’ll milk every drop and especially “spit on that thang” as it all burns out and the grifters infrastructure drastically discounts the condoms with her face on them in the merch store as they move on to the next pray in the headlines. Conservative soccer moms will then buy graphic year with her face on then for $4 after it becomes a bargain basement licensed meme like the grumpy cat.
We live in a cloud of shit.
Wikipedia says she’s from Tennessee. That’s the only thing that hinted at conservatism that I’ve seen
Apparently she got involved in a big crypto scam or something too. Not sure if that makes her explicitly right wing though.
Memecoins aren’t a scam. You can’t say that someone who is selling dog shit is scamming people when they tell you that its dog shit.
Yeah it seems like an unrelated thing that the author is trying to force to fit the trend their article is about.
I honestly feel bad for that woman’s journey regardless of her politics. She got famous for being open about her sexuality, and then a bunch of old men like Bill Maher slobbered all over her, and then she got suckered in to sponsoring a crypto scam that she obviously had no understanding of, and now she’s facing potential legal trouble for it.
She’s basically been taken advantage of every step of the way because she’s apparently not especially savvy enough to figure that out and really the only reason is that she’s conventionally attractive and frankly sexual. For the Bill Mahers and crypto bros, that was enough to exploit her in every way they could.
She’s a grown adult I’d be with you, but she was defending the coin pretty hard in that Coffeezilla segment, she took advantage of the 15 mins as much as possible and in a lot of ways succeeded. If she didn’t know what crypto was and what happens when influencers get involved with it, she shouldn’t have exposed her fans to it, but she saw the bag and went ahead.
Because, like so many other Americans, she was taught to grab on to that brass ring and don’t let go if people notice you. I don’t blame her for that either.
I’m not suggesting she isn’t still responsible for her actions, and if she is charged in the crypto scam, so be it… but I still feel bad for her.
Your first paragraph feels an awful lot like you are suggesting she isn’t responsible for her actions.
My second paragraph should have led you to the opposite conclusion.
I can pity someone and not blame them for what they did but still feel they should be responsible for their actions when they are bad actions.
Empathy is in extremely short supply these days, at least online.
So I see.
At some point, you need to hold the figurehead accountable for the scam so that other potential future figureheads will know to do some research before putting their name on illegal shit.
I already said if there is found reason to try her for her contribution to the crypto scam, that should happen.
I know. I’m saying that her attaching her name to it and endorsing it should be enough of a reason.
Okay, well I’m not a lawyer so I can’t say if that is enough of a reason, but if it is, so be it. That doesn’t change my empathy toward her.
(I’m not sure why so many people here think “I feel sorry for her” and “she should get tried for her crimes” can’t both be thoughts someone holds without any contradiction.)
running crypto scam in fourth year of our lord covid? she should have know better, could have learned about it at any point during last eight years or so. if it’s something she had no idea about maybe she shouldn’t do it in the first place. she had these 5 min of cringey fame and used it all on grifting
You’re essentially blaming a person who isn’t very bright for not being very bright. I hope you realize that.
That’s not how the law works, you get charged regardless if you’re dumb or smart if you break the law.
You might get a lighter sentence but stupid people doing crime is still crime.
Jesus Christ, how many fucking times?
I’m not suggesting she isn’t still responsible for her actions, and if she is charged in the crypto scam, so be it… but I still feel bad for her.
Sorry, I guess I took your word “blame” to mean it isn’t her fault and hence my comment about legality.
But let me answer from an emotional perspective:
I don’t think people should feel bad for her cause she isn’t a teenager, an adult should know better that there is no free lunch. Trying to get rich off of your 15 mins of fame won’t be honest work.
I don’t think people should feel bad for her cause she isn’t a teenager, an adult should know better that there is no free lunch.
She’s 21. The same age millions of Americans are when they’re tricked into high-interest loans and credit cards with massive APRs. Plus payday lending.
I feel bad for all of them despite them being adults that “should know better that there is no free lunch.” Why wouldn’t I feel bad for her? She’s a victim of the same fucking system that raises every American child to believe that they’ll be rich and successful one day, they just have to do whatever the fuck they can to get there.
She didn’t go to college. She worked in a factory before she got well-known. Since when do we expect people like her to be educated enough to understand a crypto scam just because they’re over 18? She probably didn’t even know what crypto was the day she signed the contract. Why would she? All she knew was people were going to make her rich and when was she ever told to not trust such people? She was told the opposite all of her life just by living in America.
And I am astounded people can’t see that.
Again, that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have any responsibility here. Ignorance is no excuse. But that also doesn’t mean she doesn’t deserve any sympathy.
And I am astounded people can’t see that.
I do appreciate that you’re coming from a place of empathy.
But since there is a divide in perspective, maybe I can clarify.
Most people draw the line somewhere for agency. By this argument, even evil politicians “deserve empathy”.
Here is an alternative take:
Empathy is an emotion made by evolution for the benefit of society. It’s good to feel empathy because it helps guide people back to good morality.
That becomes ineffective when they refuse to listen. Imo that’s where society correctly draws the line on agency and empathy.
If people tell you, hey, what your doing is not right but you want your payday anyway, it benefits society more to put social pressure on the individual (judge them) instead of empathize with them.
So right now, she is so far gone that having empathy is not gonna change her, collectively disapproving of her has a better chance, hence the judgement.
So I don’t disagree with empathy, I just think you got to draw the line somewhere.
if you don’t know what are you doing, maybe you shouldn’t until you know, or at least do a double take
Again, you’re blaming someone who isn’t very bright for not being very bright.
Half of humanity is of below average intelligence.
shoulda talked tuah lawyer, reinventing 100 year old crimes doesn’t come with a get free out of jail card if you think you’ve figured it out for the first time
I already said that if she is found to be liable for her part in the crypto scam, she should be tried for it.
Is the concept of feeling pity for someone even if they commit a crime so foreign to so many people here?
cryptobros (gender nonspecific) burn our collective future for a quick buck, why tf should feel anyone feel pity for them
Don’t need to be very bright to agree to x amount of money in exchange for putting your name on something
And yet people get scammed every single day in just that manner.
Tbh isn’t all memecoin a scam? There’s potential to make money sure, but only if you’re an insider.
The fact that I have no idea what “Hawk Tuah” is means I’m doing something right.
The far right has been there from the jump. The
KKKOrder used to pull armored truck heists and use the proceeds to buy computers so they could collaborate on the early internet.I haven’t heard this before. Source?
They were called The Order, and I misremembered their constituency: more neo-nazi than KKK, although one of their goals was to be a bridge between the two groups.
Apparently they made a movie about them recently, of the same name, so I’m finding it hard to search for info about the group itself, but I recall hearing the computer-buying tidbit from Behind The Bastards and being able to find a source for it online.
In case you wanna continue the hunt: I believe it had a sepia-tone picture or illustration at the top of the article and it was a long-form story not a current event piece. I also recall they were specifically Apple II computers, but searching podcast transcripts for the word “apple” yields a flood of results for “apple podcasts”, so not much help there.
This tool seemed promising, but didn’t quite get me there: https://podscripts.co/podcasts/behind-the-bastards/
Wikipedia can at least corroborate the armored car bit:
Their later robberies were more effective, including a bank robbery, followed by a series of three armored car robberies. In the armored car robberies, they took a total of $4.1 million, including their final armored car robbery near Ukiah, California that netted them $3.8 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Order_(white_supremacist_group)
Edit: Part of the problem with the podscripts approach may be that the transcripts are far from perfect:
Beam admitted that he had set up computer billet and boards for different fascist groups around the country,but denied that these boards were used for any illicit communication.
“Billet and boards” instead of “bulletin boards”
Edit 2: Ooh, I think I posted the source on Reddit at one point, and I haven’t scorched-earth’d my comments. I wasn’t able to find it doing
site:reddit.com “kibiz0r” armored trucksbut you might find it that way if you experiment a bit.
Tf is hawk tuah?
Hawk tuah (/ˌhɔːk ˈtuːə/ ⓘ HAWK TOO-ə)[a] is an internet meme originating from a viral YouTube video posted in 2024. During a street interview, Haliey Welch used the catchphrase hawk tuah, an onomatopoeia for spitting or expectoration on a penis during oral sex, specifically, fellatio.
Haliey Welch
Did her parents spell her name wrong on the birth certificate and then just run with it?
She is young enough to have been part of the normal name spelled stupid trend that was common in the 90s and 2000s. Which as an aside whoever started that trend needs to be set on fire, if only for the misery they inflicted upon bureaucrats.
I thought Hawk Tuah was a nick name. Nope.
What a scoop NBC!
Hey have you checked out this whole hydroxychloriquine thing? I think there’s something to that! Check it out NBC!
