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      All comes down to $$$

      AOC is fine when she’s getting trotted out on Twitch-Plays-Pokemon to beg for dollars. But actually giving her power? Fuck that. No business interest would ever donate to the party again if they thought she was what they’d be buying into.

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        You’re… not making me say fuck the DNC any less with this comment, I hope you realize.

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          No. But its worth understanding why AOC has survived in her seat longer than Cori Bush or Jamal Bowman did. She’s been following the Sanders entryist playbook, thinking she can eventually get a seat at the table. But every two years, she gets played as a sucker - raising the party a ton of money, then getting stuffed back into the box when her usefulness has passed.

          Bush and Bowman couldn’t bring in that kind of coin, so they’ve been punted from the organization and replaced with more doctrinaire loyalists. AOC gets to hold her seat just so long as she finds enough people to keep bankrolling the consultant fees.

          At some point, she needs to recognize she’s being strung along or she just becomes another part of the problem.

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            Didn’t Harris bring in half a B with non-corporate donations within a few weeks of getting the nomination?

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              non-corporate donations

              She unlocked hundreds of millions from bundlers who’d been sitting on the sidelines due to Biden’s tanking poll numbers. But this was money Biden should have already raised up until Harris entered the race. He just wasn’t in a fit mental state to be phone banking and glad handing the big money, like he’d managed back under the Obama campaigns.

              Biden actually raised $3.2B back in 2020, thanks to his fundraising network. That he and Harris barely got over a billion (a number Obama matched back in 2008) suggests a huge draw back in support over Biden’s four years as president.

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    I’m glad she broke her hip. Genuinely, she deserves worse for constantly sabotaging any efforts to actually represent the working class in the Democratic Party.

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    Pelosi is as bad as Mitch. These corporate backed dinosaurs have no business representing the people.

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    Why the fuck won’t that old bitch just get the fuck out? Her and Feinstein, two fucking peas in a pod. Dragging the entire democratic party down into the dumpster fire that it has become.

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    Remember, Pelosi has a net worth over $200mil.

    “It’s a big club, and she’s in it.”

    Pelosi fucking sucks. AOC for pres.

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      https://apnews.com/article/business-nancy-pelosi-congress-8685e82eb6d6e5b42413417f3d5d6775

      We have no left party in the United States, merely an economically right-wing party to the left of a fascist party, with a few left-wing spoilers like AOC and Sanders that they despise far more than their fascist opposition party, because while Democrats and Republicans rage over social policy, often the symptoms of economic desperation, they drink from the same Wall Street gravy train and take the same orders on economic policy.

      A party actually attempting to reorient our economy based on the needs and priorities of the citizens of our society would be catastrophic to their legalized bribery, and insider info feeding arrangement.

      If you think either party under it’s current form will EVER lead to any form of universal healthcare, you’re deluding yourself.

      The UK has had universal healthcare since 1948. Canada since 1968-1970(provinces rollout)

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        Universal healthcare is not a newly proposed issue, either. Going at least as far back to FDR’s administration, his Secretary of Labor (and architect of The New Deal) Frances Perkins even advocated for public healthcare.

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    this is why democrats will keep on losing. Aggressive campaigning against progressives. That’s how they tanked Berny who had a real shot at trump at the time. They have mothballed trump indictments when they’ve had a chance to impeach him, they have gagged them this campaign and result is for everyone to see… Pelosi is a very mean and very capable machine of destryction when it comes to progressives and their ideas

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      No fucking lie. Democrats scrap like alley cats while liberals clutch their pearls viewing GOP hypocrisy. They stick together, no matter what, and they win.

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      none of the contemporary democrats have experience fighting fascists.

      usually because they don’t recognize their financial advisors as being fascists

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    “I’m probably going to die before my term is over, but I need to ratfuck the next generation of politicians so fascists get even more chance at fucking over more Americans.”

    Might as well just vote yes on everything Trump says, Pelosi.

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    Oh, an old guy, super surprised. But yeah if you haven’t seen the other committee seat fights; there is a real fight going on right now for the future of the Democratic Party. The committee seats are probably the most outward expression of it.

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    No surprise there.

    Establishment Democrats would rather have power held by Republicans than by progressive Democrats.

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      And AOC has been kowtowing to Pelosi for the last few years in hopes of going along to get along. Hopefully this will wake up progressive Democrats to realize they will never be accepted by corporate Democrats, no matter how much they move to the right to appease them.