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    “For my Republican colleagues in the House and Senate, If we are going to release ethics reports and rip apart our own that Trump has appointed, then put it ALL out there for the American people to see. Yes… all the ethics reports and claims including the one I filed, all your sexual harassment and assault claims that were secretly settled paying off victims with tax payer money, the entire Jeffrey Epstein files, tapes, recordings, witness interviews. But not just those, there’s more, Epstein wasn’t/isn’t the only asset. If we’re going to dance, let’s all dance in the sunlight. I’ll make sure we do,” the lawmaker said in a post on X.

    Interesting, she’s going the Madison Crawthorn route. Remember what happened to him? They dished up all the dirt they could find on him and hung him out to dry. This sounds noble of her, but she’s using this as a threat to try to force them not to go after Gaetz, her pedophile buddy.

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    I don’t think this is as stupid as it sounds. With some exceptions Democratic voters tend to punish their representatives for corruption, but republican voters never do

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      So you’re saying she’s betting that while republicans will have significantly more corruption, democrats will be the only ones punished because their voter base is the only one that actually cares? Honestly, you could very well be right about the result of a hypothetical universal ethic report release, though I’d be surprised if MTG was smart enough to think 2 steps ahead like that.

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        The Republicans control the process to determine who gets punished.

        So MTG is taking her shot to be Joe McCarthy.

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      I’m shocked and slightly sickened that trollish dipshit is suggesting something I agree with. I think I need a shower now.

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    Does anyone remember back when President Bill Clinton was in office ? FOIA was an amazing moment in American politics.

    Now they judges, presidents, congresscritters, and cops just say, “Nah it is too dangerous for citizens to see the government’s work.”

    What is that ? What the fuck is that ?

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      I don’t care if they are Republican or Democrat. If they are criminals, they should go to jail. Release the Epstein files and send Bill and Trump to jail.

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        Thats the thing I don’t think they get.

        “Ok, well our guy will go to jail, but so will yours!!!”

        “That’s fine.”

        “But then we BOTH lose!”

        “This isn’t a MAD doctrine situation. This is supposed to be more like a scorched earth situation. No corruption left behind.”

        And I don’t think they grasp that.

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          What they don’t grasp is that we’d send our guy to jail: because they won’t.

          That’s the difference.

          When a corrupt democrat is exposed they’re expelled (bye bye Cuomo)

          When a corrupt republican is exposed they’re re-elected.

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        Bill was lended Epstein’s plane one time to a regular AIDs relief tour in Africa.

        Trump has been on his plane many times, but more importantly called him a friend and went to his island. Many times.

        You sound as crazy as the people calling Stephen Hawking a kid diddler when you say stuff like that. You, like the majority of Americans, seem to have no fucking clue what actually happens around them.

        But yes, I agree, release the reports and send people who broke the law to prison.

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      Just make them all public all the time! That’ll show those fucking libs.

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      Holy shit I agree with MTG

      Harambe truly was this universe’s anchor being, and the decay is increasing exponentially

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        Wow…having seen almost NONE of the other Marvel movies, I walked out of Deadpool vs Wolferine just kind of confused. Not by the plot, that was simple as shit. It was insultingly simple.

        The part that confused me was “WHO IS DEMANDING THIS MOVIE???”. I don’t watch a lot of movies, but the ones I do watch I like to make “worth it”. And everybody was going on and on and on about how great this movie was going to be once it came out. And then…

        Ok, imagine going to this movie, without ANY concept about who these cameos are, who a LOT of the characters are supposed to even be, and without having seen a single previous deadpool or x-men movie before.

        Yeah, movie kind of sucks now, doesn’t it?

        But…silver lining…at least I was able to get the joke of a Lemmy post months after the fact.

        …yeah, I still want my $12 back.

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          Nah it was great, but it was a love letter to people who had watched every previous Deadpool and all the old Marvel movies. It wasn’t meant to be an entry into the universe. I can understand why you didn’t like it having not seen the previous, but it just wasn’t made for you.

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      I’m kinda with you… Like, let them fight?

      I think she meant this as a threat to get the party in line, but i can’t see any way this doesn’t blow up in their faces. If the leopards are eating leopard faces, will they notice mine…?

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    This argument reveals that she thinks both sides are playing the same game. Progressives don’t support corrupt leaders. MTG does.

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          She’s not the best, but she’s not the worst. Her biggest crime is what, using insider knowledge to trade stocks?

          It’s not like she gave a list of our spies to the Russians. Or likely sold classified documents. She didn’t betray our allies. (Do I mean the Ukrainians, the Afghanis, or the Kurds?)

          She was miles better than Manchin or McConnell. She wasn’t our best, but she sure as hell wasn’t a Republican. She got vilified primarily because she was a prominent Democrat for years. And it stuck because there was more than zero legitimacy.

          They vilified her so much that some douchebag went after her and her husband with a hammer. There’s a reason they didn’t go after Manchin or Sinema or Menendez or McConnell or Gaetz.

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          Ugh… I don’t really want to be that guy, but she was well liked when she was first in office. In fact, I dare say she was cool once when she advocated for more AIDS support in the late 80s and pissed off Reagan, which is always good. But that was around when I was born, haha.

          Unfortunately House seats rarely see competition, and I’m certain she grew complacent with age. Almost 40 fucking years, oof.

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          I don’t know why anyone likes neoliberals.

          She’s a model one.

          https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/16/nancy-pelosi-federal-lawmakers-should-be-able-to-trade-stock.html

          I vote blue with my nose held as always for harm reduction, but neoliberals like Pelosi are why so many actual leftwing people that want a society walked away, they have no party that isnt enthusiastically part of the root problem of maintaining crony market capitalism at society’s catastrophic expense.

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            I guess they just want to be in charge for no other reason? Not really sure what their game is, but they’ll follow the money to get elected and then do what their donors wanted them to do. Then??? I’m not really understanding what they have to gain other than insider information.

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              Then???

              Profit. That’s pretty much it. Why does anyone seek excess power in a capitalist society? Personal wealth gain. That insider info allows them to make their winning stock trades, and the “perks” they receive from their high offices (think private jet travel, free meals, tickets to events, etc) ensure that their expenses are kept at a minimum. Their lavish lifestyles while we struggle, and the fact that they could help resolve society’s problems yet don’t to keep the status quo, is the epitome of “fuck you, I got mine.”

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                I don’t really understand how it’s a lavish lifestyle if you have to hang out with a bunch of politicians and business people all the time. That sounds like pure hell to me. Like you’re going to hang out with the vice president of East Coast sales for some manufacturing company or some shit, no thanks.

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                  It’s like that movie, The Mask (and it’s like that for the rest of us, too): the more times you put it on and the longer you wear it, the more you meld into it and the mask into you.

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                  Yeah but some people get off on it, like that being in the company of the rich and powerful increases their social stock (in their own insular world), and some thrive on that type of stuff.

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                  I think that’s partially why the well connected and famous billionaires are such miserable assholes. Their lives really aren’t that great because they’re all uninteresting losers surrounded by uninteresting losers who sold their souls for money and power and spend decades between having any moments of real joy.

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              Are you American?

              I only ask because Americans are trained from birth to know (through for profit media and oligarch captured public education) that money is the alpha and the omega, the beginning and end, and the very meaning of existence and life itself as its own end.

              It’s why we’re a bunch of rugged individuals competing against one another for oligarch scraps and not a society. It’s the wedge that informs all others to keep their exploited capital batteries at war with each other instead of looking up at the greedy bastards running up their ego scores by burning us.

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                Yeah, but I don’t really care what other people think of me, so I don’t feel the need to have to have a ton of money just to impress other people. Though having more money is always helpful just to make things easier in life. I’d be much happier if I didn’t have to worry about paying for things like healthcare and education.

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                  Yeah, but I don’t really care what other people think of me, so I don’t feel the need to have to have a ton of money just to impress other people.

                  I’m sure most of these politicians also don’t care what other people think of them which is why it’s so easy for them to do all this vile shit and stand in front of a national audience telling complete lies with a straight face. They aren’t doing it to gain approval from other people, they’re doing it because they’re following their own concept of what an impressive person does.

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                  Congratulations, you bucked the overwhelming norm. People who make it to Congress, with the exception of spoilers, have proven to their respective parties through state elections that they love money, don’t get bored of getting moar money, and know how to get it. That’s how you get promoted in the parties. It’s all they care about.

                  Because our values are so far beyond fucked it’s almost funny in an absurdist humor kind of way.

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          I can tell you, that i truly and honestly think that Nancy Pelosi is the greatest! She’s never wrong about anything, and I’m totally not eating my own vomit as i type this!

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      Magic the Gathering supports a lot of things. I don’t know if it supports this; I’ll ask.

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      Or it reveals an intention by the republicans to release a flood of bad faith ethics reports on Democrats

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        Oh no, republicans released the kraken.

        Oh wait, nevermind, it looks like trump just scribbled with some crayon. And the occasional sharpie

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    The amount of cognitive dissonance I got from reading something MTG said that I actually agree with was nuts

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      I read her comment and instantly thought “Wait… am I on the wrong side of this issue?” Now I’m wondering who she filed against.

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      Her arrival at the correct answer was done through a series of mental lapses, poor judgements and terrible ideas that plopped her exactly where she should be. Like watching an episode of Mr Magoo.

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      I feel you. I have this new super bitch of a boss, but she wore cute pants one day in September and it left me conflicted. I’m still pissed off about it.

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      Bruh I literally just told my husband “Fuck MTG for saying something that makes me agree with MTG!” due to this story.

      Ill recover if Congress actually takes her up on it though.