Summary
Project 2025, a manifesto supported by the conservative Heritage Foundation, calls for a ban on pornography, labeling its purveyors as criminals and advocating for strict penalties, including jail time for producers and registered sex offender status for educators distributing it.
The manifesto argues that porn lacks First Amendment protection, framing it as harmful and exploitative.
With a right-leaning Supreme Court, proponents aim to overturn existing protections established in Miller v. California, potentially impacting mainstream media.
Donald Trump has pledged to bring Project 2025 contributors onto his team.
The porn ban will just be the excuse they use to crack down on VPNs so they can implement a full on Chinese style internet censorship program.
Goof luck for the companies depending on VPNs…but hey, Donnie’s going to crash the economy anyway, so why fret.
People who voted for Trump after he won:
The same people after he declare porn illegal.
I guess I gotta do my part and jack off twice a day or more to get the best of the porn we still have.
Good luck! Literally all his fan base are probably rabid porn junkies.
Ironically, they’re also significantly more likely to watch transgender porn. People are weird and stupid.
I mean invest in VPN stocks then?
Your provider knows what you’re getting, and Pornhub is based in the US.
Hey look, someone has no idea how a VPN works!
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I do, in fact, but feel free to believe what you want.
Obviously not lol
Duuuuhhhhh it’s encrypted when it goes through the magic Internet tubes from the servers owned by the same fucking capitalists that own the ISPs, and, some might hazard, state honeypot programs, how will they know???
The ads told me this product would protect my privacy for $9.99 a month! They can’t lie in those!
Sit down Billy Madison, you’re embarrassing yourself.
Proved my point (in many more words then necessary, to boot) 👍
Nope. It’s owned by Canadian Aylo
My b, I stand corrected.
Pornhub will live until the Canadian elections.
lol, no they don’t and lol, no they aren’t.
I hope they actually do it. This is like the abortion issue, if they actually go through with it people will be like “What?? How could this happen??”
Considering the countrybas a whole didn’t learn from 2016, there is absolutely no way anything would change.
2016 was different because Hillary was genuinely unlikable. This time we have no excuse
Did you wipe the server?
Like with a towel?
That did really annoyed me.
Sad part is I could see Trump said he wiped it and it would change no vote.
And then 2 years pass, and they have completely who banned porn, and why it’s the mistake of Democrats.
You a word
bUt ThE eCoNoMy…
First president to make pictures of his current wife illegal
Doesn’t this proposal also make anyone who participates in the production of porn into a criminal?
Is the first Lady going to get arrested for her involvement in the creation of porn?
Historically, you can’t be charged for crimes you committed before the law criminalizing them was passed. However, precedence and fair application of the law have lost all meaning so you could be arrested, but she wouldn’t.
Sick burn 🔥
First president to have actual nude photos of his wife available.
If any other president, especially a Democrat, had nudes of their wife it would be a scandal.
But America is so beholden to these idiots that it doesn’t even matter to anyone.
There are lots of things they do that’re scandalous. That’s not one of them. There’s already enough puritanical bullshit fucking up the US. It’s about time some of it were left in the past.
Remember when the right had a meltdown over Michelle Obama’s bare arms.
isn’t that her second amendment right though?
Calling out hypocrisy isn’t puritanical.
But America is so beholden to these idiots that it doesn’t even matter to anyone.
That’s not calling out hypocrisy. That’s saying people should care.
One might argue that it’s the opposite.
Historically speaking people have two things they riot for, safety and comfort. How that comfort manifest varies but pornography is definitely on the same level as whiskey, and the United states has had a rebellion on that.
THE GOONER REBELLION, WOOOOO!
YOU CAN HAVE MY PORNHUB ACCOUNT WHEN YOU PRY IT FROM MY COLD, DEAD PENIS!
Unironically yes.
And somehow we just elected a guy who has no qualms with turning the military and the police on its own citizens despite legal doctrine.
Well luckily the military has a good chance of not listening to him, atleast in my opinion. The police on the other hand are more of a threat, though not an insurmountable one.
The liberal officers are going to resign in protest then pat themselves on the back and call it integrity.
Then the fascists are going to follow orders.
Luckily the chain of command helps dilute the worst of this type of effect. As I understand it most orders will have to go through the folks at the Pentagon first and they could very well just say no or otherwise pull some malicious compliance.
Reminder the military has a more or less parallel system to the civil system. Its entirely possible they may just decide to separate themselves more or less.
I am so fucking tired of Lemmy living in an alternate reality where liberal leadership will somehow magically get its shit together when it matters, like this hasn’t been a completely predictable trend over decades, where Someone Important will fucking Do Something.
I live in an area with veterans and its a bit more of a mixed bag. Most of them are dissolutioned with the system, its not that they dont have political leanings they just hate both. The ones who are politically active are usually lowd and dumb as fuck Republicans, the JD Vance type. The few I met who were commissioned officers were fucking feral and had nothing good to say about the right.
Remember the split in the veterans will be based broadly on education similar to the general public. And frankly speaking the actual folks at the Pentagon are pretty well educated.
Also I will happily admit that this is me hoping for a somewhat workable scenario. Im Californian which means I am in the perfectly cooked chicken zone of this soon to be nuclear blast, watching a bunch of mush brained dipshits play with the nuke. I practically cant do fuck all.
Good thing we spent the last 25 years giving the police surplus military equipment.
Honestly a good amount of that shit is of questionable function, reminder most of the good shit is going to the national guard first. The police are at best using old ass NVG and optics, maybe they have a functional IFV but itll be of questionable maintenance. My local police department gave up and just has the Sheriff department do anything that requires more than a rifle, mostly cause the mechanics refused to work on the humvee they got.
Also the police arent exactly trained for an actual resistance movement, itll be likely a more embarrassing version of the union and county wars.
That scares me more, honestly. The police riding around in a malfunctioning APC…
Honestly fhe worst that can happen is the engine decides its in fact a fire pit. Otherwise it will just be a boring ass breakdown, transmission failure is pretty common in military vehicles as a general rule. Reminder the US military is a logistics network with an army meaning that just cause they can keep a vehicle running doesnt mean even the oversized budget of LAPD can.
registered sex offender status for educators distributing it
If a book in your classroom or school library has anything beyond a heterosexual peck on the cheek, congratulations, you’re now a sex offender. Not a joke.
Oh boy, I can’t wait for abstinance to be taught as the only form of sexual education in America.
That was mine… In the early 00s. And again with a guest speaker… In my advanced marketing class… In the late 00s. I will never forget how that lady sat on a desk, explaining with vivid, passionate excitement and lust, how waiting for your life partner to be your first time is, moans and quivers, so good~
The fuck, Smith, I thought we were going to fuck around and watch movies while you go “make some copies” only to never return, like every other day. The fuck is this shit. Even your own kid in this class is visibly distraught and confused. Poor guy is fucking scarred for life.
In my school in the Bible belt that was primarily what they focused on. I don’t remember much time being given to condoms. I certainly don’t remember ever being given one or shown how to use it (not that it’s that difficult or anything, but still).
But what I do remember is a speaker coming to our school to talk to us about how he had sex outside of marriage and got a girl pregnant, but he did the right thing and got married. Also, and I cannot stress this enough, he described this as abstaining because he married the person he had sex with.
I’m expecting them to go even further, and just stop doing sex education period.
When the schools close, I guess everybody has to go to Christian school now! No sex education at all, please!
Well fuck as a published writer who has gsy characters in my books does that mean I will be labeled under this?
Absolutely. The handmaids will rip you to pieces in a public execution.
We’re back to 1920s. Mafia will bootleg porn from Mexico and Canada.
And of course they will use it as an excuse to implement complete surveillance on all your devices.
Excellent - maybe we will all kick our* cell phone addiction
Least important effect of a Trump presidency - but I’m sure if he did this it’d be the straw that broke the camel’s back for Gen Z Trumpers.
Nah, genZ are apparently prudes. They have less sex and apparently don’t like fan service in media. Puritanism and teetotaling is the new counterculture.
Not least important when you think about how they define “porn”
Nope, still pretty unimportant.
I’m pretty sex positive and pro-porn myself but compared to deporting legal immigrants with the wrong skin color or forcing motherhood on unconsenting women it’s pretty unimportant.
Also like… destroying our entire government bureaucracy.
The one thing this election has all but confirmed for me is that over half of the country supports these things unabashedly, and I highly doubt porn will be the hero that magically changes these people. It’s already banned in multiple conservative states, and all of them just voted red again.
Honestly, I believe that if the Trump admin brought back prohibition, his bootlickers would be the first in line telling us how it’s the best idea ever.
brought back prohibition
Don’t even joke about that.
He wouldn’t do it. There’s too much money being made there to already wealthy people that support him. I could see him threatening and blackmailing to get a piece of the pie though.
Then maybe they should have known that Project 2025 called for that before they decided to vote for Trump.
Violence against women is about to skyrocket when the incels can’t get a date because they’re too repulsive and can’t watch porn to take out their sexual frustrations because of what they voted for.
Then maybe they should have known that Project 2025 called for that before they decided to vote for Trump.
Those kids would be very angry if they could read
Hilarious. As if this could ever actually be instituted nationwide. Regulations on sale and access maybe, but moral crusades like this are perpetually doomed to failure, much like the War on Drugs.
Doesn’t mean they won’t try, won’t posture, won’t grandstand about it, but to actually succeed in this goal when over 50% of the populace isn’t going to be behind it? I guess we’ll just have to watch them try.
No, but they can go after the owners and operators of major porn sites and have them shut down (and possibly executing them). Then the subsequent chilling effect that will occur, making sure nobody dares try to take their place.
You could probably use a VPN and find stuff, but say goodbye to pornhub, youporn, xvideos, etc. And in certain states they will probably make accessing it illegal (or simply using a VPN at all. And no, it will not matter that they’re legitimately needed for all sorts of legal shit, it’ll be used at the government’s discretion (which means singling out people who are using it to access porn. Until it isn’t, and they use it for whatever they want because they are the law).
This is what fascism is. People really don’t seem to grasp this. We need to stop viewing he world from this current paradigm, because come January 20, this nation will become unrecognizable.
The war on drugs only failed if you truly believe its goal was getting rid of drugs.
To quote John Erlichman, one of its architects:
“The Nixon Campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar Left, and Black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black. But by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
By the strandards of what it was created to do, the war on drugs was fantastically successful.
The war on porn will be successful in exactly the same way, because Republicans have already spent decades redefining all LGBTQ content as “pornographic”. This is will be a tool for disrupting queer and trans communities, for erasing queer and trans resources and tearing down queer and trans rights activists. Stopping porn isn’t the point, and it never was.
Oooof, too true
They don’t care about total enforcement. They’ll just use it against their enemies and people they want to take down while protecting their own. Rules for thee etc
This is what people don’t seem to grasp about fascism… It doesn’t matter. None of the rules or social mores that you’ve known since you were born will matter anymore.
People need to read some history books, this has happened before. We aren’t special, it is already happening here.
Strange comparison. The war on drugs wrecked so many lives, and hasn’t really ended, just cooled off a little. I don’t see that as a cause for optimism.
It’s meant as a comparison in terms of Moral Crusades via Prohibition tactics. I have a feeling that a “ban” on pornography will likely end the same way, with hyperbolic responses and lives disrupted to no positive resolutions. But it really seems untenable as a concept, that genie is so far out of the bottle that there is no bottle anymore; only the whole entire internet
Literally the last thing I’m worried about in this presidency.
I am not a fan of porn. I find it problematic. But fucking get real, no one’s banning porn. Everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket. These fucking idiots, I hope they all have painful and protracted aneurysms.
When will people realize that none of that shit matters anymore. They absolutely will ban it, and they will selectively enforce the ban.
That’s how fascism works. There’s no, “but the people will be upset”. Yeah no shit that’s the point.
Pot is illegal, and everyone is high, but a cop could make an example out of anyone any time in an illegal state.
Same scenario.
GOP is the party of rules for thee not for me. The leadership are all disgustingly wealthy so they can easily fly their mistresses to another country for abortions, drug fueled sex parties, etc…
No, you dont get it. They want to do it precisely because everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket, and they can selectively enforce what gets prosecuted. Who wants to bet they go after the gay “porn” first? (And by porn, I mean “picture of two men kissing”)
Exactly. This will be just like the “war on drugs” - something to weaponize against groups they don’t like.
I don’t think even the war on drugs is a strong enough comparison. I don’t think we have anything in our nation’s history that will compare to the transformation that will occur come January 20.
The nation will become unrecognizable. This paradigm of, “we need good candidates,” and, “the Democrats need to pander more to the left” shit will cease to exist, because fair elections will cease to exist. Political parties will be declared terrorist organizations, and many people will likely be executed (or at the very least, imprisoned for a very long time, simply for identifying as a Democrat).
There is no analogy for this. Not in US history at least…
Everyone has a porn-producing camera in their pocket.
One corollary is that it’d probably make a little easier for law enforcement/government agencies to subpoena ISPs or snoop around in phones looking for things that aren’t porn. Realistically probably won’t happen but I bet this is a cop’s wet dream similar to ‘distinct smell of marijuana’. Plausible deniability is big brother’s best friend
Again, at the risk of repeating myself: they will not need subpoenas dude. That’s not how fascism works. The corporations will become an arm of the government, to be used at the whim of its sole leader, or they will be eliminated.
This has happened before.
People are still talking as if things will just continue as normal, and there will be rule of law that is in any way fair. Please wake up, people.
Any good fascist state at the bare minimum busts out the rubber stamps and pretends that there is fiduciary responsibility and due process, and delegates down until there is plausible deniability. Russia, they still have elections, fake as fuck, cooking the books, but Putin is too busy to concern himself with the local level minutae. When some reporter has an exposé it must be some rogue civil servant, nobody has any clue, and it’s always an isolated incident. Couple months later reporter gets taken care of.
Gotta spread like cancer, not charge in like a bull, unless you’re doing it coup. If everyone drops the suspension of disbelief and you can’t strong arm them you’re kinda fucked. Give them a show so the people who backed you in the first place continue to back you. If they’re dumb enough they’ll defend all this phony shit while you consolidate until it’s really fucking obvious everything is set up
