• taiyang@lemmy.world
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    She’s just trying to avoid Hillary’s deplorables comment. It’s true, of course, and you should absolutely cut those people from you life, but it was misconstrued and so could this.

    Although, Kamala really wants a “Not all Republicans” message, so there’s that too. No use alienating those snowflakes so close to Election Day.

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    Isn’t how somebody votes one of the only things you can ethically criticize someone for?

    Like, people often treat their party like it’s part of their tribe, but it’s not like you’re born into it. It’s not the same thing as race, colour, creed, gender, orientation, or any other prohibited grounds.

    Voting is exercising a choice. If you can’t criticize someone because of the choices they make, what can you criticize them for?

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      She literally just called Trump a fascist. But like, I guess supporting fascists is like just one of those “agree to disagree” matters that shouldn’t be held against someone? They can still be good people who just want mass deportations, military tribunals of political enemies, and for trans people to just cease to exist.

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    If she honestly believes that she’s an idiot, and if she doesn’t she’s way too comfortable with lying to the American people about important issues. The truth of the matter is that if a person has supported the Republican party in the last five decades they are dangerous garbage, and unless they’re willing to put in the work to recycle themselves into something more positive we need to contain them and have their toxicity diluted to the point where it can’t hurt anyone, just like we would with any other waste. Elected Dems ignoring this difficult but painfully obvious truth is why our politics have kept getting worse as the Republicans have gotten crazier and faced no consequences for it.

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      I agree, but following with the “garbage” comment also feeds into the Republicans sense of somehow being both the greatest and the victims.

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      You can only achieve a fair and civil society through fairness and civility. That is what (most of) the democrats have been working on for the last 50 years.

      It’s always tempting to think that you could “defeat” evil through violence, repression, suppression, and exclusion. Instead, you only become it.

      edit: I really don’t mean to lecture here. I wrote this because I saw myself in the comment I replied to, and I needed to remind myself to be kind.

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        I mean, our country was founded through a bunch of people getting really uncivil and violent. Sure, it still needed - and still needs - a lot of improvement to be fair for everyone who wasn’t part of the “in-group,” but the same could be said for most countries at the time ours was founded.

        I certainly don’t believe that it’s necessary to be uncivil and violent to achieve a fair and civil society, but it has shown past success at ridding a country of leaders who don’t have the people’s best interests at heart.

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          The rest of Britain became democratic without violence. I’m not convinced that the revolution was necessary to throw off the oppressors. I think it was more about protecting the wealthy in the colonies.

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            Again, it’s not necessary, but it did work. I hope we can resolve the issues in our country democratically, but I’m mentally preparing myself for the violence that will inevitably follow if that doesn’t work. If our country falls to fascism, it’ll take a real fight to get it back.

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              I don’t agree that it worked. Regular folk in the US have a modicum of rights now, none of which can be attributed to the revolution.