No video released yet but the right wing blog-sphere is already claiming it’s AI. Put on your seat-belts and keep your hands inside the car at all times.

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    Maybe there’s a video, maybe there’s not.

    But nobody is saying “No way! Trump would never do that!” or “This is a shocking scandal that nobody would have believed!”

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      That’s the sad reality of it. The sadder part is that, even if it’s true, his cult still won’t care.

      And, of course, the minor being groped won’t see any justice.

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        And, of course, the minor being groped won’t see any justice.

        Not only that, she’ll get death threats.

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      I grabbed her titty. She asked me too. With a tear in her eye she said please please please Mr. Trump touch my titty. I obligated. I couldn’t help it. I had to. She was so innocent. It was a perfect titty touch.

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        “When it comes to fondling tits, everyone tells me I’m the best - that’s what they all tell me. I can’t help it - I see a beautiful woman and I have to do it, and they let me, you know, because I’m famous and they love it, they’ll let you do whatever you want. My friend Jeffrey Epstein always said that, and boy we had a lot of fun, he really knew how to find em, the greatest most beautiful young women, whenever we wanted we’d grab em and kiss em and anything else, though none of them could compare to my beautiful Ivanka… anyway Alexa play Ave Maria”

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      As hard as it is to listen to talk radio it’s also kind of fun to catch the nuances in their bullshit. Someone accuses Trump of praising Hitler and immediately they say, “Wow! This is such a desperate play from the Democrats!”

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      I hate the man and I’m saying I don’t think he’s this stupid. He wants to get re-elected too much to do something so reckless.

      Has he assaulted other women? No fucking doubt. But not two weeks from the election at a campaign event with a ton of reporters around him. It’s not believable.

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    You are about to see insanely desperate stuff from Democrats. Expect fake AI generated crap about Trump coming soon. Stay focused AND VOTE!

    -Charlie Kirk

    Hasn’t even seen the video, but already dismissing it as AI. Anything that the right doesn’t like is fake.

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    Why would they tease it and not release it? Where does this claim even come from? The article just says the sources are “Several social media users, including commentators and reporters”. Then it seems like all the people tweeting about it are right wingers. I’m suspicious. Could be a distraction from the more credible stories about Trump loving Hitler and shitting on a slain soldier for having an expensive funeral for a Mexican.

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      It would be a wild choice for a distraction. The rumors claim that the person with the video is shopping it around. They want a payday before they give the video to anyone. Sadly, that means that a deep-pocketed Trump ally could do a catch and kill and never release it.

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    As someone who had to sit through a seemingly unending stream of videos of Biden sniffing hair etc, none of which were as damning as the people boosting them claimed, I really hope they either don’t release this, or it actually is what it claims to be, not some similar crap.

    “Donald Trump loses his balance and accidentally makes contact with a girl’s butt” or similar ambiguous clip is probably not going to do anything except make me have to start ignoring videos of Biden sniffing hair again when magas start posting them in retaliation or whatever.

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      I loved the Biden sniffing hair videos!! They were so creepy but also funny. I was hoping he would keep doing it after he was president lol.

      I also voted for Joe biden. Only because of the sniffing actually lol

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      Same with “Trump speaks slowly and closes his eyes for a couple seconds” being paraded around as him being ‘exhausted’ or even ‘sundowning’.

      None of it could possibly sway voters, it’s just to make the voting base feel good about their choice of support.

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        “Closes his eyes for a couple seconds”? Yeah, Trump spending a half hour of his rally walking the stage aimlessly to music was probably just his whimsical side, not a sign that his mind is anything less than razor-sharp. Libs these days will exaggerate ANYTHING!

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          Even if he was dead on his feet, how does that change anything? The only people who care about the optics of it are libs who already find him gross and disturbed… It makes dems feel better about their candidate’s chances (“look, he’s tired and on the ropes, give him the haymaker!”). If anything, him being a tired sleepy old man undercuts their message that he’s a vindictive and dangerous fascist who’s losing touch with reality. It wouldn’t surprise me if his change in demeanor is an intentional choice to make him look more chill and reasonable.

          You hear how republicans reacted to that town hall? They fucking loved it, they talk about it like it was a birthright trip or something.

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            Yes I agree it won’t change anything. Everybody is pretty much decided at this point, and the whole neck-and-neck race thing is basically clickbait for ads.

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              It was neck-and-neck according to the polling in 2020 too and as unenthused as most of us were about Biden, he fucking smoked him even in the EC

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                People might not have been enthused about Biden in 2020, but there was at least some hope for him after the extremely progressive primary campaign.

                There’s none of that hope or excitement for this year - there was no primary to push Harris to run on progressive issues. If there’s any election that bears a resemblance to this year, it’s 2016, not 2020

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              the whole neck-and-neck race thing is basically clickbait for ads.

              Yea, I kinda hate that attitude, too, honestly. True enough that polls are already like trying to read tea-leaves, and there’s ample motivation to play games with the results to skew a particular way. But people tend to apply that analysis selectively so that they don’t have to confront the possibility their candidate/political calculations aren’t popular. When our media circles are being blasted with petty reporting about one candidate or the other taking a dookey on stage or whatever-the-fuck, it becomes increasingly difficult to keep expectations reasonably close to reality because you’re ignoring about half the signs and granting too much weight to the signs you actually do see.

              The race is neck-and-neck, by just about any reasonable projection. But the margin of error is something like ±3/4%, and that’s assuming a healthy sample and is just a snapshot that is still weeks away from election day. A poll on the day of the election that has Harris -1 in Michigan could end up being Trump +3 or vice-versa, and that’s completely within the margin for that poll.

              But if you’re not even hearing what’s being said on the opposite end of the spectrum, let alone actually trying to understand what’s being said, then you’re gonna be completely taken for a ride come nov 6. For 6 months after the election, analysts and most Americans will be scratching their heads trying to understand what happened (win or lose) because people just have no idea what the other half of the country is actually feeling. And when people are sure they had it right, and then have those expectations flipped on the day, that’s when you get people storming the capital or spending years prosecuting foreign interference that was completely out in the open the whole time.

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                I appreciate and agree with most of your post, but I disagree that we are all so disconnected from each other’s feelings. Perhaps it’s a regional thing, but many of us have relatives, if not friends, who deeply disagree with our politics. We not only get exposed to the others’ views through social interactions, but we also absorb any political media they have on in the background on holidays and other get-togethers. Some of us also want to understand what the other end of the spectrum is exposed to and seek out some content from these sources for a variety of different reasons.

                I don’t understand the mindset and thinking of people in my life that are so far on the other side when it comes to these issues, but I don’t write them off or feel disgusted by them as people unless and until they start promoting hate speech in most cases.

                I’m also not experiencing any delusions about inevitable outcomes on election day. I’m preparing for either reality, but I’m more actively preparing myself for the opposite outcome of what I’m hoping for. Lemmy does a great job of reminding me how possible this is in comment sections every day.

                I’m doing what I can by helping and encouraging friends, coworkers, and my partner to vote. He even requested an absentee ballot after months of telling me he wasn’t going to vote. I didn’t push, and I don’t consume most news media when we’re together. He has just had a harder time ignoring the evidence of his eyes and ears lately.

                Nothing is decided. If we care at all about not feeling the gut punch that was November 9th of 2016, if not worse, then we should do what we can to prevent that from happening again.

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                  We not only get exposed to the others’ views through social interactions, but we also absorb any political media they have on in the background on holidays and other get-togethers.

                  Maybe it is regional… But my experience has been that it is just one “side” that are the type to play cable news in the background of holidays and family get togethers.

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                  We don’t experience the same media onslaught as they do. We might hear their perspective from talking to them, but we don’t understand the extent of the warped reality they experience, and we don’t understand how the same news events get communicated to them very differently.

                  Just looking through the reporting shared here, you get the distinct feeling that Trump is on the decline and he’s in big trouble. But any other media environment paints an extremely different picture - and any alarm or skepticism raised here in the comments is not very well received. The polls that show trump extending leads in swing states are suddenly not at all unbelievable once you anonymize your internet browsing and see what’s being presented to the median american.

                  I’m just commenting on what I see. The vibe here feels very similar to 2016, and I’m bracing myself for the media collapse that happens the day after.

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            Being a tried sleepy old man doesn’t prevent one from being a dangerous fascist. Source prior dangerous fascists who continued to be so long after they got old.

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              Of course not, but people don’t think of tired sleepy old men as dangerous fascists.

              The optics are mutually exclusive, even if the qualities themselves aren’t.

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              I agree with you, but you seem to be confusing optics bullshit for the base with anything remotely resembling rationale

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        Bro he can’t hold a plastic water bottle with one hand, he’s definitely sundowning even if the claims about those clips are (pardon the pun) trumped-up

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          The more you amplify ordinary behavior as somehow exceptional, the less people will actually listen to the exceptional behavior.

          There’s an endless stream of videos hyper-analyzing footage of Harris or Biden doing ordinary things, making them seem like egregious examples of derangement or ill-health. It’s what the conservative base is exceedingly good at.

          It’s far more effective to make fun of them as obsessive weirdos than engage in the same petty psychoanalytic rhetoric as they do. The latter isn’t going to move any voters and is only going to excite the weirdos on the other side.

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      Riley: Oh, yes, the victim! At what point does personal responsibility become a factor in this equation?

      Dubois: I don’t think that’s–

      Riley: I see piss coming, I move.

      Huey: mmm

      Riley: She saw piss coming, she stayed.

      Dubois: Yes, she did, but–

      Riley: And why should I have to miss out on the next R. Kelly album! Just for that?!

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            It’s become relevant again as a fringe group of people are defending their favorites that got implicated in the diddy parties. At least this time it seems like much less people are on the offenders side, but maybe thats because there are so many offenders that the misplaced support is more distributed than when it was just R Kelly or just Bill Cosby.

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      Oh no, they don’t forgive. They don’t allow it to get that far. They ignore the crime completely and will tell you it straight up never happened

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      They’re the party of “PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE KILLED, DEAD PEDOPHILES CAN’T REOFFEND, I HUNT PEDOPHILES, AND IT’S TOTALLY NORMAL AND NOT PROJECTION THAT I’VE MADE THIS MY ENTIRE IDENTITY.” Which is effectively the same thing but is slightly different.

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        PEDOPHILES SHOULD BE KILLED, DEAD PEDOPHILES CAN’T REOFFEND, I HUNT PEDOPHILES

        Always weirds me the fuck out when I see this stuff. Like, my dude, pedophiles are quite universally reviled, even amongst hardcore criminals, why the hell do you feel the need to loudly signal this ?

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    He could eat then punt a baby on video and maga cultist wouldn’t care.

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        Yes, it makes no logical sense in this physical realm… and they still won’t question it

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          Pff. Who brought the new guy right? It’s getting to the point you can’t have Sunday afternoon baby BBQ and skull football game anymore. Whats happened to us these last few years?

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            Because satire tends to be lost on conservatives nowadays:

            The above comments are SATIRE, meaning we are JOKING and DO NOT bbq, eat, or punt babies, because killing babies is BAD.

            And before some smartass points to abortion rights as “killing babies,” well you’ll be shocked to hear that adding restrictions to reproductive care actually INCREASES infant mortality (which means more babies die, which is BAD).

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          Clearly you don’t eat babies! The whole point of eating babies is the skull comes apart.

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      It isn’t, in fact despite the video not being released it’s already being “debunked” as AI on Far Right websites.

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    I’d like to see the video first. Claims of a video are pretty meaningless. It’s a lot like saying you have a concept of a plan.

    Nevertheless, I hope it’s not fucking true, because if it is true, that means some poor woman was victimized, will probably never get to see any justice because the legal system refuses to hold Trump accountable for anything, and it won’t move the needle an inch in terms of the blind deference Republicans give to Trump.

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      Child. Some poor child was sexually assaulted. We need to collectively stop with the mitigating language thing. We’re not the fucking news media.

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        Also, the assumption that SA victim = female. The article only ever says minor and any gender can be a victim.

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      And the woman in the video will be endlessly harassed by the far-right extremists regardless of who took and released the video.

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      I’m unfamiliar with this news site, but they must know they have to do better on sources, because this sounds like reporting on rumours.

      "Several social media users, including commentators and reporters…" (emphasis mine).

      Interesting that the right is already accusing them of potentially using deepfakes in the future. Maybe they know of something captured in video, or maybe random blanket statements of innocence are necessary with a knob end like Trump.

      I also hope no one was victimized.

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    This fascist POS was literally found to be a credible sexual abuser and it did nothing.

    This too, if proven true, will also do nothing because Republicans endorse this type of behavior.

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    Any video of the Man who bragged about grabbing Women by the Pussy and who was friends with Jeffrey Epstein and who Perved on Underage Beauty Pageant participants is OBVIOUSLY AI! DRAG QUEENS!

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    I can all but guarantee that this won’t sway a single one of his voters. In fact, watch that this doesn’t get him even more support. They love circling the wagons when their beloved king is in trouble.