Kippo, the ‘gamer dating app’.

Well that sounds like a terrible idea

I hadn’t heard of this app, but it sounds like it’s even worse than standard apps, which are already a shithole and waste of time. I wonder what the skew is there as well. I bet it’s something like 95% men, 4% bots/sex workers/scammers, and 1% women, lol.

Is there like a must have? Like must love Helldivers II? Liberty lovers only? Managed Democracy 💪?

That’s like having a toxic bob ross

Dota 2 is actually huge right now

DOTA 1 was outstanding. Still intense, but a lot more fun than what lol is

Deathlock?

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Maybe they’d end up being toxic Stardew Valley players

I’m certain that exists. I remember a few years back when I ran into a subreddit that was entirely devoted to vehemently hating a specific animal crossing character (I can’t remember which one and have no interest in looking for the sub again). And it was fairly active, too!

People get fucking weird about anything and everything, turning funny jokes into legit worrying belief systems.

True plague of multiplayer, which could be awesome but it’s just not.

People so often forget the joy of multiplayer is in playing with people you actually know. The true scourge of multiplayer is the death of the LAN Party and the high school / college online play circles as people grow up.

Multiplayer is best when you have a large group of people who all know each other and cheerfully rival one another, before periodically going out to test their skills in larger tournaments, learn strategies, and bring them home again to advance the local meta. Its miserable when you’re just connecting to random anonymous people, playing a handful of rounds, and then never seeing or hearing from them again.

Even the most annoying in-group player can become endearing over time. But the anonymous opponent is obnoxious entirely by playing in a way you’re unfamiliar with.

Children and Manchildren alike, the latter being an even worst offender

There’s a thousand little unique skills, and they’re all important. Some of them include communicating with your team and managing team morale.

Additionally you get matched up with 4 people who roughly have the same sum of skills, which almost certainly means a completely different makeup of skills

So you notice your teammates screwing up all the things you’re better at, and you naturally overlook your teammates skills that don’t look like your own.

This basically manifests as road rage where the driver doesn’t realize he is the traffic. It creates a situation where nearly all your teammates look like idiots compared to what you look for. Because you’re not looking at ALL the things.

first game i played i lost. i was fucking pissed.

second game i played i easily won. i was fucking pissed.

thats the small of it

Mobas (and team games in general) have an inherent issue where people dont like to be losing, and when they are, they usually find an outlet by blaming the rest of the team.

Its a pretty huge problem in league because

1. Behavior problem. Riot has like never addressed the toxicity issue. They’ve basically said heres some banned words and thats it. People can get by either griefing in game (which has been essentially unpunished) or by typing in non bannable ways (i remember seeing someone using europe as a uhh… You know)
2. Game design problem. League is pretty punishing when it comes to losing. You’re stuck in a game you dont want to play, esp if your team holds you hostage by not surrendering intentionally. There’s no fast way to get into a new game. You have to finish this, lose lp (ranked point system in league), and then possibly run into the same situation again. This isn’t really riot’s fault. This is just a flaw of mobas that no ones learned to really fix yet

5v5 for 30+ mins and one person can easily ruin the experience for their team, on purpose or otherwise. It’s a snowballing game where kills and such make you stronger and stronger.
It can be extremely frustrating.

especially in league,
small mistakes create a downwards spiral.

when you die your enemy can lane freely while you miss out.
making him stronger and you weaker.

that loss also has more impact.
in mobas the diffrence between a kited out and a ill equiped player is far more drastic than in other games like csgo.

the separated laning also makes it easier to pick out a scapegoat.
the lane that lost is easily blamed,
even if the rest of the team did nothing to help them.

If a game is going poorly, they find something to blame. And games will often be considered lost very early (even if they might not be) but you still have to play the game until you lose, which can be frustrating for many

As others have said, it’s a very snowbally game. The various characters all grow naturally stronger over the course of the game through gold (to buy items) and experience that you earn by killing minions. The problem is that killing an enemy player and destroying enemy towers grants a lot of gold and experience, so if you fuck up and die (or if you get ganged up on by the enemy team) you can end up making your opponent much stronger. Even if you live and are forced to return to base to heal, the opportunity for free farm or destroying your tower (which also makes it riskier for you to push forward) can make your opponent a lot stronger than you, which lets him kill you easier, which makes him stronger. This can also spill over to other lanes, where the opponent you made stronger starts killing your teammates and taking their towers.

There’s ways to overcome this snowball–players on killstreaks are worth more gold when they die, you can gang up on a fed opponent and catch them out to nullify their stat advantage, and you can try and help other lanes to get your team stronger. The champions also have different scaling levels, and some champions get a lot of front-loaded baseline damage while others scale better with items, and a select few champions have theoretically infinite scaling (but are generally much weaker in other areas to compensate). Worst case, this means your team can play super defensive and try to wait out the advantage until they catch up and then win from there. The problem is that all this requires A) communication and the ability to quickly adapt from your teammates, B) the opposing team screws up and doesn’t press their advantage, and C) your team is willing to try (which may require dragging the game out for over an hour). Needless to say, this is not always the case, and this design makes it very easy to blame another player for the loss (warranted or not).

People run around for 30 minutes. Someone gets caught out of position. The game ends. People screech at each other.

It’s an unintended consequence of the original game’s design (DOTA), but yeah, by giving you 4 teammates who can all have a big impact on the outcome of the game, it makes it very easy for your brain to blame anyone but yourself when something goes wrong

Dota is a different game (series) in the MOBA genre.

Skooch is a former LoL content creator. He’s still pretty damn funny

If you never look back at your own shit, you won’t know its brown.