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On one hand, eff Microsoft and install Debian. It’ll run on a potato.
On the other hand, I look forward to the coming glut of secondhand PCs I can install Debian on.
As melon scratchers go, that’s a honey doodle.
I think we’re gonna see a dramatic rise in Linux systems in the coming years if Microsoft keeps this course. Nvidia have started upping their Linux driver game as well so it’s gonna be a breeze to pick up decent second hand systems and reselling them with a proper OS that’ll take us to the end of the world in 24 years.
Been reading this sentiment for twenty years now.
And yet it’s stayed true. Linux is above 1% on steam and rising every year, it’s never been easier to buy a Linux device, or install and use Linux for desktop consumer purposes, and even the tech uninformed know Microsoft is a bag of dicks.
But this time it’s real! /s
Don’t you mean 13 years and 3 months? At least, that’s when the UNIX Epoch ends…
If you’re on a kernel newer than 5.6 (which is almost 5 years old now so you should be) you already have 64-bit time.
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Either way, you’re net positive.
Why would you scratch a melon? How would you even know if it’s itchy???
Can you scratch pumpkins too?
My computer can’t upgrade to Win11 and I am buying a new one, but I’m putting Linux on it.
I will not be upgrading to W11. Some time between now and when they sunset W10 I will be switching to Linux.
Im sure Win10 will get unofficial patching etc for some time yet
True but you really shouldn’t rely on that. If you must use Windows 10 you can always air gap it
I always gasp for air but that’s because I swim a lot, and by swim, I mean very fat
PCs that can’t run Windows 11 are valuable to people who don’t want to wake up one morning and find they’ve been upgraded against their will.
Windows 10 will be EOL this time next year. You have one year to do something.
A lot of people will just be paying for 0patch for a while, I’m sure. The remainder will just not patch at all and hope for the best.
You also could just move to Windows 11 or Linux. Realistically Windows 11 isn’t that big of change. Windows 10 gas most of the same anti features.
This isn’t news, it’s just the standard notice that Microsoft isn’t going to spend time making their new shiny OS work on 10+ year old hardware.
You make it sound like an older gaming rig wasn’t powerful enough to run win 11. It’s not about the older hardware being too weak, it’s about enforcing their TPM bullshit with which they aim to gradually create an apple style walled garden where they control what you can do with your machine.
FTFY
New Shitty “Os”*
*(Legal Disclaimer “Os” is actually malware)
idk, sounds like an ad for Linux to me
I dunno, I’ve got a laptop who’s CPU was too new for win 8.1 to have drivers or support for it, and is too old to put win 11 on it…
This is the first time they’ve intentionally cut off the ability to run their OS at all just based on hardware age when it could otherwise run it just fine.
Not dedicating support to old hardware is one thing, blocking it intentionally is something else entirely.
Oh, that laptop? High end gaming laptop that was 6 years old when Windows 11 released. The fact it’s blocked is flat out ridiculous, and defending it is equally ridiculous.
They want you to buy a new Windows license. Also all of there bloated Electron apps run better on fast hardware
Shocked face
Its almost as if Microsoft makes money from new hardware
That’s not what anyone is asking and if that’s what MS said then they’re just dodging the issue entirely. If you buy a motherboard on your own today TPM still wouldn’t be enabled. And their “support” never went farther than hardware manufacturers registering where Windows could pull driver updates from. So that’s just the worst take I’ve seen in this whole thing.
Or I could switch to Linux…
OH WAIT, I already did that, darn. Such a shame I can’t ditch Windows twice.
You can, install it and uninstall it once again. Repeat until you’re sated.
Windows isn’t even that good. The OS is kind of a huge mess. It has two unfortunate advantages though: it’s the default on many devices, and (because of that) software availability is best. I wish it wasn’t the case.
It also has the benefit of inertia. Everyone knows Microsoft from either school or marketing. They are the standard and anyone else has to fight decades of standards. It also helps that they historically created the best tools for easily managing fleets on machines. Now days they are pushing everyone to Azure but before they had the best tools to build your business on. It was so convenient to have Windows server with all the server stuff like AD, SQL and IIS. They basically were they only well known option until the last 5-10 years.
PowerShell is another advantage, oddly enough, though I’ve been worried for a bit the direction they’re going with that… Everything they’re doing now is Azure and they’re pushing everything to Graph, and the way all of it works is a massive pain for anyone trying to use PowerShell the way it was designed to be used
python exists. dont subject yourself to vendor lock-in.
Python exists but I personally like PowerShell more. I’m not crazy about it being Microsoft owned, but it’s at least open source at this point, for whatever that’s worth.
Yupp, Linux it is
After about 10 hours of reading and video watching, it seems pretty unanimous that linux mint with cinnamon is the easiest one to use and everything else is hobbyist stuff.
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Just run windows 3.1 dual booted with Linux mint. Easily the most rational decision.
FreeDOS
“upgrade”
BlizzardMicrosuck: “Don’t you all have bank accounts?”I just would like to point out that you would not be using Windows 10 on or past Oct 2025. You have exactly one year to move on.
As soon as it reached end of life you know it will immediately be a huge target. Don’t let personal preference put you at risk.
looks at self
How many other ways are my personal preferences putting me at risk?
I mean, not really? Unless someone holds onto a really bad exploit until after that point, it’ll be no different than going increasingly behind on updates, there’s no magic switch that will be thrown that makes it more vulnerable after EOL
One more year of dual-booting should be plenty of time to ween off the Windows teat.
Because MS is so good at quickly releasing quality patches for every vulnerability that it’s not already a huge target?
Compared to not getting any patches at all? That doesn’t seem like a good justification for staying on something EOL.
I stayed on XP until some game I wanted didn’t work (by that time, 7 was out), I stayed on 7 until some game I wanted didn’t work (by that time, 10 was out). Nothing bad happened to me. I’ll take my chances. At least until I find the time to get into Linux, whenever that may be.
If one’s hardware is 10+ years old, I don’t think upgrading to the latest OS is likely high on their list of priorities.
Why upgrade hardware that still does all you need?
