Hugh mistake by whoever started the protest to have an end date for it. Now only a fraction of the ~8000 subs that planned to go blackout indefinitely has remained private. The protest has achieved nothing and Reddit will continue doing its things. Not to disregard the efforts but this is definitely not the right way to protest.
What’s the right way to protest, in your mind, from the position of the mods and users who can’t control other subs?
I’m happier off Reddit than on at this point protest or not, even though I’ve been there from nearly the start. Unless they reverse course on this recent heading, it’s not a place I want to stay.
I already have to heavily curate my reddit experience to have a good time there. I rather smaller communities like this, and I don’t want to spend my time on the official forums for things like this due to how they go.
I’m used to an internet where I used lots of different sites and have different accounts for things. It has upsides.
If I really want to read something that’s only on Reddit I can go read it and participate elsewhere.
Well, a protest where everyone comes back afterward just won’t work. I read that people suggested allowing spam and unmoderation, but that would just ruin the app for both parties. The most ‘effective’ way is to funnel all users to one alternative, like what we’ve done. A Reddit clone, as shown here, is easy to make but the hard part is showing the idea of the community creating an alternative and driving traffic towards it. That way, Reddit would actually have to worry about people not coming back instead of waiting it out like they’re doing now.
Yeah, and steve-o said as much.
To be honest, I don’t expect the blackout or protest to fix reddit at this point. The IPO is impending. the enshittification has begun. (That’s a great article if you haven’t read it)
But I know it has given a huge boost to alternative platforms like this, which gives me a place to hang out and do the same thing I was doing there, in a better way.
Ok Spez…
Please don’t do that here.
The post wasn’t even remotely related to Warframe…
Honestly, seeing Warframe reddit being like the only one I follow still being properly closed makes me proud for the community. Is there a Discord ppl chill in? Cuz this place seems kinda quiet. Unless it is true that internet is 90% bots.
From reading the blackout plans post posted by the mods about 12 hours before the privating of the community, the main issues people had was that they didn’t want to make yet another account for yet another platform.
This place is quiet not because /r/Warframe was mostly bots, but people just don’t want to invest in more platforms / apps unless they feel there’s an incentive for them to do so.
Of course, investing in the Fediverse platforms is the logical conclusion to all the issues with the big platforms, but there needs to be some sort of positive value for people to want to invest in something else, like a big community, or extra features (unfortunately the perks for decentralisation are not features to most people), and right now other platforms don’t offer that, and I’m not so sure they ever will, as the weight of the huge platforms gives them more power to keep offering more and more value over competitors, due to the tendency towards monopoly in capitalistic systems.
To answer the question directly: I don’t think /r/Warframe should come back, as I think a lot of people are resisting posting here because they expect /r/Warframe to come back and will just wait it out, but after enough time goes by, they’ll feel they’re missing out by not being here.
Edit: My comment appears not to be federating to dormi.zone, maybe editing will make it try again?
It took me a couple of days to decide to make an account here, I am reaching my limits with creating passwords for all my accounts and remembering them, but since I spent almost all my Reddit time in r/Warframe, it was the logical next step.
“Remembering them” May I recommend a password manager?
I have no idea how password managers work, and I feel that if it goes wrong, all my different passwords will be out.
A local password manager, eg KeePass, is easy to use. At most basic, think of it like a spreadsheet that you save with a password. Managers add a bunch of features on top of that basic concept.
- You start it, you create a big password/phrase to encrypt it with (This is probably the hardest part, write it down somewhere until you’re confident remembering it)
- Record your existing accounts
- Create new accounts and/or update old passwords with new randomized (you can customize how) passwords, meaning each account has a password that can be breached without consequence
- Your database file, since it is encrypted, can be stored in a cloud provider for backup/easy access
- Improve integration with your browser or phone with extensions or apps that can read the database you made (For KeePass, there’s a few of each. I use KeePassium on iOS)
I’m kind-of hoping there’s some degree of spooling up to be going on. People learning Lemmy, people becoming comfortable in a ‘new’ community, people starting to be talkative again.
Still a bit over 60% are dark. That’s still a good number 32 hrs after the “end” time.
sorry i mean a fraction of the big subs, the 60% are the small <100k subs that Reddit wouldn’t care less about. Maybe go back and poll whether to continue the blackout or not?
Over half of the big subs are still private/restricted that were part of the blackout.
Better plan: have a huge “we’re migrating!” Series of posts to direct to here and make it read only.
There’s also a huge pile of important information that’s currently inaccessible. Permanent read-only would probably be better in general, because half the time when I search for an obscure question the only useful results are reddit posts from 2017 which I can’t view anymore.
https://dormi.zone/post/11226 <- this post suggests a method of making that information available to us again without compromising on the protest while simultaneously enriching the instance.
As I mentioned over there I believe this is worth trying even if Reddit could stop it just to serve them a PR defeat.
I have a ton of saved posts that I wanted to read at some point(it’s been 2 years) that are now hidden. With how it is going, I may have lost the info contained within.
There is an alternative, though we’re losing time on being able to enact it. We could migrate posts from Reddit, there’s tools to do it, to our Lemmy instance. It’s suggested here: https://dormi.zone/post/11226
I don’t think we’re losing time.
r/Warframe has a lot of posts. It’s simply not feasible ever to just copy every single post in existence. If we can define a set of guides that are most valuable and currently missing, then we’d have something we could work with.
I say we’re losing time as it appears that the method I’ve pointed to in the other thread used Reddit’s API. We’ve got the rest of this month until the whole reason the protest started goes into effect and the API becomes functionally unavailable.
We’ve got the rest of this month for what?
What would you like to see moved?
Sorry, missed seeing who I was replying to. I recall you’re already aware of the other thread and are in a better position to know the timeframe and options than I am. I was referring to using the scripts & API to grab posts quickly.
As for what I’d like to see moved… I don’t want to give unhelpful generalities so, there’s one or two recents I’ve been able to find the links to specifically:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/146jtos/praghasas_design_is_somewhat_reminiscent_of/ An interesting post related to assets made for TNW and a little bit of discussion on possibilities for the future.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/146fsef/orbiter_wip/ The orbiter interior-design post that inspired me to start actually trying to make mine look… at least less spartan.
On a more generalities note: Discussion/guides of how to survive and kill effectively in Steel Path.
Aside from that, thank you. I see the team here is trying to make the instance a good place for Warframe community and preserve the knowledge from the subreddit.
I would need to know which of those I saved.I literally reached the cap of saved posts.
I don’t have any kind of allegiance to Reddit, or the blackout, I do however want that sweet knowledge. It feels like it’s been stolen from the user, Lock the sub from new posts, make a sticky linking here and explaining what this new community is. Right now, I believe just the mods have access to all that knowledge? feels a little unfair to the average user to lose all that data.
I am a brand new player. I have this comment bookmarked as a guide to the basics of the game and a suggested order to complete the star chart and quests. My friend plans to start playing the game tomorrow, and I was planning to send him that comment as a starting point. It’s very frustrating that I no longer have access to this information along with everything else on that sub
My friend, Maybe I can help you out here. Thanks to the Wayback Machine, I was able to get this for you:
my copypaste for new players:
Warframe takes place in the super far future of the Origin System. You’re a space ninja fighting alongside other space ninjas to steal from the rich (the corpus and grineer) and give to the poor (yourself). You also do heroic things i guess like helping out some fish people and jumpstarting a violent anti-corpus resistance. Mainly, you kill stuff, loot stuff, and do some other stuff to repeat stuffs 1 and 2.
Everything is super confusing at first. Almost nothing is explained, but you’ll learn eventually.
Learn Credits and Plat
Credits are blue, platinum is silver looking. you get credits by the thousands and hundreds, but plat is only gained by trading for it from other players (as it is the standard currency in trade) or buying it from DE. do not be alarmed, as platinum is not needed for much of anything other than cosmetics. If you need credits, your best bet will be doing dark sectors (infested endless missions that have their own unique symbol for a node and hold unique bonus) and later on Index or Railjack.
Don’t buy anything from the market unless its a blueprint. I accidentally bought a couple of resources with my plat. Blueprints cost credits
Spend your starting plat on Warframe and weapon slots.
Don’t ask about the Lore of the Warframes themselves. We really have an unspoken rule for spoilers and trust me, the plot twists are awesome. however, I will be happy to answer any lore related question
Don’t be afraid to ask for help. The community is good here and mostly kind. Few are MR elitists but the majority of us are super helpful towards noobs.
Most folk move via bullet jumping. This is your crouch and jump move at the same time.
Most bosses drop Warframe part blueprints. Build the blueprints if you want, then buy a Blueprint for the frame itself from the market.
All you need for making a Frame: Neuroptics, systems, and chassis.
Star Chart Progression:
i recommend the planets to be done in this order:
Earth
Venus
Mercury
mars
Phobos
Void Branch 1
Ceres
Jupiter
Europa
Void Branch 2
Saturn (this is where things start to get hard)
Uranus (where main story starts to pick up)
Neptune
Void Branch 3
Pluto
Sedna
Void Branch 4
Eris
there are other locations you will need to go through but they are only revealed after certain quests. Some of the locations like Mercury and Europa have thier own quest you’ll need to do to progress.
After completing the Star Chart (every single mission) you will unlock the Steel Path and Arbitration, end-game content but thats a long way off.
Modding:
mods are essential to getting good in the game. normally on frames you’ll want to mod for health/shields/armor. depending on the frame’s abilities you may also want to mod for strength, range, duration, or effeciency. on weapons you’ll want to look at critical chance/damage, attack speed, and damage types and mod appropriately for that.
for example, if a weapon deals slash the most, then mod for slash. if it has a high crit chance, then mod for crit chance. you will also need to mod for elements. the basic elements are heat, cold, electricity, and toxin. you can combine those elements to make better ones such as corrosive, gas, magnetic, viral, and blast.
some elements work better against certain enemies. magnetic focuses on shields and works best against corpus but is useless against grineer, and corrosive erodes armor which makes it great for grineer but not so much against corpus or infested. most players mod for viral as it allows enemies to take much more damage.
Factions:
Tenno: good guys branded war criminals across the system. We commit war crimes daily. We’re basically a myth
Grineer: cannibalistic russian clones. Love steampunk in space and have awful sense of humor. Except Clem. He’s cool
Corpus: super-capitalist cultists worshipping money, basically EA
Infested: communist space cancer, buts its alive. Think SIVA from Destiny meets the Flood from Halo
Corrupted: mind control security system
Clem: Steel Meridian’s walking legend. A super-powerful clone who protects us from the scary void
Quests:
the order of story quests is roughly like this (keep in mind the devs have them just scattered around):
Vor’s Prize (the tutorial quest)
The Archwing (note that this does not need you to craft the open world launcher, which needs fish oil)
New Strange (gotten from Simaris, the big yellow guy, in any relay outside of mars. I advise visiting him and doing the synthesis tutorial)
no quest for Jupiter but keep in mind that Jupiter and Saturn is where things get really hard. Be sure to check and experiment with mods when you can, especially the elemental ones.
Natah (unlocked on Uranus, this is the one that kicks off the main plot)
Second Dream (a very spoilery quest, unlocked on Neptune. I don’t recommend looking this up as we love to keep these later quests a secret)
War Within (unlocked on Sedna, also important, you’ll love it)
Chains of Harrow (this is that quest where the rabbit hole of the plot just plummets down into a deep dark abyss). unlocked after doing Mot in the Void
Apostacy Prologue (unlocked immediately after Chains, also a super important quest since it changes quite a bit)
Sacrifice (my favorite quest, unlocked after Apostacy)
Chimera Prologue (unlocked after Sacrifice, very short)
Erra (unlocked immediately after crafting Railjack i think, which is in the Rising Tide quest)
The Maker (unlocked immediately after Erra)
The New War (you’ll need a mech from Deimos and a railjack for this. this is our latest chapter so don’t worry too much.)
OPEN WORLD QUESTS:
Plains of Eidolon (Earth): Saya’s Vigil and the Mask of Revenant, the former can be done as a new player and is needed to unlock the Quills faction after War Within
Fortuna (Venus): Vox Solaris, Deadlock Protocol, Call of Tempestarii, and Waverider; the first two are the most important but I don’t think they are all that necessary for the main story.
Deimos: Heart of Deimos; introduces the necramech and House Entrati. Keep in mind you’ll need to grind for a mech after accessing the post-War Within subfaction on Deimos.
I recommend you do the open world stuff AFTER War Within since much of the important content is locked behind a unique ability
Videos:
For Syndicate factions, refer to this informative guide: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RQLmNPVRytU
100 days of Warframe: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-VuYCLelIO8
And if you like the 80s, here’s a Mashed video that always gets me in the mood for Warframe: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x7uMDdzv408
What Do You Do In Warframe: https://v.redd.it/wn251j8k55z61 ** Edit by Ashibear: **This link takes you to a video, the video link is dead but you can read the comments and get a jist of the discussions there http://web.archive.org/web/20220328073142/https://www.reddit.com/r/Warframe/comments/nchftq/when_someone_asks_me_so_what_do_you_do_in_warframe/
Any questions?
I forgot about the wayback machine. Thank you very much friend!
maybe they could go read-only since there’s a lot of useful information on that sub
Yeah, go read only then we can all work on transferring the info over here.
Weird title. But you are correct
Are you specifically talking about /r/warframe here? And if not, why are you talking about it here?
I am
Where exactly?
Seems like you’re talking about reddit to me.
That’s why I posted here no? Sorry if it’s not clear to you by not specifying. But yes I am questioning the decision to remain private indefinitely of the r/warframe sub
Ah my fault misread first dude, continue on.
44/100 are closed indefinitely
https://blackout.photon-reddit.com/
There’s supposed to be a second round that’s indefinite.
The blackout helped reddit do server maintenance lol.
It’s not just the mods of subreddits that need to block subreddits. Unless each person stops using it altogether, Reddit execs will continue doing what they want.
I just replaced the bookmarks and RIF icon with others and haven’t visited for a week. Replaced them with books, and I admit I haven’t read that many ever since I got Reddit over a decade ago.
Same - I’m using a Lemmy instance, Kbin and Tildes to wean myself off reddit and I think it’s working! Warframe was one of the communities I missed the most, so I’m super glad it’s available here too - very excited to see it grow and expand.
No plans to go back, so I do hope more people move here!
All this “protest” is doing is depriving the community of amazing posts information and data. This goofy website isn’t a fix to the community they are destroying.
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