• @orcrist@lemm.ee
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    287 days ago

    He spoke carelessly, but he didn’t exactly say what the author said he said. You can in fact do many things with it. Copyright doesn’t care what you do if you aren’t copying. That’s the definition of the word.

    • Todd Bonzalez
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      96 days ago

      So I can pirate as many movies as I want as long as I’m only watching them?

      Let these rich guys keep talking for a sec. I can get behind this somewhat.

        • Todd Bonzalez
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          15 days ago

          Copyright is a mental illness

          Well, I happen to have a great deal of respect for and routinely offer my support to those who suffer from mental illnesses, so maybe find a better way to say this that doesn’t denigrate disabled people.

      • @masterspace@lemmy.ca
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        46 days ago

        No. It’s only illegal if you republish what you scrape. Absolutely nothing prevents any company from scraping the web and using that information internally.

      • @orcrist@lemm.ee
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        26 days ago

        I think that depends how you write your web scraper. Of course the web scraper is going to load the page, just like your web browser does, which by all accounts is not an issue. What happens after the page is loaded depends on how the software is written.

    • Elias Griffin
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      16 days ago

      In fact just the other day information wanted a ham sandwhich before I set it free so it could find more people not on an empty stomach :/

    • Elias Griffin
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      46 days ago

      Oh yeah, tell me about Intellectual Property, Patent, Invention, and Ideation thievery, was it still there afterwards? IP theft has been recognized for centuries.

      Back to the basement Mustafa Jr…

  • @interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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    116 days ago

    Copyright infrigment is not theft, training models is not copyright infringement either. We need a law equivalent to when an artist says “he’s inpired by someone else” . That it specifically is illegal to do that without permission if you use a machine. That will force big tech to pay a pittance for it and it will instakill all the small player.

    • Elias Griffin
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      Copyright Infringment strawman argument. When considering AI, we are not talking legal copyright infringement in the relationship between humans vs AI. Humans are mostly concerned with being obsoleted by Big Tech so the real issue is Intellectual Property Theft.

      artificial INTELLIGENCE stole our Intellectual Property

      Do you see it now?

      • @afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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        36 days ago

        What I see is a system of laws that came about during the Middle Ages and have been manipulated by the powers that be to kill off any good parts of them.

        We all knew copyright was broken. It was broken before my grandparents were born. It didn’t encourage artists or promise them proper income, it didn’t allow creations to gradually move into public domain. It punished all forms of innovation from player pianos to fanfiction on Tumblr.

      • @interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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        25 days ago

        It’s only theft as long as you cling to the failed “copyright” model.

        Big tech couldn’t steal anything if we don’t respect their property rights in the first place.

        By reifying copyright under the AI paradigm, we maintain big tech’s power over us.

        The truth is chatgpt belong to us. ClosedAI is just the compiler of the data.

        If we finally end the failed experiment of copyright, we destroy their mote.

  • @jabjoe@feddit.uk
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    25 days ago

    I can see a lot of comments against copyright here, but has anyone considered the implications of changes to copyright on copyleft?

    I argue copyleft is demonstrably socially useful in locking things open. I do wonder if we’ll end up the two being different legally…

  • @Pacmanlives@lemmy.world
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    16 days ago

    Perfect I will actually just start putting copyrights statements both on my site and in the source code. Ughhhh!!! But fine if you wanna go down this rabbit hole LFG bitch!!!

  • Vanth
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    1938 days ago

    Fair use once it’s posted on the web? Thank you very much for the framework to pirate anything and everything.

  • @kibiz0r@midwest.social
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    998 days ago

    Pirating Windows for your own personal, private use, which will never directly make you a single dollar: HIGHLY ILLEGAL

    Scraping your creative works so they can make billions by selling automated processes that compete against your work: Perfectly fine and normal!

    • experbia
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      107 days ago

      bunch of fuckin art pirates. crying about software piracy while they have their own bots pirating everyone’s art.

      • @kibiz0r@midwest.social
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        67 days ago

        It’s not even piracy though. I never saw anyone torrent Windows_XP_Home_Cracked.iso and go “Hey guys, check out this operating system I made!”

    • @yesman@lemmy.world
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      37 days ago

      Do people still pirate Windows? You can download the iso directly from Microsoft’s website and you don’t need a registration key anymore.

      • @Scrollone@feddit.it
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        57 days ago

        You do need a registration key, but now it’s tied to the hardware so it activates as soon as you connect to the network, no need to actually type the registration key.

        • Balder
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          They’re saying Windows will lock away some customization, but you don’t need a key to use it nowadays.

  • @CriticalMiss@lemmy.world
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    898 days ago

    Sure bud, pirating some Microsoft Studio video games and windows ISOs right now. What? I found them on the open web!

    • bruhduh
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      I mean, Xbox one/series recently got proof of concept jailbreak, so… I think many people are on board with your thought