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      I (unrelatedly) finally started playing new Vegas just a few days ago. Is the show any good?

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        I haven’t watched it, but my understanding is they fucked up the NCR. Someone on rock-paper-shotgun described it as “Bethesda wants fallout to be kitschy mad max and nothing more”, and that felt pretty apt. But again I haven’t watched it so I’m just second hand griping.

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          That’s pretty much it. Bethesda hand-of-gods Fallout to never develop too far, for an eternal shantytown aesthetic with super mutant orcs and Brotherhood everywhere.

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          Ehhh kind of? After watching it, it feels a lot more like they want to show the rebuilding of the NCR, so I wouldn’t exactly say they did things to the NCR just because they wanted a more Mad Max Apocalypse style.

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        The show is pretty good honestly. As a pretty big fan of the franchise I’m enjoying it compared to the dumpster fire that is Halo.

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        Nope. Played it all the way through when it first came out. But haven’t touched it since then.

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          Both 1&2 are awesome games, hope it matches up to your memories of them all those years ago!

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      Is there any mod that helps with modernising the control? I have no idea how me from 8 years ago able to chew through fo1 and 2

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    FALLOUT 4 IS FAR FROM THE GREATEST FALLOUT.

    I think most people agree Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas or that fancy blend of both, take the top spots.

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      I describe it to people I know as:

      • Fallout 4 is, far and away, the best “game” of the modern ones. It feels much better to play in almost every way than the other ones. Especially the combat. There’s some interesting stuff in it, but it’s largely the mechanics that keep you coming back, not the RPG or world.
      • Fallout 3 has perhaps the better realized world out of them all; the way it all fits together is great and there’s a lot of rewarding exploration in it.
      • Fallout: New Vegas is, far and away, the best Fallout game…it harkens back to the roots way more and is the best RPG – by a long shot – of the 3.

      Obviously YMMV and others will feel differently, but that’s how I’ve parsed out this series so far.

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        People really are afraid of Fallout 1 & 2’s age, it seems. But they are still the best.

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          It’s less the age and more that they just plain don’t play well. They always feel like you’re supposed to be in control of a full party but you never are, even once you finally get companions they’re AI controlled (and it’s not even a good AI).

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              It’s fairly common for CRPGs to give you full control over your party and their builds. I’m pretty sure you could in the original Wasteland (I’ll admit I never played it), which was a game that heavily influenced Fallout.

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          I got that free game from Epic a while back: Encased. It took the isometric gameplay/feel from the first 2.5 fallout games and modernized them pretty well. I haven’t finished it (my character is a psychic god. it’s fun, but I’ve kind of lost the thread of the story. I think I’m in act 3 or something) but a mod porting FO1 or FO2 to that engine would be sweet.

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        Fallout4 has so much nonsense “game” in it with the way levels work. All of the modern ones are pretty bad about it (“headshot on the naked bandit! … he’s fine, he’s level 30”), but FO4 was especially egregious.

        Also the way it does power armor is kind of stupid. You can tell they wanted to have power armor early on for some marketing wow, but it cheapened it for me.

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        See, what they need to do is update the graphics on 1 & 2. I would definitely replay those, bugs and all. Bozar was of course OP but the way it was so story driven was excellent.

        The only issue is the potato graphics.

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          Not only the graphic, the control is clunky and the UI is hard to navigate, it need to be remastered with QOL update to modern standard. I can look past the graphic but the control really need a lot of getting used to.

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          I think that’s a little harsh. Can I ask what you feel is wrong with the graphics as they are?

          I’m currently playing Fallout and my only issue is the UI scaling, the graphics themselves I find quite charming.

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        I really like Fallout 3 but the ton of invisible walls and the shitty metro tunnels turn it into a game I often hate to play.

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        I played 3 and NV on 360, both games were badly marred by being as much loading zone as they were game. Ruined the experience of snooping around for loot and side quests as opening a door back into the wasteland could take minutes. I had to stick to mostly the main quest.

        4 was a far better “game” for being played on PC, but I agree NV plot was great. I just didn’t want to replay and get the different endings, as the game itself was painful to play.

        I should replay them on PC someday, especially if there are graphical update mods available.

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        The main problem with FO4 is the voiced PC and the asinine dialogue structure. The map is amazing, I’d argue it’s better than the F:NV map.

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    Good, reward the company when they actually make a good thing and maybe other companies will finally start to listen.

    We don’t want adaptations from people who hate the source material. We want adaptations from people who love it.

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    If Bethesda/MS made a new game, or at least a remake to launch next to the show, they would be making bank right now. Instead they are barely seeing any money from ~5 dollar downloads of a 6 years old game. Lacking strategy/foresight like this is the reason while Sony is eating their lunch in the console game market.

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      So, Bethesda is making money for doing nothing rather than investing millions of dollars and years of development. Hmmm…

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        What you talking about? They’ve already spent billions of dollars and years of development making a game, just not a fallout game so they’re not getting any benefit from it.

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      They’re raking in huge amounts of additional revenue across the franchise and its associated content, getting new F76 players in to their microtransaction store, etc. The last thing that they are doing right now is kicking themselves.

      And the show was actually good.

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      Idk about you, but i feels like they plan the discount accordingly to ramp up the player base.

      FO tv series premier on 10th April, FO game franchise start having sales on 11th April till now. People who haven’t play Fallout will start playing it. They barely did anything but still rake up money purely from the people the tv series pull. All that money from across the franchise without the risk of a new product being a disappointment cash grab, all profit, no cost.

      Compared to when Halo tv series premiered and there’s barely a bump for the master chief collection and halo 5, i’d say Bethesda is doing extremely well with this one.

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      PC. The console versions only support mods from bethesda.net, and are far more limited in mod scope and availability. PC has access to Nexus and other sites for mods, and there are tons to choose from. Mod managers make modding your game pretty straightforward as well.

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    On USA Steam, the GOTY edition is $9.99, with all the DLC. The Season Pass, which is just the DLC, is like $12.49… So I bought the GOTY edition & threw away a copy of Fallout 4.