Fallout 4 is, far and away, the best “game” of the modern ones. It feels much better to play in almost every way than the other ones. Especially the combat. There’s some interesting stuff in it, but it’s largely the mechanics that keep you coming back, not the RPG or world.
Fallout 3 has perhaps the better realized world out of them all; the way it all fits together is great and there’s a lot of rewarding exploration in it.
Fallout: New Vegas is, far and away, the best Fallout game…it harkens back to the roots way more and is the best RPG – by a long shot – of the 3.
Obviously YMMV and others will feel differently, but that’s how I’ve parsed out this series so far.
It’s less the age and more that they just plain don’t play well. They always feel like you’re supposed to be in control of a full party but you never are, even once you finally get companions they’re AI controlled (and it’s not even a good AI).
It’s fairly common for CRPGs to give you full control over your party and their builds. I’m pretty sure you could in the original Wasteland (I’ll admit I never played it), which was a game that heavily influenced Fallout.
I got that free game from Epic a while back: Encased. It took the isometric gameplay/feel from the first 2.5 fallout games and modernized them pretty well. I haven’t finished it (my character is a psychic god. it’s fun, but I’ve kind of lost the thread of the story. I think I’m in act 3 or something) but a mod porting FO1 or FO2 to that engine would be sweet.
Fallout4 has so much nonsense “game” in it with the way levels work. All of the modern ones are pretty bad about it (“headshot on the naked bandit! … he’s fine, he’s level 30”), but FO4 was especially egregious.
Also the way it does power armor is kind of stupid. You can tell they wanted to have power armor early on for some marketing wow, but it cheapened it for me.
See, what they need to do is update the graphics on 1 & 2. I would definitely replay those, bugs and all. Bozar was of course OP but the way it was so story driven was excellent.
Not only the graphic, the control is clunky and the UI is hard to navigate, it need to be remastered with QOL update to modern standard. I can look past the graphic but the control really need a lot of getting used to.
I played 3 and NV on 360, both games were badly marred by being as much loading zone as they were game. Ruined the experience of snooping around for loot and side quests as opening a door back into the wasteland could take minutes. I had to stick to mostly the main quest.
4 was a far better “game” for being played on PC, but I agree NV plot was great. I just didn’t want to replay and get the different endings, as the game itself was painful to play.
I should replay them on PC someday, especially if there are graphical update mods available.
I describe it to people I know as:
Obviously YMMV and others will feel differently, but that’s how I’ve parsed out this series so far.
People really are afraid of Fallout 1 & 2’s age, it seems. But they are still the best.
It’s less the age and more that they just plain don’t play well. They always feel like you’re supposed to be in control of a full party but you never are, even once you finally get companions they’re AI controlled (and it’s not even a good AI).
I never had this feeling. It’s an RPG, I can build and control only my character
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It’s fairly common for CRPGs to give you full control over your party and their builds. I’m pretty sure you could in the original Wasteland (I’ll admit I never played it), which was a game that heavily influenced Fallout.
Btw those are also on sale. Steam has a Fallout Classics bundle with FO1, FO2, and FO Tactics for $5
I got that free game from Epic a while back: Encased. It took the isometric gameplay/feel from the first 2.5 fallout games and modernized them pretty well. I haven’t finished it (my character is a psychic god. it’s fun, but I’ve kind of lost the thread of the story. I think I’m in act 3 or something) but a mod porting FO1 or FO2 to that engine would be sweet.
I have a space in my heart reserved for Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel. :')
Fallout4 has so much nonsense “game” in it with the way levels work. All of the modern ones are pretty bad about it (“headshot on the naked bandit! … he’s fine, he’s level 30”), but FO4 was especially egregious.
Also the way it does power armor is kind of stupid. You can tell they wanted to have power armor early on for some marketing wow, but it cheapened it for me.
See, what they need to do is update the graphics on 1 & 2. I would definitely replay those, bugs and all. Bozar was of course OP but the way it was so story driven was excellent.
The only issue is the potato graphics.
Not only the graphic, the control is clunky and the UI is hard to navigate, it need to be remastered with QOL update to modern standard. I can look past the graphic but the control really need a lot of getting used to.
I usually don’t really care about the graphics, but these Bethesda games are just ugly as fuck. It’s the kind of ugly i can’t deal with.
Emm we’re talking about FO1/2 tho.
I think that’s a little harsh. Can I ask what you feel is wrong with the graphics as they are?
I’m currently playing Fallout and my only issue is the UI scaling, the graphics themselves I find quite charming.
I really like Fallout 3 but the ton of invisible walls and the shitty metro tunnels turn it into a game I often hate to play.
The main problem with FO4 is the voiced PC and the asinine dialogue structure. The map is amazing, I’d argue it’s better than the F:NV map.
I played 3 and NV on 360, both games were badly marred by being as much loading zone as they were game. Ruined the experience of snooping around for loot and side quests as opening a door back into the wasteland could take minutes. I had to stick to mostly the main quest.
4 was a far better “game” for being played on PC, but I agree NV plot was great. I just didn’t want to replay and get the different endings, as the game itself was painful to play.
I should replay them on PC someday, especially if there are graphical update mods available.