• Gunpachi@lemmings.world
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      I have used Freebsd for sometime on my desktop back in 2021. For the most part I had a good experience except that I couldn’t figure out how to connect earphones/mic on the ports on my PC case. I had to plug it directly to my motherboard for Freebsd to detect them. I used an Nvidia card at that time and it also worked very nicely although it had much older drivers than Linux.

      I ended up switching back to linux because of 2 reasons -

      1. I have a few BTRFS drives that I use regularly and couldn’t afford to buy some new ones for Freebsd at that time.

      2. I couldn’t play games using steam proton. I don’t know the situation these days, but I’ll surely check it out If it has improved since then.

      You should give Freebsd a try, you might like it.

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        They also sell non-DRM software. And most importantly they invest the money they make from selling those games into developing Linux so it’s better for everyone, I’ll take a corporation that uses my money to make things better for myself than one that sells “only” DRM free" games (when it’s convenient, because GoG also sells DRMd games in case you didn’t knew)

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      It’s still coming, I have tried to switch using my desktop but still have. Needed to swap back to windows for stability.

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      Year of the Steam Deck. Linux still not ready for mainstream desktop usage :(

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          I don’t get why people find that funny, he’s absolutely right. It’s gotten better but Linux is still requiring a lot more tinkering compared to Windows, and mainstream doesn’t do tinkering. Let me give some examples as well.

          I have windows and fedora dual booted. I also have 4 physical drives in the PC, 1 for windows, 1 for Linux and then 2 separate drives to keep windows data and Linux data. If I do a clean install of windows and want to play steam games all I need to do is let windows update run, install steam, direct steam to access the downloaded games on my secondary drive and the rest is “Steam magic”. If I do a clean install of Fedora and I want to play Steam I have to do system update, then manually install graphics drivers, then install steam, then mount the secondary drive then direct to steam to the secondary drive and the rest is “Steam magic”. If I don’t want to do the last two steps again, because Fedora doesn’t automount secondary drives, I need to also set up automounting by messing with the terminal and confog files. Honestly, you lost the mainstream gamer the moment they had to manually install graphics card drivers (because you need to do it through a terminal).

          Another less important example, but one I still found funny, is when I wanted to make a new distro installer. I’ve used balena etcher to flash my stick on Windows, but I didn’t want to reboot into It Windows so I installed it on Fedora, downloaded the image I wanted to flash, started balena and added the file. I get some header error. I didn’t feel like troubleshooting so I reboot into Windows, download the exact same image, started balena and added the file. No errors and I could flash without any issues. Same file and (in theory) same software but it works on Windows and doesn’t work on Linux.

          And of course there’s the Nvidia cards sucking thing, which is not at all suitable for mainstream considering almost 80% of steam users are using Nvidia cards. I get that’s almost entirely Nvidias fault but it’s still an issue with Linux. When your entire system black screens as KDE plasma is booting up even an above average user is not going to know how to troubleshoot that.

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            Linux is still requiring a lot more tinkering compared to Windows

            As a long time windows user who’s just got a side install of Mint for funnies until.a faster drive I can dedicate to it arrives: lol, no. That’s why people are laughing at them.

            I use fedora and have to…

            Pick a less annoying distro then, babe. I installed Steam in one click (during OS setup actually) and then logged in, enabled proton, and started using it with the games on an external drive. Literally easier than windows cuz Mint installed it with the OS and I didn’t have to go to Steams website.

            nVidia cards sucking thing

            My 2080TI has worked flawlessly on Mint without any tinkering. Used the Nvidia driver manager thing and boom, running games. They even run at a bigger fps on average (about 10%).

            Sounds like you used a specific distro and think those problems exist with every version of Linux. They do not, and there’s a reason why Mint is most often the recommended distro for those unwilling to tinker

            And I’m not even gonna pretend that Mint is perfect, it’s not! For example my sound card just doesn’t work in it despite the OS being aware of literally every aspect of it. But the issues I’ve had daily driving it have been LESS than daily driving windows 10 even after said win 10 install has already had years of customization and tweaking done to it.

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              You do realize that just kicks the ball down to a different problem that prevents from mainstream use, picking the wrong distro?

              That said I’ll give mint a go.

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            It’s gotten better but Linux is still requiring a lot more tinkering compared to Windows

            Depends on the distro, and if unique or ancient hardware is being used.

            I use Fedora/KDE (I believe it has better hardware support).

            During install I click one checkbox for using proprietary code, and then everything just works. I code, office/print/scan, and game on it daily.

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        My computer illiterate mother in law that has been using Linux for years strongly disagrees.

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          Sorry, Linux is ready for basic usage such as web browsing and creating a document.

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            It’s ready for a lot more than that, can you tell me something that Linux can’t do without mentioning a third party company that refuses to support Linux?

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        No idea why you’re being downvoted. I wish I could daily-drive Linux on my laptop, but that would come at the cost of slashed battery life, permanently on keyboard backlight, no more fingerprint sensor, issues with speakers and so on. Even after years of honourable enthusiasts trying to reverse-engineer the Windows drivers, it’s just still not there. Laptops will take a while to follow suite, but Linux really does need to take a larger portion of the market before manufacturers start being interested in Linux support.

        And before I also get downvoted, yes you can get a 10 year old ThinkPad and happily install Linux on it, but please realize that not all people want to limit themselves in their choice of hardware and it’s the software that should adapt to the hardware, not the other way around.

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          Yes. Just yes ahah

          I switched to linux on my laptop i had to do 4 reinstall to get my nvidia gpu to work and as of late my speaker arent recognised anymore, despite reinstaling pulse and alsa. One of my informatitian friend that has a linux laptop had gpu issue too, the laptop at work need frequent overseeing by the it to work properly etc etc…

          I love linux and I truly think we NEED to get our hands back on our tech, and understand better the technology we use, but yeah… If you really need your laptop to be fully operational quickly and you’re not tech savvy well think twice…

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        I agree, I haven’t experienced the stereotypical “WiFi doesn’t work” (except for a college network), but I have had issues with screen brightness not working (though seems to be fixed in newer versions), and issues with the Nvidia graphics card that I can’t just swap out with an AMD because it’s a laptop and I don’t want to buy a whole new one.

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    Guys I have a foolproof plan to reach 10%

    spoiler
    • Stop using GNOME as default DE
    • Throw cash money at Wayland devs and hire an assassin to harass slap Nvidia’s CEO
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      I love Libadwaita. It’s so good I started to use it to develop general cross platform apps

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        Does “cross platform apps” include Windows in your case? If so, how is your experience compiling and packaging a libadwaita app for Windows?

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          Hey, sorry for the late answer, but I think you might be interested in this:
          First of all, as a disclaimer: I’m not a professional front-end developer. I’m usually doing backend stuff and this is the first time I wanted to program a cross-platform desktop app. I spent a lot of time researching and settled on GTK / Libadwaita.
          And I actually spent the last months building and packaging the project for every platform. With every platform I mean macOS, Linux and Windows. I strongly recommend doing this with a CI pipeline as there are many specific steps you need to follow.
          I will provide a template on Github when I’m finished as well as a more in-depth blog post about all the steps and explanations. The main problem is that most is not documented at all and what’s documented is super outdated. So I had to figure out many things by myself. But the actual process, when you know how to do it, isn’t even really hard. I’ll post the links to the template here when I finished it all but it might still take some months as I currently also have other stuff to do.

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      Stop using GNOME as default DE

      No need to go as far. Just jail everyone working on Adwaita.

      They always acted like the are the only ones in town, but while checking the spelling just now, the first result says “Adwaita (from अद्वैत, meaning “one and only” in Sanskrit)” The serious UX designers were a joke to them from the start.

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    I tried a few games on Linux and I spent more time looking for why one game wasn’t saving my game and why another game wouldn’t actually launch with no error messages then actually playing a game.

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      The only games thus far that I couldn’t get to work were pirated. Id say 80%+ pirated work, and so far all legit games. Even weird launchers like FF14 (stock, not the 3rd party) and Guild Wars 2. And then of course Steam does most the work.

      Everyone’s mileage varies, obvs, plus there’s different distros and games.

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        I’ve just recently gotten into this and installed steam through ubuntu’s store. Could be why it thought subnautica was on Linux and let me download it. I uninstalled and installed through apt-get this time, hopefully that fixes that issue.

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          Having issue with the Steam snap isn’t surprising, as even Valve recommends against using it. A few years ago flatpak Steam had similar issues that got fixed over time.

          For now I hope you’ll have more luck with the .deb!

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            Sounds way too confusing, and goes against the whole idea that “Linux is easier than Windows because it has an App Store” and “you don’t have to use the command line”.

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              Yes, it’s sad that Canonical is pushing Snap before those kinks are ironed out. In general it’s a solid distro for people not familiar with Linux, but having to stumble over those issues is a dealbreaker.

              Linux being easier than Windows is true in some ways, but it completely sidesteps issues Windows and macOS solved for a while, e.g. forcing users to upgrade. It’s annoying but some people just… don’t do the bare minimum. E.g. a friend’s dad has been using Linux for probably a decade by now, and for some reason apt auto upgrades broke (likely powerloss during upgrade). An image based OS like Fedora Atomic doesn’t have this issue, as it won’t apply updates to the running OS (by default).

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          Hmmm? You can run Subnautica on Linux through Steam, as you can run most games written for Windows.

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            Well, I’ve tried subnautica and BG3 and hitting play on either would just not do anything. Saves in Civ6 wouldn’t work either.

            Troubleshooting BG3 is a hassle mainly due to it’s such a big game and I have a dumb internet data cap.

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              I don’t have Subnautica but it is on my wishlist because you can play in VR, which is what I mostly play these days. PCVR is not as reliable on Linux as standard games, but nevertheless more than 50% of titles do work flawlessly now. Subnautica is definitely one of them - you should check for other people who’ve got your problem on ProtonDB. If you actually care, look into it more, you should be able to get all of those games running.

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          I play Subnautica on Fedora/Linux, installed directly from Steam (native), so I’m guessing it let you download it because with Proton enabled it’ll play just fine.

          Just right click on the game and go into the properties and turn on the Windows/Proton support for the game.

          As a side comment, I love Subnautica, a great game!