• Corroded
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      10 months ago

      I feel like that’s a hard one. Whenever I argue against tipping with coworkers (we don’t currently work in the service industry) they will mention how they are all for it and mention how during peak times they made double their usual amount. I feel like it’s really been drilled in that it’s good for the workers

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        10 months ago

        That element of it — when the restaurant is doing well, the windfall is shared with the waitstaff — could be preserved by simply giving the staff a percentage of the price of each meal they work on. Structure it as a bonus, the way salaried professionals can receive a bonus when the company is doing well.

        It may be worth noting that worker-owned restaurants, like Cheese Board Pizza here in Berkeley, typically do not solicit tips. (Well, except for the live musicians, who are not worker-owners.) If tipping was really all that great for the workers, then places where the workers literally control company policy would encourage it.

        • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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          610 months ago

          Not necessarily. I don’t know about New York, but in Illinois it’s illegal for owners or management to receive tips.

            • ℕ𝕖𝕞𝕠
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              210 months ago

              Are you sure? Even when I’ve been at places where the owner works, those owners haven’t taken tips, instead splitting any they receive among the other staff.

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                  Important distinction! All the places I worked where the owners also worked were pool houses, and as you said, owners can’t take from a pool.

                  One of the best guys I ever worked for used to say, “Those are your tips. When the restaurant does well, that’s my tip.”.

      • @MJBrune@beehaw.org
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        2510 months ago

        Absolutely, those who get high tips stay in the industry. Those who get low tips are fired. Places don’t keep those who aren’t tipped well because it means they have to pay more out of the budget. If you aren’t getting high tips you are seen as lazy or not doing enough as a waiter. In reality tipping has more to do with who you get as customers (and what they find attractive) than quality of service. https://scroll.in/article/860274/does-tipping-really-ensure-better-service-probably-not

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        810 months ago

        Just another way to divide. Typically FOH staff get all or most of the share, while cooks get screwed, in my experience.

    • @dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee
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      1010 months ago

      In Norway, restaurants started to implement applications or websites to order at the restaurant. Scan a QR code or download an app (yuck) to order the food and preemptively pay for it. While that might be fine, I find it really strange when I’m asked about tipping when I place my order. I have literally not seen a waiter, I have just sat down and looked through a website, and now I’m asked if I want to tip? Why? What for?

      Luckily, 0% tip is very common in all services in Norway, so it’s not considered rude to refrain from tipping.