Even if there were a “biological advantage” the only reason people started to pretend to care about women’s sports is because it’s a way to alienate trans people. If there were a good faith discussion being had, it wouldnt be so infuriating.
I hope that something good comes from all this in the end.
Even with the high profile cases that got blasted all over the news (ex. Lia Thomas, Laurel Hubbard) it’s never talked about how those athletes still performed within the same range as their cis female competitors, even if they did perform well.
Lia Thomas won a Division I championship, but what’s never mentioned is that her times are comparable to the previous years cis woman. Likewise, Laurel Hubbard qualified for the olympics, but no one talks about how she never ended up even placing.
People like to talk about how trans women are going to smash records etc. but rarely does anyone go back and see if they actually did. Which gives away the game.
Even if there is a “biological advantage”, sports have had “biological advantages” all the time. Some people are taller than others, or have longer legs than others. All of the reactionary people don’t care about fairness in sports because sports have never been fair.
I agree. But, for the sake of just exploring the thought process… IF the idea of trans women absolutely dominating cis women in sports were accurate (which does not seem to be the case), it would be something to discuss from a good faith perspective. Should we pivot to weight classes? Should there be a trans lady league? How do nonbinary folks fit in to this whole thing? Sports are inherently unfair, but that doesn’t mean there’s no room to talk about how we want sports to be.
It’s really exhausting when every aspect of your life as a trans person has become politicized, because there are differences between cis and trans people generally, and they are worth talking about. Maybe one day discussions can be had that aren’t simply thinly veiled transphobic talking points.
Even if there were a “biological advantage” the only reason people started to pretend to care about women’s sports is because it’s a way to alienate trans people. If there were a good faith discussion being had, it wouldnt be so infuriating.
I hope that something good comes from all this in the end.
Even with the high profile cases that got blasted all over the news (ex. Lia Thomas, Laurel Hubbard) it’s never talked about how those athletes still performed within the same range as their cis female competitors, even if they did perform well.
Lia Thomas won a Division I championship, but what’s never mentioned is that her times are comparable to the previous years cis woman. Likewise, Laurel Hubbard qualified for the olympics, but no one talks about how she never ended up even placing.
People like to talk about how trans women are going to smash records etc. but rarely does anyone go back and see if they actually did. Which gives away the game.
Even if there is a “biological advantage”, sports have had “biological advantages” all the time. Some people are taller than others, or have longer legs than others. All of the reactionary people don’t care about fairness in sports because sports have never been fair.
I agree. But, for the sake of just exploring the thought process… IF the idea of trans women absolutely dominating cis women in sports were accurate (which does not seem to be the case), it would be something to discuss from a good faith perspective. Should we pivot to weight classes? Should there be a trans lady league? How do nonbinary folks fit in to this whole thing? Sports are inherently unfair, but that doesn’t mean there’s no room to talk about how we want sports to be.
It’s really exhausting when every aspect of your life as a trans person has become politicized, because there are differences between cis and trans people generally, and they are worth talking about. Maybe one day discussions can be had that aren’t simply thinly veiled transphobic talking points.