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    9 months ago

    $150,000? No thanks.

    Build communal housing. Apartments owned by residents. These tiny house suburbs are a horrible waste of space and resources.

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    At that point you may as well just have an apartment complex with a park. Single family homes for the sake of it at the very edge of praticality. This is the last dieing breath of a failing model of housing

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      9 months ago

      R O W H O U S I N G.

      Gardening, owning a workshop, are two hobbies which are pretty much impossible in apartment complexes (as are many other things which are deal-breakers to anyone with enough income to have an opinion on the matter). However to think it’s either “apartment complex” or “detached house with five parking spots and a grass monoculture” is a false dichotomy. A terraced house with 3 stories and a basement used to be the standard for the working class where I live, and it is a huge shame they went out of fashion.

      Row housing sits halfway between apartment buildings and detached houses, density-wise. Maybe much closer to apartments if you’re comparing against low-rises with ample green space.

      This is obviously the niche that the trend in the article tries to fill, while failing hard due to zoning laws forbidding terraced housing despite the fact that the exact same lots would immediately double the livable space at almost zero cost (besides a few grand in fireproof and soundproof materials I guess).

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    Why are they still detached? So much wasted space here.
    Nad might aswell build up, 3 stories, shops at the bottom and apartments up top.
    Oh wait, thats illegal in most areas of the US… good ol Freedumb

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      They are doing this in the US currently. The problem here is that corp America has fucked us all so hard that when buying a house you’re not just competing with people more well off than you but companies with bottomless pockets.

      so you either live far from where you work or have to live up your neighbors ass in one of these type of buildings whose units aren’t any more affordable. Not everyone wants that despite your insistence that AmErIcAn FrEeDuMb is to blame.

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      This was my thought. They are just making tiny houses. Why not put up a building instead, which is more efficient anyway?

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    I would have loved one of these as a young single guy. Far better than a similarly sized studio apartment that doesn’t gain me any equity. The real estate market has been pushing people to buy more than they need (and more than they can afford) for years. I assume these are on concrete slabs, but if they had a full basement it would be plenty of space.

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      People are framing this like its a dystopian nightmare. The fact is that you SHOULD be able to buy a small 2 bedroom something when you’re young. It doesnt need to be huge or glamorous.

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        Seriously. Housing supply is not the issue despite what the media wants to scream at you. The issue is the vast majority of new developments are massive McMansions that the average person has absolutely no hope of ever affording. The concept of a starter home is basically dead.

        I recently finally got it through my family’s skull that, no, I can’t just go build a garage and slowly build onto it as I can afford like my great-grandparents dide. That starter homes are essentially nonexistent, and that a fairly large portion of those that do are being bought up and demolished to be turned into McMansions.

        This is a good thing, even if the causes are not.

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        Ths dystopian part is the cost. When I first opened article I was like ok if these are under 50k maybe it makes sense

        He paid $145,000

        145k in the paradise known as San Antonio Texas…

        Unless family is keeping him there I don’t understand. Even if family was the reason I’d still expand my search to an hour or 3 away before I bought that.

        Just 90 minutes out gets you a nicely built brick house in Beeville with a 2 car attached garage on a corner lot with a fenced in yard so your dog can run around.

        For the same price you can get way nicer properties in better states. If you’re not willing to move you’re making life harder than it needs to be.

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      I don’t think they do but with a basement I could maybe manage but it would be a tight squeeze for a couple.

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        We have done 399 and it was just fine. Even had a portable washer that we pulled out of the closet every Sunday. People tend to overestimate how much space they really need, probably because their furniture is gigantic.

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    I kinda echo the comments, just build apartments with really good soundproofing. Give everyone their own little yard and have a nice community garden. Add a restaurant or real bakery to the ground floor. Have a grocery store a block away.

  • Kit
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    I’m OK with smaller houses. They’re easier to take care of, cheaper to maintain, and use less utilities.

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      Smaller, absolutely, but are you able to visualize what 400 ft² looks like? Because I’ve lived in an apartment that was a little under 500 ft² and it was not enough for two people to live in anything like comfort.

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        I lived in a 400-something square foot apartment with my girlfriend for a few years, and we were comfortable. We of course wanted more space, but we were comfortable.

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          Most people require at least a modicum of privacy occasionally. In fact, even extroverts require that. It’s just not healthy to basically always be in the same tiny room with your partner.

          Also, I’m guessing neither of you had any sort of IBD. Because you really want a little space with that.

          • Kit
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            The secret is to leave the house without your partner regularly. Each person should have their own social life so the other gets their alone time to recharge. Even things like going to the grocery store, walking the dog, or staying late at work helps in this scenario.

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              Not sufficiently. Walking the dog takes like 5 to 20 minutes. People need more than that. Staying late at work? That’s just a terrible suggestion.

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                I wasn’t suggesting that you purposely stay late at work to avoid your partner. I’m saying that it’s something that realistically happens.

                There’s also the gym, hobby shops, whatever you enjoy doing outside of the house. Staying attached to your partner at the hip is a horrible habit for long-term success.

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            We were just fine. In fact it took us time to adjust to a new place because we were used to being able to speak casually from any party to any other part of the house.

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            The bathroom had a door that closed, and when things were gonna be especially noisy we asked the other person to put on headphones. But the reality is that regardless of living space size, most people in long term relationships hear plenty of body noises from their partner and are generally fine with it.

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              Yeah, but good luck if you both need to use the bathroom at the same time. 400 ft² is not enough for more than one person unless you are destitute with no other choice.

      • stoly@lemmy.world
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        I have lived in 399 and we were perfectly happy. You don’t need all the stuff you have.

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    Tiny Homes and Micro Apartments can be very comfortable if they are built correctly. A 400s2 box built without thought will NOT be comfortable.
    There are so many people all over the world doing this and finding solutions.
    If you like this stuff check out this channel, it’s not my channel, but she really covers some innovative people.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/kirstendirksen/videos

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      Not only that but I highly doubt these homes are built to last. They put them up as fast as they can and trim every corner to make an extra buck.

      You could buy a well built century old brick house for what they’re charging. Some people have an affinity for shiny new stuff, no matter how shoddy it turns out to be.

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      I lived in a 500 sq ft apartment for a couple of years and it was comfortable for my rabbit and me. Unless I wanted a guest over.

  • ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world
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    As part of a multi-generational family of 4 adults and a tween I couldn’t imagine living in less than 2000 sq. ft. But for a couple I think this would be ok.