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    It’s a native feature of the device that allows its user to get enormous amounts of attention, in real life and subsequently online, by simply wearing it in public.

    Sounds horrible. I guess I’m not someone who seeks attention at any cost like some people, it public is the last situation I’d use this thing in. I would feel like a complete dumbass wearing it at a coffee shop and waving my hands around.

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      It’s the same problem google glass had. It can be the most information rich and user friendly device in the world but if you look like a dingus wearing it, it will never catch on.

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      Its a 3500 dollar computer you wear on your face, that can only perform basic computing tasks which can more cheaply be performed on a cell phone, draws enormous amounts of attention to the user when used in public spaces, and both the ability to use it in public spaces and the attention drawing nature of it are marketed as pros.

      Ok, so its now exceedingly clear that anyone who would get this thing is a wealthy idiot who has 0 experience with an impoverished community, as if you walked through a poorer area, you would just get mugged and have this high value device stolen from you.

      And frankly at this point I would morally support that happening.

      Not that it likely will, as anyone both dumb amd rich enough to have this happen to them generally has no kind of on foot commute through any such impoverished area.

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      The creator of the Apollo app recently tooted about wearing his out in public, getting noticed, and then secreting away to his hotel because the attention made him uncomfortable.

      I’m probably more of an Apple fan than I like, but I can’t imagine owning one of these, let alone wearing it out in public.
      It seems like Apple kind of forgot that good tech should first be good tech. They’re leaning heavy on this being a lifestyle item, but like - there’s no lifestyle out there that hinges on looking like boring versions of the guy from ready player one.

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        @christianselig@mastodon.social

        Made the mistake of wearing the Vision Pro at a coworking space and some youths saw it through the window and started yelling “YOOOOO Vision Pro!! yoooooo” so now I’m going to my hotel

        lmao, poor guy.

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        That makes sense… he’s a fairly normal person. I could see using the Vision Pro at a co-working place anyway, especially for someone who’s an iOS app developer.

        It does seem like an oddly clunky device by Apple standards. I don’t find the overall idea abhorrent and could picture owning one down the road - perhaps after they’ve had a few years to make the device smaller and less expensive. I have no idea what I’d use it for though. Maybe once there are more exciting games than repackaged mobile games like Super Mega Fruit Ninja.

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          Oh, yeah. More power to him. A later post by him said that the app he’s developing for it has already paid for the cost of the headset. I fully believe he’s just out there working.

          I’m hoping in a few generations, when they’ve got the form factor worked out, and the price under control, that it’ll be more to my liking.
          I don’t think I would ever want to interact with someone while wearing it, but it could be great for all the things VR is great for, but without the creepy Facebook privacy invasion. (I know - Apple is slipping down that slope, too. They’re just not as far down it yet.)

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        Simple solution. Kensington lock attached to the gonads. The device can helpfully warn others against theft with an LED projection on the wearer saying Big Cojone Security is active.

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      I want it like crazy. No chance I’ll wear it in public after I pull the trigger.

      I probably would throw it in my backpack on hikes to do some captures of stuff like waterfalls and nice mountain views. They’re really nice and not something you can do with my regular camera.

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          So I asked, and you can’t do captures to use for the backgrounds with the headset (I’m guessing they use better equipment and maybe some processing), but it does do “spatial photos and video”. That was part of the demo in the store and they’re really impressive. The 15 pro can also capture a 3D video that still looks cool, but has noticeably less depth than the captures with the headset.

          I’m not sure the exact technical details, but there are a whole bunch of cameras and other sensors. I’m assuming it uses all of them combined to capture the 3D photos. But there was a lot of depth in the version I saw in the demo.

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        That’s why I bought one. To record spatial videos. I already tried it and without the straps (which pop off easily) you just pick it up and hold it like a camera, record video with your hands on it like a camcorder, then put it back down. It’s very much like just putting an old school camcorder to your eye for a few seconds. And there is no way in hell I’m wearing it in public except on an airplane maybe

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    They bought themselves into a beta test/focus group. Apple still doesn’t know what this will be. It might be a Newton MessagePad. Or it might be the iPhone.

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      Apple is great at polishing and packaging things that already exist. The iPhone was a better Blackberry, the iPod a better MP3 player, the iMac a better all-in-one PC… I have a hard time thinking of stuff they truly pioneered. The Newton maybe? That did not end well for them.

      If I had to bet, the Vision Pro will turn out to be a burnt pancake, but long term I have no doubt that something like it — something that augments reality one way or another — will become a thing. And in the meantime Apple has pockets more than deep enough to survive a failed Vision Pro.

      The backlash against them trying to innovate is kind of dumb though. They aimed high for a change, and taking risks like this should be lauded not laughed at.

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        The problem is they didn’t aim high enough. AR/VR lives or dies on software. And for what they launched, it barely has the OS, and apparently that thing, although very polished UX wise, on security it’s a swiss cheese. And few people has the pockets to develop apps for it.

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        They are still failing, in 2024, to put touch capability into their computers. This isn’t a company that does innovativion well, and it hasn’t been for over 15 years. It’s totally fine to scoff at this attempt.

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          I really don’t see touchscreens on laptops to be something to judge a company’s innovation on. I work in communications and I can really only think of two coworkers that personally own touchscreen laptops.

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          I have zero interest in touch screen on my laptop. It is not standard on Windows and has yet to show any really benefits.

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      There was quite a different reaction to the iPhone when it launched, so I’m pretty confident it’s not the latter.

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        I just meant as successful. They’ve had several. The original iPod. The iPad. They’ve also had duds. The newton. The HomePod. The Pippin. Ping

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    Do we really want to live in a world where people are walking around with these things on their face, gesturing around like they are insane?

    It’s bad enough to witness how awful public spaces have become since smartphones came out, but this is next level zombie.

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      It is inevitable to a degree. Obviously this is not the final form and I’m sure the goal is to make a more fashionable solution that fits into their phone/watch/airpods kind of edc strategy. But no doubt we’ll have a future where info is right there if we want it. This thing is the foray into developing that eventual product for Apple. To me it looks real dumb, but a sleeker version in the future that looks like glasses…well shit it might be nice to watch a show while washing dishes idk.

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        But no doubt we’ll have a future where info is right there if we want it.

        But we’re already there. It’s called a smartphone.

        The value add of replacing a pocket watch or a cellphone with a device about the same size that also fits in your pocket but also gives you access to all the world’s information in seconds is immense. And that’s why the smartphone revolutionized the world.

        The value add of having that information strapped to your face at all times is… just not worth the physical discomfort of having said device strapped to your face.

        I say this as a VR user. A device strapped over your face really sucks and you can’t wait to take it off. The only reason to tolerate it is that that’s the only way to trick your senses into thinking you are somewhere else.

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          I think they meant in the future when the form factor is the same as wearing glasses.

          My glasses are on my face every minute of every day, except when showering and sleeping. I’m uncomfortable when they’re not there - and not just because I can’t see, but because I’m so used to it.

          That’s probably the future - people being uncomfortable if a screen isn’t in their vision every waking moment, because it’s as physically comfortable and as “normal” as wearing glasses, and more comfortable than looking down at a phone.

          It’d be an amazing feat for technology, but similarly as dystopian as having a social media-feeding PC in your pocket, or just any PC if you’re another generation older. Future people will eat it up though, just like we eat up the phones.

          Now I’m imagining marketing where the old millennials are staring at their phones, and the young people are complaining about how grandpa never engages with other human beings or makes eye contact - but they’re still scrolling TikTok while talking to him.

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          It would be ar glasses I’d think, not a headset with a strap. At least that would be my guess as to the end state.

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        I was looking forward to the Google glass. Not because it was Google but because if a heavy hitter drops something more usually follow. To bad it flopped. I would love having something like that instead of my phone. Especially once there’s prescription versions of them.

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          I just want smart glasses like a smart watch. Show me notifications, let me decline calls, etc. I don’t want all the VR crap, just like 4 lines of text.

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            Given the ability to verbally ask a gpt something now, the goggles would have been a great thing to release in about a year from now.

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              That’s why they released the pro now, so in a year when they release the $1000 “cheap” ones people will jump at the opportunity to be a part of the “in” crowd. 🤮

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            I like to Google for questions I have. I would like for at least that much. Im with you on the rest. I don’t need for it to have video or anything like that. Just basic features and text googling.

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        Yea, while it’s way out of my price range and looks a little goofy, this is exactly what I’ve been hoping for as the next step to VR. AR (or whatever Apple wants to call it) is super fascinating, and will be pretty much the main reason for me to get a headset in the first place.

        While it may have issues, I’m really excited to see how the market reacts to it, hopefully occulus or another company will try and compete. Feels weird to say, but I’m hoping Apple finds success with it

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        there are rudimentary holo projectors, that are big and can only do a few flickering dots. they will probably become better. it will be less weird when other people see what you’re gesturing at. i think that’s where we’re headed

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      Sliders on Peacock Season 4 Episode 4, “Virtual Slide”. Worth watching as this episode from 1998 realistically conveys the dystopian potential of VR/AR headsets. The headsets are centrally controlled and wirelessly networked. Topics covered include privacy violations, IP theft, manipulation of reality, social decay, virtual image and body autonomy, nested reality. It’s only taken 26 years to create a convincing reality that allows someone to wear the headset publicly with minimal problems. The fact that Apple hit the target on a 1.0 product is actually frightening. What will another 30 years of development bring?

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      Do we really want to live in a world where people are walking around with these things on their face, gesturing around like they are insane?

      You’ve seen someone talk on radio earbuds when the phone’s in their pocket? It’s the second most creepy thing I’ve ever seen with a phone conversation.

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        I’ve had people looking at me while they are talking to people on concealed earbuds. It’s embarrassing if you respond to them as if they were actually talking to you. But how would you know who the hell they are talking to? 🤷‍♂️

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      I’m old enough to remember the advent of two of the most annoying pieces of electronics ever…

      1. The Bluetooth earpiece - which made everyone having a conversation look like they were either talking to themselves or possibly schizophrenic.

      2. Those god-awful push to talk walkie talkie type phones from mainly Nextel - which not only made you privy to the both parties conversation but had the freaking awfully loud and obnoxious beep in between switching parties talking. I wanted to strangle anyone using one in a restaurant.

      I’m not sure that as a species we are capable of being present in the moment and not searching for that next hit of dopamine from a device with a screen. And Lord knows I’m as guilty as the next person.

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        I’ve had the Nextel beep as my SMS tone for almost 20 years now. Phone is usually on vibrate but the tone is there.

        … I also have the “science is fun” song from Portal as my ringtone because it starts out with a noise that I can hear above the din and quickly gets really loud if I didn’t hear it. I had it as the Turret “hello?” sequence for a bit but that was super creepy.

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      It’s not even AR… Didn’t they back down from that? Isn’t it mixed reality or something?

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        How is augmented reality different from mixed reality? Genuine question. They sound like the same thing.

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          I believe AR overlays information about the real world where as mixed reality just shows you the real world with a few apps floating about

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            Yes, AR analyses your world and you and gives you more info about the reality, Mixed Reality just has your screens attend into the world without interacting with it. The only thing I saw that was really AR was the use with a MacBook as a screen.

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              You’re describing the difference between “passthrough” AR, and “look through” (or “optical”) AR.

              AR and MR or more pretty much interchangeable.

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                I don’t think so. For example with true AR you could look at something like a bus and have it tell you information like the schedule, route, if it’s running on time etc. This is done automatically and without user interaction. What the Vison Pro does is give you floating apps you can interact with

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                  There is nothing about the Vision Pro that prevents that from happening other than they haven’t implemented it.

                  The ability feature to automatically give you information about arbitrary things you’re looking at isn’t a requirement for “true AR”.

                  I’m not really defending vision pro, it seems pretty limited. But that doesn’t make it “not true AR” and MR doesn’t mean “crappy/inferior AR”

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          I didn’t see anyone mention this, but while this headset depicts the outside world when you are wearing it, you are viewing a camera feed of that world. True AR would be like google glass where it is a piece of glass with data projected onto it. Apples thing recreates the world around you and then adds in the applications, you are viewing the world through a filter.

          It could also just be marketing too because it seems like they are trying really hard to not make this look like some nerd shit.

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          They are the same thing. I think that they’re confusing it with the difference between “passthrough” AR (you watch an opaque display showing video of the outside world) and “see through” AR (which uses a transparent display that you look through to see the outside world).

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          Eh. It’s a bit more handwavey than that. It’s whatever you want it to be.

          Virtual reality was supposed to be simulated, but “actual still science fiction” levels of simulated. seamless 3d environment, intercepting nerve signals to look and intuitively control an avatar or ready player one had a haptic suit.

          AR stems from that and was supposed to be “the real world, but cyber”. Or “VR, but with real world elements”. In the novel “virtual light”, it’s supposed to overlay that “datasturce of cyberspace” on the real world. Even then it was never really clear what purpose cyberspace as a 3d world would have, what data looks like or should look like, and what the advantage of that visualization would be. Or why would rather see that than what the world looks like.

          Mixed reality is also that. Imo. It sounds the same to me too.

          The whole thing is like hand gesture control. It looked great in minority report, but we had it since one of the 2010s xboxs and it went absolutely nowhere.

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          That’s because it’s just marketing bullshit.

          The worst person you’ve ever met came up with it in a very upscale cube farm over a chai latte, don’t think too hard about it.

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          Virtual reality: everything you see is virtual.

          Augmented reality: adds a HUD on top of what you see in reality.

          Mixed reality: has virtual objects behind real objects, mixing both real and virtual

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      I hate Hate HATE that I’m going to say this: the iPad was just a bigger iPhone, yet here we are. It’s the perfect device for consumption and light work, yet people had no idea about what to do with it at first.

      I’m more irked about that thing being gigantic and strapped to your face, thought. It’s the next level of social isolation, in a level even higher that the one cause by smartphones, and I’m not ok with that. Companies actually want to hijack and sell your reality back to you.

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        I think part of the “what do I do with this” factor for the iPad was that Apple (and other companies still to this day) were so hell bent on making everything smaller and more compact that releasing a larger product was marketing whiplash. Not to mention that smartphones were being pitched as this “do everything device” so why would you need anything else?

        After you get over that marketing sugarcoating, it becomes pretty obvious what you’d use an iPad for. Internet and media consumption at a larger scale than your phone, easier on your eyes than a phone, but retains at least some of the lightweight smaller form factor that separates it from a regular laptop. Sure you didn’t have the stick it in your pocket advantage of a phone or the full keyboard and computational power of a laptop, but there was this in-between that for a modest fee, you could have the conveniences if you can live with/ignore the sacrifices.

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        I’m with you. AR and VR has potential, absolutely, but companies are not our friends and they’ll find ways to exploit these things to the detriment of us. They always do.

        We all know that these companies aren’t above lying straight to our faces. They’re even undermining the concept of ownership so they can milk us even further.

        It’s sad, but I don’t see a reality where this kind of tech being closed off and proprietary will ever end well.

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      And exactly to prove your point I want to mention phone cases with a cutout so you can see the apple logo.

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        And the whole green / blue messages bullshit. Apple never misses an opportunity to remind it’s users they’re paying a premium and everyone else is a plebe.

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          Or just which messages are SMS and which are an encrypted protocol. It was the users that turned that into a measure of status.

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            Except Apple will the ones that refused to allow iMessage on Android so it’s absolutely about status.

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              I don’t think it is good that they didn’t allow that but it seems non sequitur that means it is about status. I like to know if a message is sms or encrypted. Just like some jabber clients do for private messages. There should be some indication of the message status. And unless you can point to Apple indicating the intent of the colors is for social status and not an indication of protocol, I stand by that.

              And I know it is hard to cut through the “fuck Apple” narrative. But to me, they are just another one of many scumbag corporations. I just don’t see any evidence that the intent is social status. That was driven by conspicuous consumers.

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                You missed the news, I guess.

                Apple fully admitted a few times that it was intentional. It was 100% an artificially created mechanism to polarize users, and bully them into Apple’s “ecosystem”.

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                  I didn’t miss that; that just isn’t what it says. Well it is what you say, but that’s not what I’m disagreeing with. I agree with you.

                  iMessage on Android would simply serve to remove an obstacle to iPhone families giving their kids Android Phones.

                  I’m not saying it isn’t a dirty business trick design to lock consumers in. It is. I’m saying it isn’t clear to me that it is designed as a social status issue. That was driven by a large group the users. Even still what this article is talking about is not having iMessage on android, which is not at all what I was disputing. I’m saying the colors serve a functional purpose. Not saying “only a functional purpose” but useful nevertheless.

                  I won’t be surprised if android likewise distinguishes between sms and messages using the new protocol.

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        Don’t they all? I’ve never looked for a case showing the logo, but every case I’ve ever had show it

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      And besides the tech bros with the throw away money, many of the people who have bought this thing are “influencers” and now are having trouble figuring out how to make content with or about this thing, because it’s early adopter play tech and has very little actual use, so the influencers are the ones putting out videos like “what would I even do with this?”

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        Hilarious. It doesn’t even look cool to wear it. It’s slightly better than Google Glass, but what are you going to do with it?

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          What people seem to be doing with it is driving around in Tesla’s with it and looking like even larger burks than they usually do.

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          I mean, as I pointed out, before an App Store, not much. After an App Store and some competition there are crazy cool applications. Cooking? The device can show you how much of your food to chop, where to put it, visually measure a teaspoon or tablespoon or whatever for you, automatically start a timer when you get the chicken in the pan or whatever. Look up at the stars and see constellations, flights, weather, etc overlaid by your view. On-road gps directions where there is an arrow video game style showing you where to go. Apps that could assist in things like building legos by showing you which pieces to grab and where they go. Looking down over the earth while on a flight to see exactly what landmark/town/area/state you are looking at. There are awesome applications to the tech. Whether we will see them or not is a matter of speculation. Apple is advertising a 3500 dollar headset with cool hardware and boring ass software right now

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              BTW, I think I’ve read about new kinds of glass which change degree of translucency depending on ionization or something

              Yes it’s called electrochromic glass, although it’s actually more kind of glass laminate. But yeah it can be engineered in such a way as to change color depending on solar output or on the presents or absence of an electrical impulse. It’s been around for about 20 years but it’s only been practical for about 10.

              People have even already integrated it with transparent displays so all of the technology is already there. It just needs commercializing.

              Polestar apparently have a car with electrochromic glass in its windows so you can turn those into a computer display.

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            If I want to look at the world through a screen I’d stay home and watch a documentary.

            The camera they use will never have the acuity, color perception and dynamic range that your eyes have. It probably doesn’t work super well in dark environment and it’s definitely completely useless for stargazing.

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            but people have been cooking, monitoring the sky and roamed the world for some ten thousand years now. what’s the innovation here?

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          I always thought Google Glass looked pretty sleek. Much better than having a full VR set on your face. You had a full field of vision, just a small HUD.

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      Its just a cash grab company that didnt yet collapse, because of its hype around it and its fanboiiiiis. And everybody supporting apple are just those who are deeply invested into that closed ecosystem. If apple dies out for any reason, they are screwed because their products are bricked without apple.

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          Like big assholes? “With our products you feel like you are a better than others”? Yeah they started that shitty trend.

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            This is understated. They started it, and proved how incredibly successful misleading and exploiting consumers was. They (almost entirely) killed the replaceable batteries in phones, the headphone jack, and the persuit of genuine innovation.

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      I guess this is the new gold standard for douchebag detection. That used to be the gold apple watch, but this feels like a more glaring example.

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      Is Apple heading down the road of Windows now? Release beta software and use the scream test to debug it?

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        Nah, it just has no apps, a poor battery life and like all new Apple product lines will be massively put to shame by its successors.

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          It doesn’t have a poor battery life it has a poor battery design. If they put a decent battery on the damn thing it would be okay, it’s not particularly power hungry but apple just give it a gnat’s testicle of a battery.

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            The design makes perfect sense. You can trivially add an additional pack with capacity if that’s your use case. The included pack does the power management and has enough for plenty of people without being in the way, and it’s as simple as plugging in any source of USC-C power at appropriate specs to extend it.

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              That would be a fine argument if the device didn’t cost more than my mortgage repayments. But for device that expensive, they absolutely need to put a decent battery on the thing.

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                A “decent battery” is bigger and more weight to carry around that plenty of use cases don’t want or benefit from. It’s not small for cost reasons. It’s because it’s a worse device if you force it to be huge.

                The price is high, but only if you ignore how much tech is in it. A lesser but close dumb display from anyone else is thousands in its own.

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                  There isn’t a single use case that wouldn’t improve with a longer lifespan of the device.

                  It is nothing but Apple marketing bullshit to claim people want a small battery, and nothing but Apple greed to increase the profit by using worse components.

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                  Yes it’s got lots of cool tech in it, none of which does anything. Excuse me while I go and watch Netflix on a display that costs 1/10 of the money yet has thousands of times the functionality.

                  Being overly complicated doesn’t mean it’s worth money.

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    Apple Vision Pro Owners Are Struggling to Figure Out What They Just Bought

    Im struggling to figure out why Apple Vision Pro Owners threw out $3500 on a device without knowing what they can use it for

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      If Apple actually developed the technology in a sensible way, and that’s a big if, it could actually be a really interesting product.

      Right now it’s a bit limited as essentially it is a very very expensive second display which only works with Apple devices.

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      If I had so much money that 3500 dollars didn’t matter to me, I’d have one.

      From what I’ve seen on it, I’d play with it for a day and forget about it.

      Maybe an hour. Seems like it’s pretty cool but there’s nothing on the headset worth buying the headset for, even at half the cost. Even at a third.

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    A 4K USD electronic device that’s what they bought…if they needed its features not sure but… that’s what they bought.

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    The people who buy something like this (hopefully) have enough money where $3,500 doesn’t matter or are developers who want to get in early on something that might be big in a few versions.

    Everyone else should avoid.

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      These are the early adopters phase. This always happens with high-end tech. I’m not sure how advanced this set is compared to the competition in order to justify that price.

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    Yeah, but they have it, and in the end, isn’t that what matters?? /s

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    Seems like most people are saying “this is dope for media,” and outside of that, it’s a glorified dev kit.

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      Yes, “media”. That’s what I call porn too. That said, get a real VR headset.

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        Eh, I’m not buying the thing, but at least they’re doing some different stuff and have made some advancements for computing in AR / VR.

        I don’t see how this is any less “real” than the other headsets. It’s better with productivity and some multimedia stuff because of the crazy high PPI displays, but it also lacks a good game library at the moment, and the price to entry is pretty nuts.

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            Its not AR, an AR headset is something like HoloLens, this is just a VR headset with your eyes on the front.

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              Oh, OK. I haven’t been following it. I assumed it was AR because I saw something about someone walking around with it on. I don’t get it if it’s VR.

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            It’s being marketed as an AR headset, but it’s fully sealed and you can totally load up VR environments in it with no pass through.

            IMHO, they’re not mentioning “VR” in the marketing because the pure VR software library is anemic, and the mixed reality / AR hardware and software is really good.

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          I was so excited when they announced that and showed Minecraft just hanging out in the living room.

          I wouldn’t have used it long.

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          The technology wasn’t really there yet. The AR view was too small and the headset too big.

          It was also just marketed to business, so other than it being the new fad it didn’t really take off.

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      Arnt they all.

      I got the original vive which just my beatsaber player but due yo having a wife a job and chit to get done it lives in its protective case and when I do get a min yo use it both controler batteries are dead due to time living in a box

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        Jesus, reading this made me feel like I wrote this.

        I haven’t touched my headset in months

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          It’s why I ended up selling mine

          Made a pretty penny on it due to when I sold it

          I ended up selling it for $750 with the deluxe audio strap right around the time Halflife Alex came out

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          I gave my Index to my son who has the time and physicality to use it. I’m just too old for action gaming now.

          I would have loved it if I was 30 years younger. I can do more from a chair with my desktop PC than an Apple Vision Pro can. It’s just another Apple Con.

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        If they are, then this vision pro is truly extortion.

        VR requires a bit of setup, which is off putting. I dont have the space to have mine out all the time, theres also a shortage of high quality games. Waiting on Valve to push the envelope again.

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          Let’s be honest the min you see a picture of a half eaten apple on a thing just add a 0 to the price tag

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        Most modern headsets have passthrough, its not some new feature. It is the part that Apple focused on though.