• clearedtoland@lemmy.world
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    My god. This deliciously tasty excerpt:

    In various campaign biographies, a résumé and interviews, Mr. Santos said he graduated from Baruch College in New York City, where he was a volleyball star on a championship team. He boasted of working at Citigroup and Goldman Sachs and amassing personal wealth. He claimed to be descended from Holocaust refugees; that his mother was in the World Trade Center during the Sept. 11 attacks; and that he lost four employees in the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando.

    None of those claims were true.

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      The real question is where tf were the journalists while Santos was running his campaign on these false claims?

      Too busy playing horse race? Frantically trying to find something newsworthy about Hunter Biden’s laptop? Credulously glorifying some billionaire’s childish misconceptions?

      Guess we’ll never know.

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        Well, he’s a representative for New York, in a district for New York City itself. Long Island and “technically” a tiny bit of NYC. (I have been informed that his district is mostly Long Island)

        Let’s break this down into two parts, okay?

        1. Local journalism is dead, dead, dead, dead dead. Especially in big places like New York City, where everyone assumes that the New York Times will be covering things. They didn’t dig deep into Mayor Adams either, and that guy is under investigation now as well. They didn’t question his former police credentials after decades of police misconduct. Beyond that the NYT is more of a national newspaper than an actual local paper. I’m sure there are plenty of small independent news sources in New York City, but I’m also sure they’re mostly drowned out and ignored compared to how many people read something like the NYT.

        2. Corruption in New York City is literally, completely nothing new. Journalists have been failing to uncover unscrupulous activity for decades in this city. As I referenced mayor Adams above, this city filled with the rich, egotistical, and greedy, is a city built on the kind of lies George Santos peddles. How do I know? Because that city allowed Donald Trump to be a successful real estate developer using similar tactics. People have known he’s corrupt since forever, but plenty of his corruption was just ignored until decades later. Same with Rudy Guiliani and so on.

        Now I’m not saying we should just give up. Local journalism is important to fight for, and NYC being a corrupt hell-hole isn’t a permanent foregone conclusion. However, my point is that NYT employs far fewer reporters than you think to cover an entire country, and the dearth of real local news sources all over the country is contributing to these kind of people succeeding, because the local press is dead in the water and can’t afford to send someone researching local corruption.

        Pay for your local news, is what I am saying, I guess, and things might marginally improve.

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            I mean, it was always a lifestyle brand. Even back in the day you’d open the “Lifestyle” section of the paper, and it would be about how to afford that third house in the Hamptons. It’s always been clear who their market is aimed at.

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          Yeah, actual journalism is dead, especially since investigating stuff like this might get you raided by SWAT

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          the NYT is more of a national newspaper than an actual local paper

          These days, the NYT likes to think of itself as a tech company that also does some journalism. They’ve bought games like Wordle, they’re a podcasting company, they publish books…

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            Games and alternative media formats for journalists have always been a part of journalism. I’m not sure how embracing modern technology makes them any less of a news organization. Would you prefer only the crossword and only in print?

            A newspaper having a word game, a radio presence, and publishing books is not really a gotcha.

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          Worth pointing out part of the reason local journalism died is because it’s not financially viable.

          Because interest in local politics died.

          If people have a shit, journalist could make a living.

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          In NYC construction, it’s well known that Trump businesses would get bids contracted, then call a meeting before kickoff and demand that the primes and subs lower there price or they won’t honor the contract. Some contractors would already have materials purchased and running the clock on the Net30s with their vendors. Trump Co. would basically tell them to go pound salt and try to sue if you want.

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          He was a representative of long island not NYC, specifically the district my dad resides in so I get to poke fun at him for electing this absolute joke of an asshat lol

          Checking the map it looks like part of it might be in queens so “technically” some part of it is NYC, but it’s mostly rich long island assholes. (I wish my dad was rich, he’s just lucky to have had a house in that area for a long time) lol

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            You can tell I’m not from the area, because divisions like that are lost on me. I just know local news is hollowed out nationwide, and I somehow suspect it’s a similar situation for New York state as a whole. Thanks for the more detailed breakdown of his district for me.

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              Absolutely, local news would more than likely be “responsible” for covering him and they tend to favor the right, but not excessively thankfully.

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          Ah yes, clearly we should simply accept that corruption is endemic, unavoidable really, and expect our press to ignore it.

          Tale as old as time, I’m sure it’ll work out fine.

          They have more important things to focus on anyway! Like Hunter Biden’s laptop.

          And of course, Journalism’s collapsing payment model is entirely the public’s fault. Just give them more money you lazy bums!

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            Now I’m not saying we should just give up. Local journalism is important to fight for, and NYC being a corrupt hell-hole isn’t a permanent foregone conclusion.

            Nice complete misrepresentation of what I said, chucklefuck.

            EDIT: Also came back because like, you’re going to bitch about journalists not doing their job and then turn around and say its not our job to fund them. Pick a fucking lane. Do you care about journalism or not?

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              Oh I’m sorry, after re-reading it looks like you actually said we should fight for better journalism by skipping breakfast, or selling our plasma, and giving the money we save to the conglomerates providing our local news. Totally makes sense.

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                If you think journalists aren’t living the same way, you’re out of your mind. They need to be able to take care of themselves, too, to do their jobs.

                But cool, I guess the answer is fuck all journalism then, because you can’t be fucked to care about how it’s funded. You’re expecting it to just be handed to you by people who do it for the love of it, and then wonder why that doesn’t happen, when you yourself understand exactly why it can’t and you just explained it.

                What a fucking shitty crank. You don’t get what you want, so you want to tear down the whole thing, which is conveniently what you’ve accused me of. Do you do a lot of projection like this?

                I don’t exactly see you considering solutions, just a lot of bitching.

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                  Because you’re obviously struggling, what I’m saying that objective & effective journalism is vital to informed decision-making in a democracy, and we’re not getting it because journalism in the US is run as a business¸ which imo will always end with media focusing exclusively on whatever makes them the most money, irrespective of the truth. If we want real journalism we need to view it, and fund it, as a public service. The problem is systemic, and our news media will continue to fail us until the system is rectified.

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        Why are you blaming journalists and not the GOP for not vetting their own fucking candidate.

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        I remember seeing articles about this stuff during his election. Republicans elected him anyway. That’s where we are now

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        where tf were the journalists while Santos was running his campaign on these false claims?

        There aren’t enough journalists to go around. There are hundreds of congresspeople and there definitely aren’t hundreds of journalists covering random unimportant congresspeople.

        People have voted with their dollars, saying they don’t care enough about vetting congresspeople before they’re elected to actually pay the salaries of journalists to do that.

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          Wow, so It’s almost as if expecting unregulated capitalism to solve this problem is not working? How could that be?

          Oh well, I guess we just need to ignore the problem until it gets better.

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        Journalism as it used to exist has been absolutely gutted. There’s no time for investigation, we need endless content pumped out at faster and faster rates. Who cares what’s accurate as long as people click the link and give up that sweet, sweet ad revenue?

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    Jesus, after all the shit that has been uncovered about this fucker, 114 voted “No” to throw him out?

    Investigate those 114 motherfuckers.

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      It’s not rocket science. The only publicly said reason it’s never happened before is they want to respect the decision of their constituents. Unofficially, nobody wanted to see themselves on that chopping block.

      From a political scientist game theory point of view it’s possible that a majority faction of party A throws a minority faction of Party A on the chopping block and Party B obliges them because they think they can pick up those voters.

      So yeah, a lot of resistance to actually unseating someone. For good and bad reasons.

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    I can’t believe that they treated the first Congolese-American female PHD/Astronaut this way. Did she cure polio for nothing? You can’t do enough for some people.

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        At first, settlers had stuck to the edges of America, leaving the middle untouched, like a frozen pie in a microwave.

        But Americans back then weren’t the humble, unassuming people they still aren’t today.

        They believed in something called Manifest Destiny, the belief that all the land belonged to them and that God wanted them to go west and claim it back from the Native Americans he’d put there first by mistake.

        -Philomena Cunk from Cunk on Earth.

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      Nah he’s a piece of shit from my neck of the woods, he more than likely saw what Trump was able to get away with and said “I live in prime Trump moron land, I can pull this off.” So he lied about literally everything and almost got away with it lol I know 100 other people who would try the same thing.

      Most of us long islanders are absolute garbage selfish greedy assholes lol

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      This dude was a straight russian psy-op right?

      Well, he claims to be gay, but the rest is spot-on

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      Hey everyone, so here’s the deal with Santos aka Kitara Ravache: he’s totally heading back to Brazil, probably to chill on a reality show. But the real game plan? He’s gonna make bank selling some sketchy stuff and, get this, he’s got a pretty good chance of landing a gig as a deputy back there

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    Wow it finally happened. Now I wonder if they’ll take away his Grammy, 2 Oscar’s, MTV Movie Award, Nickelodeon Teen Choice Award, and induction into the Grand Ole Opry.

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    Now convict him of his crimes so he doesn’t have any of the other perks of Congress.

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      Well yes and no.

      The line was literally defrauding another republican and his mother.
      He could have kept on being as shit as he wants to the out-group, just never turn on the in-group, that has always been the line.

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    We live in historic times. Sixth congressman ejected. First speaker voted out. I wonder what happened around all the other historic times?

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    Goodbye to Rep. Evil Pee Wee Herman. He was often hilarious, but he had to go.