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      Israel isn’t just denying Hamas water, they are denying Palestinians water. That includes children and infants and uninvolved innocents.

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      Few people are worried about hamas. The concern is for the women and children. The people with no say in any of this. It’s not a crime to refuse to resupply an enemy, it is a crime to starve innocent people.

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                You’re making vague statements that the children of Gaza should be evacuated, but that’s not a solution unless you can tell me where they would be evacuated to.

                There are two and a half million people in the Gaza Strip. What place is going to accept two and a half million Palestinian refugees? Bear in mind that millions of Palestinians have already ended up as refugees throughout the region and that is already considered a huge problem. Nobody wants even more to deal with. So what country? Even if there were magical teleporters to get them there and everyone was willing to leave their homes forever, who’s going to take them in and support them?

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                  Okay well then fuck em I guess. Shrug. We’ve tried nothing and we’re all outta ideas. Without a complete and total answer for [random internet jackass] then nothing can be done.

                • Sentient Loom@sh.itjust.works
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                  You honestly expect me to have answers for this? All I can do is vaguely hope that some innocent civilians can escape. That’s literally all I have.

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                    If you’re going to propose it as a solution, then yes, I would expect you to have answers.

                    I’m not trying to be cruel. But hope should have some basis in reality, and “evacuation corridors” just aren’t going to be a thing for a significant number of people. The people in Gaza are trapped there.

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          Actually the only hope of truly lasting peace is the dissolution of Israel and the creation of a new state that doesn’t limit citizenship and suffrage along ethnic or religious lines.

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            This. Israel never should have been there in the first place. It’s stolen land, ruled by a tyrannical apartheid regime.

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            I doubt that would work. If history is to be of any indication then Palestinians also have no desire to co-exist with Israel. If the sides were reversed Palestine would be doing the exact same things as Israel is doing. Arabs want Israel gone and it’s been clear since the state of Israel was officially founded in 1948.

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              Founded is an odd way of writing colonized without any input or consideration by the people who were already living there.

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                If you want to blame anyone for that you can blame the brits for promising to establish a jewish state in Palestine and not really listening to the people living there.

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                  Well yeah, but the Israelis have given exactly 0 consideration to the Palestinians for that fact. Its not the fault of Palestinians no matter which way you cut it, and Britain isn’t in control of Israel. The Israeli state acts on its own behalf.

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                    To my knowledge Israelis were accepting of the UN Palestine Partition plan, the Arab league (alongside Palestinians) completely rejected the idea and threatened to exterminate all jews if the plan is enacted. So the idea that Israelis have given exactly 0 consideration just isn’t factual.

                    Now the subsequent expansions by Israel and their treatment of Gaza, that I agree is fully on Israel.

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          Reprogram? What exactly does that look like for curiosities sake. Because another ethnic group of Muslims, the Uyghurs, have had china attempting to “reprogram” them. And that has been pretty well universally condemned as an attempt at cultural genocide.

          Also, decimating hamas… how? By bombing Palestinian families? By depriving their hospitals of electricity and water? By, to quote Netanyahu the bastard that he is, “turning Gaza into a desert island”?

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          Noone wins a war of occupation. You either learn to live with conquered peoples and give them access tibequal rights (Roman empire) or completely erase the local population (Europeans in North America).

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      Same rhetoric as German occupiers claiming that they would not execute civilian hostages as long as Resistance fighters would give themselves up. Sorry for the Goldwyn point but you made it a low hanging fruit.

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      You are talking about an area of the world that is nearly 50% children.