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      They filibustered a bill that would’ve cut medicaid funding and shut down the government. The filibuster is literally all they have because voters gave Republicans a trifecta

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        I also wish they would call for protests over some of the heinous things. Break through with messaging. Make it clearer what the Republicans are doing. Some credit is due, though.

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      This is the wrong question. Instead of implying that California should secede and become independent one should flip the question and ask the same thing about Texas. If Texas seceded the U.S. would likely never have to cater to the Republicans again.

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      they specifically called out “CAL GRANTS”, which are student aid. It’s not direct funding, but helping students pay for college.

      I’m sure there are tons of research and other programs that directly benefit the state, and are supported by the state

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      Are you thinking of Universities? State colleges are generally extremely affordable, particularly with aide if it is available to you.

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        For some values of “extremely” maybe. Also many “state schools” are universities, so you probably should have gone with “private universities” instead. State schools are still an order of magnitude more expensive that most universities in Europe. If I was of school age now, I’d likely not be able to afford to go to college even with the scholarships that I had received.

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          I believe my local prices are in the realm of ~$150/credit hour. I am an advocate for free access to post-secondary education, but much of the discourse around egregious schooling costs are in reference to the substantially more expensive programs at full universities, state or private.

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    There are a lot of things I despise about Newsom, but at least he’s standing up to the MAGA scum.

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    It’s a beautiful thing to see my state leading the charge against MAGA. I’m sure a few other western states will join us when we inevitably break off.

    Of note, I was just telling my wife while we were out for a drive last weekend how much I’ve seen our state flag appearing on peoples homes now. Before Trump people in California rarely if ever displayed the Cali flag, but now I see it everywhere, especially in neighborhoods that typically didn’t have them before.

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        wasnt the whole point of the NCR about showing this dinosaur of an organization failing to adapt to the new state of the world, trying in futility to carry on under the old rules that lead to the worlds annihilation in the first place, repeating the same mistakes over and over while things are were now even less sustainable/forgiving…

        meanwhile the ceasers legion was harsh but fair, ceasers territory didn’t suffer bandit attacks any longer because ceasers legion when to great lengths to exterminate them and insure the conditions where they flourished didn’t exist

        bethesda just fucked em on dev time so they had to cut all content on ceasers side of the river

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          Ceasers Legion is a myopic hellstate that reduces women to sex slaves, and culturally genocides every tribe it conquers. It’s entirely dependent upon the leadership and personality cult of one guy with a brain tumor, and will fracture if not disintegrate upon his death. They refuse to use any of the old worlds technologies to such a point that they weaken themselves by shunning firearms and sicken themselves by rejecting stimpacks. The NCR is hardly perfect, but to call the Legion “fair” is absolutely ridiculous. “Tough but fair” applies way more to House than the Legion. To say nothing of the fact that you criticize the NCR for being too stuck in the old ways, but the Legion is just a rehash of even older society

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          That was definitely a theme of the NCR, but you are being grossly kind in your interpretation of Caeser’s Legion. They were horrific monsters that burned people alive. Their sadistic brutality was admittedly affective, but I’d rather join the Children of the Atom than those sick bastards.

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            no doubt about that, but the “these ruthless bastards are actually pretty good at imposing order upon the wasteland”-message gets kinda lost because all the CL-territory content got cut.

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              Order is not nnecessarilya good thing. Nazi Germany in 42 was certianly more orderly than the Weimar Republic it replaced, but you’d never chose to live there if you had to pick one of the two

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          I always thought the lack of content was intentional because CL was a very rigid society that gave people the option of crucifixion or conscription and essentially there was no freedom to do dumb bullshit in that society.

          The whole point of the game was that only house was taking the long view and orgs like NCR are the obvious response to CL which is just an even older model of society.

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            idk, i recall reading somewhere that dataminers dug up a bunch of CL-side of river content sitting unused. which would likely be result of constricted timeline bethesda gave em

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              I don’t know about the CL stuff specifically, but there was definitely a lot of content that got cut. Obsidian got screwed over by Bethesda hard. It is ironic that they are now both owned by shitty Microsoft.

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      It is inspiring.

      But I really wish we’d step up here on the East Coast. NY, MA, NJ, VT. All should be right out in front with you, but aren’t.

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        I can’t wait until y’all just balkanize already; I’m sure that when the dust settles, some parts of the former United States will be worth visiting. Until it happens and actual names are picked, I’ve been calling your chunk New New England

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        There’s a lot of old money up there. And if I’ve learned anything through 2 of his terms, it’s that money is willing to vote against its seemingly better judgement for a few dollars more of a tax break.

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            Guess we’ll see how that vision works out when investments and the consumer economy go kaput in a civil war and the aftermath. Never made sense to me to see capitalists support tearing down the system they thrive on. Do they think it won’t end? I guess these are the people that believe in infinite growth after all.

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        They have that new North East or New England health pact thing! They’re working on stuff, but I think they’re rightfully taking stock of what areas they can afford to hit back on. California can basically take care of itself so we have a lot less to lose if the feds try to shut us down.

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      It’s a beautiful thing to see my state leading the charge against MAGA. I’m sure a few other western states will join us when we inevitably break off.

      Damn straight. Proud Californian.

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      Millions will die in a war before the U.S. let’s California go anywhere. If California split from the U.S., the U.S. would start to default on all of the loans without forcing large amounts of the debt somehow onto California. Not to mention the number of military bases and equipment that exists there, the entire western seaboard would be considered a security threat.

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        Maybe, but freedom is worth fighting for.

        Also, remember that during the revolutionary war the French provided support. I’m sure there are lots of countries that, in a civil war, would join with California in providing defensive equipment and offensive weapons. We’re also 10% of the US population with a whole mountain range providing protection and desserts between us and the rest of the “mainland.” So logistically we’re covered very well if we really have to.

        They can consider us whatever they want as long as we’re winners I don’t care.

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          I’m sure there are lots of countries that, in a civil war, would join with California

          New England will. We’ve got them surrounded! I’ll bet we could hire the regressives to fight themselves. We’ll send waves and waves of Southerners against … the South

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          I’m sure there are lots of countries that, in a civil war, would join with California

          I bet Russia would jump on the opportunity

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      The funny thing is that this cycle of ego-fueled ignorance is precisely why they need so much immigration. It isn’t a numbers game, it’s about the people with the qualifications, and you have a lot less to choose from when you filter them by your own extreme nationalistic and regressive ideology.

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      Worrisome, sure. It’s step one in any anti-intellectual movement.

      Can’t have smart people because smart people will undermine you every step of the way. They’re doing it now.

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    This dude is doing exactly the same shit as trump and y’all are cheering… Jesus fucking Christ

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      “both sides the same” lololol fuck off with that Nazi bullshit. One side wants education, medical and freedom for all, one wants you to get on your knees and present papers.

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      Because going high when they go low has been a totally winning strategy for us up until this point, right?

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      Yea, why doesn’t Newsom just keep doing the exact same shit that got us here. Decorum over freedom, right?? We may be locked in prisons but we’ll have the moral hight ground!

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      Fighting fire with fire sets the whole neighborhood ablaze, sure, but this isn’t fire with fire. The current administration cut support and sent Marines in to patrol US streets. Newsome should punish those who cooperate with federally sanctioned hostile forces (don’t kid yourself, as a marine I can tell you we are only deployed against hostiles) but this measure doesn’t even explicitly punish. He’s just not supporting the supporters.

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      I’m all for using political avenues to fight a tyrant as first resort rather than mandatory evacuations and screaming orphans and rounds flying.

      They can play all the lowdown dirty pocket-sand political games they want if it prevents a civil war boogaloo scenario and involves less dead people.

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      JFC, anyone with more than 3 fucking braincells to rub together can plainly see he’s ridiculing Trump.

      Trump hates being laughed at because he’s a thin skinned little bitch.

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        Is that what this is? Is Newsom flipping tables?

        Around 800,000 Israelis live rent free with universal healthcare and education on stolen Palestinian land on your dime, your government is borrowing money from China to send to Israel to finish their US taxpayer funded genocide, and you’re comparing a guy who fully supports that to Jesus flipping tables because he’s threatening to cut funding to schools in his state?

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          Fascism is an ideology, not a bundle of tactics. Levereging funding cuts against institutions that don’t toe the party line is actually just politics.

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    Can we fucking secede already?*

    *I’m not even sure how much of that statement is a joke anymore.

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      He’s a slimy, self-serving, two-faced neoliberal villain.

      But right now, he’s the villain we have to team up with to fight a much, much, much worse villain. Just don’t forget that he’s not our friend and would happily burn us all alive for some modest corporate kickbacks.

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          He literally does photo ops tearing down homeless encampments. If you don’t have an issue with that, then I guess he is your guy. Yes, there are quite literally worse people, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t suck.

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        He’s only opposing fascists because his attempt to join them failed. He’s trying to walk a thin line of not pissing them off too much and getting them to think he’s worth recruiting. He’ll join them if they offer.

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          When did he “attempt to join them”? Not defending slimy Newsom, but what?

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            Hosting his brand new podcast with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon, the some of the most evil propagandists of the 21st century, was more extreme than we’d ever seen of him. He basically capitulated to a bunch of their talking points and acted like their positions weren’t previously too radical to platform amongst Democrats. It read to me as an attempt to not get targeted by upcoming violent purges and jail time, but after that failed he moved on to this cringe “own Trump on socials” strategy.

            On the other hand, he might not have failed to join them, instead acting explicitly as controlled opposition.

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      The epitome of limousine liberal.

      Completely owned by Big tech and VC.

      Everything he’s doing now is for his presidential run, but that doesn’t mean there’s no value to any of it.

      At this point, we’ll take what I can get, and he knows that.

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    Is fighting fire with fire and making threats the right approach? The ones who have the most to lose here are the kids. They picked where to study before any of this came to a head.

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      Yes, people need to stop kowtowing to this administration. If more people did, they’d have no power.

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    The goal is to shut down higher education for the masses. So it’s not really the best strategy.