Luigi shouldn’t be in jail at all. He was just looking out for several million of his friends.
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That was someone with very different eyebrows. The only thing we know about his appearance.
It couldn’t have been him, Luigi and I were fishing that day all day long. We both wept when we heard the news.
My mother was one of the ones without proper health care and the CEO death triggered a change that put her back on health care… Now I have to deal with her longer because she won’t die. A sad day truly, Luigi said so too
I know Italians grow hair fast, but not that fast.
As completely innocent people are wont to do
He should be released and compensated for the time he spent behind bars. He is innocent.
Everyone say it with me, “Luigi Mangione is an innocent man being framed by the government because they were unable to find the real culprit.”
#free Luigi
I’m really not convinced that’s the case. Either way I want him to walk free. Killing the CEO was the morally right thing to do. That CEO has been part of the system that has murdered thousands/millions out of pure greed.
I agree with you in theory, but I think we should all pretend he’s actually innocent
Don’t know how much pretending needs to be done, burden of proof is on the state and their evidence gathering was laughable, also not a single McDonald’s employee in the history of the universe has intentionally called the pigs, they all have drugs in their jackets and they’ll just come over the counter and fight you. Some mysterious do gooder called in a guy sitting quietly that led directly to the “shooter” and fully intact weapon ready to scoop up? Fuck outta here with that
Then again, we’re just playing Calvinball with the law now so who knows.
He is actually innocent. No need for jury nullification.
Well hold on. Being convinced of one’s innocence isn’t how that works. You have to be convinced that the evidence brought forward is sufficient to support the accusations. I have yet to see anything sufficiently convincing.
Taking it from the top, the only legitimate evidence you have to go on must be gathered from the scene of the crime. DNA, gunpowder, fingerprints. That sort of thing. But the only evidence is that they found an Italian in New York? Be so fucking for real. Remember, the backpack was reported to be discarded several times. Law enforcement couldn’t even agree on WHERE the final backpack was sourced. And even IF the backpack did belong to Luigi, none of what was inside is proof that he stood where the shooter stood. There is no proof physically connecting him to the point in space where the shooting occurred. That’s the only evidence I care about. You need to rationalize the lack of evidence connecting luigi to that physical spot in New York.
The CCTV footage is spotty and inconsistent. That’s like LAPD losing a car in a high speed chase, not being able to see the license plate and catching some random guy who drives the same model car several days later.
They found an Italian in New York. That’s the only thing I’ve been convinced of.
I would vote not guilty no matter what if I was on his jury. Billionaires and major corporate CEOs need to live in fear for how they treat people. They kill tons of people with their callousness and greed.
Stick me on that same jury. Not guilty x2.
It’s literally self defense at this point.
I bet they will “randomly” find a jury that doesn’t think like us…
We need a new US monument/shrine where we can pilgrimage to and make an offering to the god of incompetence (which one is that again?) for smiling kindly upon us. It feels wrong to be relying so solely on the power of one god here without offering up any kind of gift in thanks.
like this one?
one word: jury nullification.
Two words
it’s actually 3 words.
I count four
Lights?
nah, “one” isn’t a word, it’s a number.
More, if you read between the lines.
Just knowing about this can disqualify you from being on a jury. And lying about knowing about it can get you a jail sentence.
Possession of weed can also get you a jail sentence. What’s your point?
The point is that you should probably stop smoking weed cause your brain has become mashed potatoes. If you are disqualified from the jury you can’t help anything and if you get arrested for lying they will change the entire jury, considering it completely compromised.
The real point is, stop talking about it. Choose instead to talk about how innocent you think the man is so that you don’t risk tainting potential jurors who might be sympathetic to your point of view.
I’m not a lawyer, this is not legal advice.
you should probably stop smoking weed cause your brain has become mashed potatoes.
That’s the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard. You really bought into that fried egg propaganda commercial, didn’t you?
No, I was also just making a joke because what you commented was idiotic.
However, I’ve smoked weed and lived around people who smoke weed. So I’m quite familiar with the effects and you should probably cut down.
I have only has second hand contact to weed. There’s nothing for me to cut down on.
I don’t think even that is necessary. The prosecution has been so flimsy that a simple acquittal will do.
This really seems like a scenario where that’s the ideal result. Even assuming he were guilty and the prosecution were able to prove it, he should not be convicted based on the extenuating circumstances of exploitative healthcare costing needless harm and death to millions
or summary judgement.
Aren’t those only for civil trials?
If I were on the Jury hes innocent. My grandma died from a bad premium.
I doubt the defense would go that route but I’m really curious how it would turn out. Like you’re allowed to use deadly force to save a life, and it could be reasonably argued that hundreds, maybe thousands of lives were saved in the aftermath of the shooting.
Realistically there’s no way that can be allowed to be a legal precident, but it would be funny to try.
Jury nullification doesn’t require a reason and isn’t usually cited as precedent.
I meant specifically a not guilty verdict on the grounds of defense. That would be wild. Obviously nullification or some technicality of law is going to be the best bet.
My grandfather was about to be kicked out of his nursing home by united. Then the shooting happened amd they “noticed” that his care was actually still covered.
So, you really think that a new CEO will act any differently? No lives were saved. The problem is the system. Not an individual CEO.
In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, insurance companies knee jerk approved a shitload of claims they would have normally denied. Even if that’s been “fixed,” the positive effect happened and was not negligible.
Is it just me, or do all the new news pics of Luigi look less… Pro-Luigi?
Honestly the death penalty is cruel. The government should not be executing people.
Mostly he’ll avoid the death penalty because he didn’t do it. Trump’s comments just make it a bit easier.
Great work Trump! … eww… that felt weird.
Where are all the “jury nullification” comments?
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The judge ordered the DOJ prosecutors to file a response by Oct. 3 that included “a sworn declaration from a person of suitable authority…that explains to the Court how these violations occurred, despite the Court’s April 25 Order, and what steps are being taken to ensure that no future violations occur.”
The order further required the prosecutors “to advise the Deputy Attorney General, for dissemination within the Department as appropriate, that future violations may result in sanctions, which could include personal financial penalties, contempt of court findings, or relief specific to the prosecution of this matter,” and to include “confirmation that this message has been conveyed to the Deputy Attorney General” in the sworn declaration due Oct. 3.
Garnett concluded by stating that she “will consider” the statements by DOJ employees cited in the defense letter as part of the defense’s motion to strike the death penalty, spelling out a potentially very real consequence for a Trump administration that has aggressively agitated for severe consequences for Thompson’s murder.
As a member of a jury, you absolutely have the right to refuse to indict. Just make sure you don’t mention jury nullification during the jury selection process. Judges and prosecutors hate that.
How many times can he be retried for the same crime if the Jury does that? As I fully expect Trump to demand the DOJ keep doing it as many times as they can
I mention it every time I’m in the jury selection process to ensure I never have to do jury duty
Trump’s first extrajudicial killing coming?
Who am I kidding, it’s not the first lol
Wouldn’t even be the first this week
