• VonCesaw@lemmy.world
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        If one side says that I should be imprisoned or dead for existing, and the other says I should live not in prison or not dead, I choose life

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          Yes, but also not every issue is that.

          Granted, I think center vs left is where meaningful policy conversation is happening… left vs right or center vs right is normally just painful

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            Center will gladly consolidate power with right if it conforms with their interests, they more frequently will make coalition with the right before they ever even communicate with the left Center has and will gladly overlook slavery if it conforms with their interests Center has always been complicit with overlooking genocide if they ‘don’t have skin in the game’ Center is LITERALLY THE REASON why Hitler was elected, the Weimar Republic was vaguely modern center and STILL VOTED HIM IN

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              Super important insight. Compromising on something that’s insane with 1/2 insane is not a choice at all, really, and is just plain unacceptable still.

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              When I wrote that I was internally mapping center to mainstream Democrats.

              I think you’re putting that more at like Joe Manchin.

              Still… in either case I think you’re out of your mind if you think anyone, except for the very furthest right white nationals, is willing to overlook slavery itself in 2023.

              The comparison of “Center” as an abstract thing you’re tying to Hitler honestly comes off as unhinged.

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                Democrats are socially center-left and economically center-right If there is a conflict with a social topic and an economic one, they will USUALLY FAVOR the economic one

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            I dunno if you have payed attention to politics recently but “we need to exterminate the trans agenda and the people who spread it” ain’t exactly anyone misconstruing what those people have been saying

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                I’m not sure you know this, but housing is a NEED, and making it a tradable commodity that is affected by market trends tends to harm more people than it serves

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                  You’re right, I guess we should also murder shop owners, pharmacy owners, clothing production owners, prostitutes, even councils who charge for toilet usage, self-help gurus, artists… All people who provide needs that are affected by market trends.

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                    You will not die without most those things, and the things you would are either currently being hoarded and killing people (shop owners destroying edible food to increase margins, pharmaceutical companies gouging for AIDS medication, insulin, etc), or cannot effectively hoarded (bathrooms, scam artistry, regular art).

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                Loud liberals on TikTok are not elected officials

                There are 496 bills that are introduced to state legislatures all the way to passed in the united states, spanning every state

                Loud liberals are saying illogical, irrational things loudly on a social media app

                13 states have laws that specify trans people being murdered is not a crime if the murderer thought they were cis

                People not in power in any part of the 3 branches of government said something mean

                In a majority of states, trans individuals can be removed from/denied employment, housing, state assistance, medical care, or virtually anything involving a contract

                Just because some people were mean in your direction does not mean that they have any meaningful power, and the people being handwaved off that actually have political power are actually doing the things that people are saying they’re doing

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                    Democrats suck, and they have always sucked, its a given. Not new, not controversial. Conservatives, especially the non-Trumpers, have absolutely no qualms with allying themselves WITH Trump because it’s an ideology founded on greediness and spite. Conservatives will ALWAYS fall in line with even their political disagreements if it means they get to commit violence on those they dislike, strengthen hierarchies, or try to enact their weird palingenesis

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      People behave in normal distributions. By definition vast majority of people are in the centre. The extremists (outliers) scream the loudest and warp an observer’s perception but the actual population is still a normal distribution.

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        This was before my political consciousness, but I feel like 1992 has an argument, but maybe that was just because of Perot…