• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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        I was going to say there’s no rules against saying “Elon Musk should be killed” here on Lemmy, but then I saw we’re on Lemmy.world, and I think they’re trying to be the new Reddit.

        (For any mods, this is not a call for violence, simply stating a thing that isn’t allowed. Please read it again if you think I made a call to violence.)

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          That’s weird since worldnews@lemmy.world became all about the destruction of Israel.

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    This is a perfect example of why we have to confiscate the bulk of the fortunes of Sociopathic Oligarchs.

    We have this guy operating his own foreign policy in a very sensitive war with nuclear weapons in the mix. The rest of the world shouldn’t have to be at the mercy of his arrogance and hubris, waiting for him to get bored with this game, and move onto the next one, hopefully before he blows up the planet.

    He has been proven to be massive national and global security threat, who will only become more dangerous as he hoards more money. Just strip his citizenship, confiscate his money and his companies, and deport him to South Africa. Then use his example as a threat to other Sociopathic Oligarchs.

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    Oh, I remember hearing about this in 2022. There was a ton of speculation about this. I’m glad it’s been confirmed.

    Hoping one day the MuskRat finds himself behind bars.

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      When I pointed out the first time this happened, I was pummeled in the comments by people saying that he just doesn’t want to be complicit in anything. Okay, but then why did he give Ukraine a bunch of Starlink receivers to begin with? And now this is the second or third time he’s fucked the Ukrainians by turning off the service as they’re taking back their land.

      He a fucking clown. He wants his service used, but he doesn’t want any consequences. He just wants to drag the war out and add “Powered by Starlink”. He’s given himself some control over the conflict, while enriching himself for as long as it continues.

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        Yeah, I wasn’t really sure of his reasoning here, but I don’t think it was very good to begin with.

        Unfortunately, we already know that he has way too much power for a private citizen.

        I think in 2022, he still had some fans, he hadn’t quite ruined his image all the way yet, even though most of us could see the writing on the wall. It sucks you got jumped for that, though.

        I’m in the “We should Nationalize Starlink without giving him a dime” camp as recompense for this crime.

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        He likely wants to blackmail Ukraine with it. I now have some guess why the anti-anti-corruption bill was made…

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        why did he give Ukraine a bunch of Starlink receivers

        Because those receivers were “free” for the Ukrainians but someone else paid millions for that

        Imagine paying $500/month for each “free” receiver because “military applications needs maximum quality” but when the vatnik CEO gets a call from its owner "oh no today it glitched!”

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    Huh, I didn’t have ‘war criminal’ on my list of Shitty Things Musk Is. Let’s just add that right below ‘Proud Nazi’

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    Normally, I would have advocated for the nationalization of Starlink and SpaceX as a matter of national and global security, but it’s not like the current American regime would do any better. I’m not going to be counting on them to investigate, let alone prosecute the affairs of this Russian junkie-stooge either.

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      Regardless of who would do better, the entirety of SpaceX and Starlink were paid for using American taxpayer’s money and government contracts. We already paid for it, we should own it.

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        Ohh, just wait till they privatize weather, mail, prison. hospitals…

        It’s gonna be too expensive to live on this planet for YOU.

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          Two of those are literally already privatised in America, and one more took some significant steps in that direction earlier this year.

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            one more took some significant steps in that direction earlier this year.

            One? Last I checked, both weather and mail are both on their way to privatization.

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              Damn, mail too? That didn’t make international headlines the way shutting down the weather service did.

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            As rural hospitals shut down (due to lack of federal funding) they are being BOUGHT up by private corporations and LEASED back to the federal government (federal funding).

            It’s a LOT more money and it’s NOT going to the hospital.

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            Most prisons in the US are actually not privatized, although this is a bit of technicality as government-run prisons tend to have privatized a lot of their functions, like “catering” (lol) and guards etc.

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      Honestly, someone hurry up and launch an alternative! Chinese are setting up one but I wouldn’t trust them either.

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      Alternatives would be great! My only concern is the number of satellites that have to be continually launched while older satellites are burned up after just five years. That’s thousands of satellites per service provider having to be continually replaced. Seems wasteful, but maybe I’m thinking the resource usage is greater than it really is in the grand scheme of things.

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        That five year figure is the time it takes to deorbit if the satellite goes dead, not the lifespan, from my understanding.

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          I’m not entirely sure of the exact legalities but I have some experience working cube-sats and have some insights on this. Since Low Earth Orbit is getting kinda crowded you now have to ensure that your satellite deorbits within 5 years of deployment. So that 5 year figure does limit the satellites lifespan. Quite significantly sometimes because you have to ensure that even if the satellite is dead on arrival it deorbits within those five years.

          I bet all of these restrictions can be alleviated to some extent if you’re a super rich dickhead but that’s how it is for us.

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            I know that the Starlink birds deploy at a relatively low altitude, then climb to service height under their own power, so they deorbit quite fast if they’re DOA.

            My impression was the five year figure is without the satellite boosting it’s orbit, but I could be wrong.

            Do yours have their own engine?

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        Well if Europe doesn’t do this, US or China will regardless and they won’t care about leaving junk in the space. So it’s a matter of who will profit off that. And also, the EU is doing a lot for the environment already. Maybe it’s time for other countries like India to stop throwing trash directly into rivers now? We live on the same planet. Even if EU achieves the zero-emission state, it only accounts for 5% of the population in the world, so it won’t change that much on a global scale if other countries continue refusing to cooperate

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    This was already known back then, but it is good to bring it to the front again.

    I do kind of wonder if this is a “revenge” article against Musk for him firing up the epstein “debate” on his twitter posting spree.

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      The Kherson episode is distinct from an earlier report of an incident that purportedly occurred that same September, involving Crimea just to the south, and raised concerns about Musk’s ability to influence the conflict in Ukraine.

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    He sees the Russian oligarchs, basically medieval duchies where they’re a law unto themselves (unless they piss off papa Putin, then it’s out the window) and thinks that’s a pretty neat deal.

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    starlink has over 150 ground locations (ground satelites that ping service to ones in space, and then down to customer recievers) these locations are easily found by a unofficial map.

    their main HQ is in hawthorne, california, a short drive from the LA airport. at 1 rocket road.

    do with that information as you will, the ground locations are mostly located all over the US.