• 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    edit-2
    5 days ago

    It is harder to do this with the newer metal tooth variety. The tooth digs into the tail where you need to tighten, avoid back pressure, and really need a knife to get under the tooth reliably.

    • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      5 days ago

      Ah crap, thanks for the info! I think I’ll swap out the images since the slipping out one might be more relevant then.

        • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netOP
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          19
          ·
          5 days ago

          Well I’ll be damned!

          Though someone in the comments of that video mentioned that the dual cuff zip tie (which I didn’t know about until now) are much harder to use that method on, and now I’m guessing the other methods I posted may not be as effective against those either. I’m unsure of how common the dual type have been at protests.

          • jordanlund@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            5 days ago

            Yeah, having 2 locks makes it so you can’t apply the pressure to a single failure point.

            What makes this technique work is making sure it’s tight AND having the lock centrally located so all the pressure bears down on it.

            With 2 locks offset like that? Probably wouldn’t work. Also probably why they designed it that way.

          • nimble
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            5 days ago

            Interesting. I wonder if you could slam your wrists down on your thigh with each wrist on either side. You’d basically be trying to rip the cords out from the end. Couldn’t find any videos defeating these but found one sales video showing 400lbs tensile strength. so you wouldn’t be able to just pull them apart without trying to manipulate the locking mechanism as a point of failure.

  • golden_zealot@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    5 days ago

    Depending on the gauge and your position, sometimes it is possible to lift your hands above your head, throw your arms down as hard as you can, and drive your knee up and into them at the same time to break them.