Last week, top ICE officials ordered officers to increase arrests and to get “creative” in their methods, including trying to nab people the officers happen to encounter in what are known as “collateral arrests.” The orders come in the wake of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem and White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller setting a quota of 3,000 immigration arrests per day, along with a sharp rise in protests against the crackdown.

In Westbury, the HSI agents didn’t respond to the gathered crowd. After a few minutes, the agents drove away. A commotion erupted down the road, off-camera, and onlookers began rushing toward the corner.

One of the Nissans, carrying two of the HSI agents, had crashed into a black pickup truck that happened to be passing through the intersection. Three eyewitnesses told The Intercept that the agents’ car had sped away. Two of the witnesses believe the Nissan blew a stop sign, causing the crash. (Nassau County police referred questions about the accident to ICE, which did not respond to an inquiry.)

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    If ICE is meeting resistance even in a place like Westbury, then at least something is going right.

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    I watched most of the video clip. The agents all look kinda perplexed. As if they can’t understand that nearly any species alive will go nuts when you go for their offspring.

    Guys, I think ICE agents are aliens.

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      Well, they’re supposed to snatch innocent people, kids, break apart families, so I think it’s granted they must be some kind of sadistic psychopaths.

      After that, the way they try to get around the illegality of what they’re doing suggests they’re also very, very, very dumb.

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        Exactly. Joining ice is the easiest way to show the world you’re antisocial, racist and have zero emotional intelligence. These people wouldn’t know empathy if it slapped someone else across the face

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          These people wouldn’t know empathy if it slapped someone else across the face

          Brilliantly put

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      I think it’s a case of psychopathy and the fact that some of these people TRULY don’t see black and brown people as people. The dehumanization is truly complete to the point that they really don’t understand that they’re PEOPLE, with thoughts and feelings.

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        Psychopaths understand people a lot better than these ice agents. These are garden variety sociopaths at best

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      I didn’t see a video on the archived site, didn’t want to subscribe with an email to see the page. Does the video cover their acts and the following crash? Weighing my interests, maybe I’ll find it elsewhere

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        Not the crash itself. But the direct aftermath. They see something happened down the street and start going there.

        As for the agents fuckery, they get yelled at on the street outside the school and look like shocked deer at an approaching car.

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        The video is an embedded FB live video.

        Heres the link

        Edit: linking to the video on FB doesn’t seem to work. But there’s no validation, so you can sign up using any email. I was able to watch it after entering the email fuck@you.com

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    ICE really does seem like the new SS. As a European it’s scary as fuck to watch the world’s most powerful state turn fascist.

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      As an American, the scariest part is how little most seem to care about it. Well, that and the fascism.

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      Try being an American citizen with a history degree. I know where this leads, and I’m terrified.

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        I feel like my history teachers tried to warn us about this, but they couldn’t say it directly and most of us didn’t take the hint.

        “Does history repeat itself?”

        “Those who don’t learn from history are destined to repeat it.”

        What they’re really trying to get their students thinking is “do we learn from history?” And the answer is a big, fat, fuck no.

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          Actually, I have considered that, wanting to avoid being the same kind of victim of partisan propaganda as stupid Conservatives. This is especially important to me, as I have been an Unaffiliated Independent since first registering to vote in 1977. It important to me to not succumb to the propaganda of either side.

          My self-reflection has determined to my personal satisfaction that I am not shrill, I’m not an alarmist, and I’m not a commie. I have a history degree, 30 years of professional experience, and have closely watched the rise of extremist Conservatism since the mid-80s, so I am very comfortable offering my opinions with confidence. I don’t worry about acceptance from MAGA Nazi Traitors. I couldn’t care less about their treasonous, shallow, ignorant, violent, political opinions.

          My education, knowledge, and experience has led me to believe that we are facing a divide in America as bad as the Civil War, and very possibly worse. The MAGAs are clearly taking their strategies from the Nazi Germany Playbook, and want to murder vast swathes of Americans. To recognize and warn others about it is not shrill, alarmist, or “commie,” and it is not lost on me that you are attempting to shame me into silence.

          It won’t work. Indies like me aren’t afraid in the least of Cowardly Nazi Traitors like you. We know what you are up to, and we will stop you.

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      To see the Canadian government start pushing bills on immigration that are similar to those put in place to allow all this to happen in the US is terrifying as well. We voted in hopes of fending off this fascist takeover and yet here we are with Drumpfkins next door and our own “left” cooking the country.

      The citizens of the world are under fire everywhere from fascism and even Nazism. We all need to stand up and fight back no matter where we live.

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    So, Imma go back to my philosophy 101 argument structure days. Fill in the blank.

    Premise 1. Racists should never feel safe being racists. Premise 2. Nobody willingly becomes an ICE agent without being a racist. Conclusion: Therefore, … ?

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    Westbury: “in Latino-heavy New York suburbs.”

    Ummmmmmmm… Unless Westbury changed in the 6 months since I’ve been there, it’s a really wealthy area. Not that Latinos can’t be wealthy, but my dad lives there, I’m literally going there Sunday. I wouldn’t exactly describe it as Latino-heavy, unless you aim to describe the entirety of Long Island as Latino-heavy…

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        Indeed. Which honestly the characterization of Long Island as being “Latino-heavy” isn’t exactly wrong. Everywhere I’ve worked (almost all of my work history is blue collar) I’m side by side with a not insignificant number of them. I’m honestly glad I took my father’s advice and learned some Spanish in highschool, because it has been handy at work although admittedly I’ve forgotten most of it lol

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      There is one nice area in west bury with senior living apartments. Rest is pretty low income .

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    Sooo Federal officers get to flee scenes, guess insurance doesn’t matter anymore.

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    I’m thinking that if ICE et al keeps this up, pretty soon random people are gonna start taking sneaky potshots at them. Amongst many, many other things, these dipshits are actively making their own jobs wildly more dangerous.

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      That would bring the military into our communities even quicker. Seems like a very bad idea.

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          Sniping ICE agents would make things much worse much more quickly.

          Maybe the progression of violence is inevitable, but once you start killing pigs, it will all happen very quickly.

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              Look man, I am a protesting, pro-physical intervention, pro-whatever it takes leftist. All I’m saying is random people shooting at ICE is going to end protest and resistance, and begin the part where the government shoots and kills protestors and resistance on sight.

              If you think that’s the best plan, that’s fine. I do not. I think there is more that needs to happen before the shooting starts.

              I own many guns. I practice with them. I have thousands of rounds of ammunition. When the government starts shooting people, I will decide if I’m ready to die to protect my family and community.

              But I’m not gonna kill myself and dozens of others by foolishly “taking a pot shot” at these fucking nazis.

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            If you’re afraid of attacking their person, then attack their property.

            We can all work together to make sure ICE agents don’t get nice suburban houses that aren’t covered in eggs and toilet paper.

            We can all work together to make sure their tires don’t have air in them as often as possible.

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        Historical nitpick just because of history and not for any nefarious reason.

        You mention a rag stuffed into the bottle. This is inaccurate to what the Finnish, who invented the device, did.

        A rag stuffed into a bottle is easily snuffed out, and the user of the device risks spilling flammable liquid on themselves when throwing the device.

        The fins, historically, tied a rag around the neck of a bottle that was sealed. The rag was exposed to air and can burn steadily, and the sealed bottle makes handling much safer. When thrown, the bottle or jar will still break and spread the liquid, and the steadily burning rag will ignite them.

        Do with this knowledge what you will.

        And always remember that Hollywood has a legal interest in showing you non viable ways of making destructive devices. Always think about the most practical way to do something, regardless of how you’ve seen it in movies.

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      what might also work is balloons filled with paint, thrown against the windshield of their vehicles. does no permanent damages, but makes it difficult to leave the area hastily.

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    I wonder if ICE agents are paid a lot more than those people would be in other jobs having the same qualifications/experience etc, and that’s the reason why they stay on. Or some massive perks or something. Why isn’t there a mass exodus of ICE agents leaving? Or maybe there is and it’s not reported? There must be some attraction?

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      I’m pretty much convinced they recruited all these thugs from alt-right groups and disgraced ex-police in the last few months. They don’t have uniforms or badges. They wear face masks and refuse to identify themselves. They needed a bunch of guys that had no problem with being cruel and hateful and they were right there ready to step up.

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        They have to. Where else would so many new ones come from? So many who are so unaware of rights and laws?

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        yea these are most likely the same people who formed their own local militias and jerked off to fantasies of shooting protesters.

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        They probably just walk around downtown and recruit from whomever has a cut-off shirt and a swastika tattoo