Completely unrealistic and unwatchable. Suit needs to be tan.
World’s first white first black president.
Oh god, it’s real.
So it was 30 years ago. I feel like, even though things are far from perfect now, nowadays a comment like this would draw quite a few more critical looks than back then.
People in 1994 knew exactly how fucked this was.
Sure, but knowing how fucked something is and actually speaking out about it are two very different things.
It was also 30 years closer to Harriet Tubman, in a time when black civil rights were not even as sanded smooth as they appear now.
Bruh we’ve got a Nazi president
And he’s fucking everyone instead of just black people. We had a DEI program to rollback again. If someone calls me the n-word, I can post that on Tiktok and have a
5040% chance of getting them fired.Shit’s bad but shit’s almost always been bad for black people in America, so you mark the little peaks.
Why would you think that? I was around in 1994, and if anything, it got worse.
No, sorry. Go watch any sitcom from the nineties. There is a lot of stuff in there (racism, sexism, homophobia) that would cause a shitstorm these days.
Maybe you lived in a progressive bubble back then (good for you) but as someone born in the nineties who grew up in the early 00s, I have to say, ignorance was a lot more tolerated back then, even in the 00s.
So you’re looking at an era that you probably don’t remember actively being a part of, and you compare it to the world you do remember. I don’t think I was the one to live in a bubble*. Also, have you seen Musk do the Hitler salute on television? Nobody tried pulling shit like that in 1994.
*I lived, and still live, in a very rural area, which is not know for being progressive.
100%.
Look up who Alec McGuiness played in Lawrence of Arabia.
Or look at Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany’s. Or Elizabeth Taylor in Cleopatra. Or John Wayne in Gengis Khan.
Or Emma Stone in Aloha, or Max Minghella in The Social Network, or Tilda Swinton in Doctor Strange.
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It’s such an insane story that I wonder what the other side of it is. It’s easy to imagine the guy just having got out of a meeting ten minutes earlier with “if you don’t get Julia Roberts into a movie by the end of the week, I’ll see you never work in this town again!” ringing in his ears.
This is obviously a perfect role for Ryan Gosling
AI Morgan Freeman
Why AI? Wtf, you made me think he died. Don’t do this to me.
Sorry, I meant “motion capture Morgan Freeman”. Harriet Tubman would be CGI of course.
I think he is already scheduled to star in the MLK movie, so not sure he would have the time
Hollywood Executives can collectively only name at most seven actors at a given time. An entire nine-digit annual industry run by a bunch of coked-up goldfish.
All of these large industries are run by idiots
They’re run by the same average people who work for them. You don’t need to be an idiot to fuck up running something as large and complicated as a trans-national corporation. You don’t need to be a genius to coast in a position that already prints money.
We’re simply not that different from one another. The genius/idiot dichotomy is far more about variances in education, culture, and propagandized bigotry than finding actual differences in intellect.
Hmmm so you need woman of colour? Maybe Gal Gadot? /s
If Hollywood ever did a film about Gaza they would unironically use Gal Godot in the role of a Palestinian woman.
It also be “both sides have something to learn from each other!” Oscar bait a la Crash or Green Book.
Ughhhhhhh. Green Book was okay, I liked it, but BlackkKlansman was right there. I shouldn’t be surprised they picked the less punchy of the two, but I’m still annoyed.
The best part of BlackkKlansman was that I watched it with two literal billionaires who most assuredly voted for Trump 3 times. I got to feel their reaction to that ending montage. Thank you for the reminder.
tf is your life lol. That’s crazy. I really hope it made them at least somewhat more empathetic. I don’t think anyone is ever too far gone for change, but I also don’t have much hope that billionaires will change.
I was going to suggest that it would be done with lots of tearful emotion, but then I remembered that Gal can’t actually act, so maybe it would be more of a “after saying the words, turning and looking towards the horizon in an heroic pose” medium shot moving into a panorama showing little children in the background.
(With the right music to pull people’s emotional strings, obviously)
No doubt with lines like “They only hate Israel because of their religion” and “The IDF is protecting me, despite being Palestinian”
“Israel is saving Palestinians like me from the Hamas terrorist regime”
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The average Hollywood executive is really dumb, but they tend to be great talkers and networkers.
they tend to be great talkers and networkers
This is selling them a bit short. They’re also generally pretty good at raping aspiring actresses.
All of them?
Only the ones that got into their hands.
Am I the only one who doesn’t know who Harriet Tubman is?
Probably not, but she’s an important figure of the American history. The real question, though, is who will know about Harriet Tubman in a few years, once she gets erased from American history books.
At least people will be able to remember she looked like Julia Roberts
Elon Musk will build The Above Ground Railroad to save white South African immigrants from the tyranny of paying taxes.
The Above Ground Hyperloop
Relevant picture
Does the phrase “underground railroad” mean anything to you?
Not everyone is from North America. That is like me asking you, does “Dr. Kwame Nkrumah” mean anything to you?
Tbh, it should. American educations don’t touch Africa barring a dip into Egypt, which usually compresses the dynasties in a way that does nothing for a deeper understanding. Even as someone with a BA in history, that watched the course listing like a hawk for “history of the Sahel” or “history of the Mali empire” or some lovely 3000-4000 course - nothing.
I should have been taught who Nkrumah was. And Léopold Senghor, and Kenyatta…
Instead, I lean on The Fate of Africa by Martin Meredith. Which is a good book, but by a journalist, not a historian.
does “Dr. Kwame Nkrumah” mean anything to you?
C’mon, there are lots of NBA fans outside of the United States.
If only that question was a direct response to someone talking about an American historical figure by name.
…no?
Okay, Harriet Tubman, born into slavery in the early 1800s, escaped slavery, probably best known today for making 13 trips to the South and guiding 70 slaves on their escape to free states via a system of secret routes, sympathizers and safe houses referred to as The Underground Railroad. Tubman went on to serve as a spy for the Union army during the American civil war, and was a figure in the women’s suffrage movement, surviving into the 20th century.
So, the fact that she was a black woman is kind of important to Harriet Tubman’s lore, and casting Julia Roberts in the role is rather inappropriate.
The Underground Railroad had nothing to do with actual trains, but they used a lot of railroad related terminology as code speak. Trail guides were referred to as “conductors,” safe houses were “stations,” etc. Very little of it was actually underground; I’m sure a few slaves hid in root cellars or caves along the way, but there were no tunnels. Escapees were sometimes carried by boat or train but most traveled on foot and/or by wagon. There’s a sort of folklore image of slaves traveling at night under the cover of darkness, navigating by the North Star. Allegedly, the song “Follow The Drinkin’ Gourd” was a slave song that contained coded instructions for navigating along the Underground Railroad by landmarks along the trail and by using Merak and Dubhe in Ursa Major to identify Polaris…I’m pretty sure this is 20th century embellishment to the story but it’s a prominent visual, kind of like Johnny Appleseed’s pot hat.
This bit of history is taught so widely in American schools that the term “underground railroad” has just become our word for a secret, grassroots network of routes, safe houses and guides for transporting refugees out of danger.
Here you go. She was a pretty amazing person. If you’re from the US and didn’t learn about her in school, your school failed you.
Just adding on to others, they made her a leader you can play as in Civ 7. (This is just a fun fact, obviously she’s important outside of being in a video game.) https://civilization.fandom.com/wiki/Harriet_Tubman_(Civ7)
Like the Eurostar
We call it the subway or the metro nowadays.
TL;DR, she was an insanely brave black woman who helped a metric fuck ton of slaves escape the south.
She’s the original free runner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1dhATC-ekQ
Never be afraid to ask a question to rectify a lack of knowledge.
“Hollywood is crazy. The Last Samurai, staring Tom Cruise…?!”
Halle Berry though… 🤔
Martin Lawrence would rock it in “Big Tubman’s House”
I’m going to hell for this upvote.
Would have been a better role than catwoman
I’m a top exec for a very big movie company and I hear you on this. No more Julia Roberts. Got it. Roberts out, Catwoman in. …
Someone get me Michelle Pfeiffer on the phone. I have a great idea, Catwoman as Harry Tubmen.
That’s an Oscar winner, right there.
Queue Dave Chappelle and his sketch ‘Negrodamas’
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I predict a movie called The Last Black Man on Earth, starring Tom Hanks
Thanks for sharing! Had no idea NASSA existed 🫡
citation needed
Did they not publish their casual conversation for peer review???
The article led me down a rabbit hole leading to an article about the ghost in the shell movie adaptation promo meme generator being used to criticise the whitewashing in the movie adaptation
Fuck whitewashing
Tbh - if you do any academic study of history, that’s what it all starts to look like.
I tried to watch Spartacus because Kubrick and… I couldn’t. Those fucking hairdos. The depiction of Marcus Aurelius in Gladiator upset me - like no, the man was not a proto Thomas Jefferson (and even the IRL Jefferson made his money on child slavery and raped children.) Wuxia is so much fun but there’s never going to be a period accurate Three Kingdoms (which is a 14th century novel anyway)
Medieval history especially…. That’s pages and pages, and I’m not even really that much of a medievalist.
I do historical reenactment, so I have a hobby that involves researching the age of a certain embroidery stitch, for example.
I’ve learned to just switch off that part of my brain for games and movies, or I’d cry a lot more. I just project them to an alternate reality where they totally had nylon in 1200.
Pre medieval knitting bothers me immensely. Stockinette is too recognizable and too taken for granted to not be driving me crazy constantly.
I’ve got this rough theory that we can get decently historic pieces from around 50 AD (but only in central italy, nowhere else), around 1200, 1800 and then from 1900 to now. Everything else is even more of crapshoot.
Anything between Commodus and Charlemange is especially cursed
Medieval history especially
At least we have Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
pretty much any ‘historical’ movies are completely unwatchable to me
Reminds me of the bit at the end of Deadpool when he says they were considering Keira Kightly for Cable because she has range.
