• silverlose@lemm.ee
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    lol the dems have always supported genocide?? Can you cite a single source for that bold af claim?

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        Okay, I’m not going to claim that US democrats are perfect but saying that they openly support genocide is extremely hyperbolic and undermines your argument.

        The US has done a LOT of terrible things and both parties had a hand in it. I wouldn’t say either of them support genocide.

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          The democratic party under Biden almost uniformly supported to the tune of billions of dollars in weapons, the ethnic cleansing, of Gaza. This is with knowledge of Israel using systemic sexual violence, collective punishment, school and hospital bombings, killing journalists and humanitarian aid workers, utilizing medical aid outfits as disguises for secret operations, and targeting civilian infrastructure.

          It is not at all hyperbolic to state the plain fact they openly support genocide, as openly supporting the actions in Gaza is openly supporting a genocide.

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            I think you can make a strong case that the US foreign policy in this region is garbage, and I agree with you, they’ve done terrible things.

            But I still don’t think that they would openly support genocide. If they had, I think you would’ve been able to find a source for that.

            Just so you don’t get the wrong idea here: I agree with what you’re saying but I disagree with the language you’re using. I think it undermines your point.

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              If you openly support, both verbally and functionally, an on-going genocide, you openly support genocide.

              Just because they didn’t say “We want to genocide the Palestinians.” at a press meeting, doesn’t mean that they don’t openly support the genocide they were funding, blocking criticism for, and suppressing protest of.

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                Eh, I think id call it covert or something like that. Saying “openly” implies they like/enjoy genocide or something.

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                  I guess at a point we have to ask what is the purpose of drawing that line. If China says it’s begrudgingly purging the Uyghurs due to their cultural beliefs and the land they ingenious to, are they not openly supporting genocide? Does it matter if they say they like it in press briefings when the only actions they take is to further violence and propagate the ongoing genocide?

                  Why is the hypothetical cruelty in their soul the deciding factor, when they are opening doing the work that supports a genocide?

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                    It’s worth something that they at least try to lie about it, no? Like we’re not really at “openly” yet.

                    I’m just making a point about the language used to try to help you be more convincing. When you say stuff like the dems openly support genocide, I imagine a clip of Biden gleefully cheering on the deaths of innocents.

                    I get it’s semantics, and you’re correct in a way it is “openly” supporting that, but it just sounds a bit hyperbolic to me.

                    Don’t forget, we ultimately agree.