Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Thank God they’re not just letting that shit slip
What kind of first-world county would let it slip?
Glances nervously in US
We don’t merely let it slip by nowadays. We lube up the grifting slide to make it faster.
US? first-world? What? No! It really isn’t. Like health care is worse than some “third-world” countries…
Bankruptcy! Woo!
Hope so. They’ve been trying to undermine the Swedish job market here, and even fucking stalked their employees. Horrible company.
Wait what? Can we give more details? What do you mean by stalked?
Idk about Sweden, but in Germany middle management visited sick employees at their homes to check whether they were really sick.
https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/tesla-hausbesuche-krankschreibungen-100.html
Holy fuck. I’m sorry, if I take a sick day I take a sick day - you might see me out shopping for groceries to survive the day, but I am by no means well.
Uhm excuse me. If you can walk and carry groceries, clearly you are well 👏 enough 👏 to work 👏. I’m waiting on those TPS* reports tetris11!
Them probably.
I miss the days when the employees collectively knew where their bosses lived and how to tie fuel-soaked rags to sticks
Suomessa, tiedämme muutamia asioita Molotovin cocktaileista. ;)
We call them “TPS reports” buddy. slaps back
Dang I was close-ish. Fixed
I don’t know if it was all the sick workers, but a lot of those workers hadn’t been to work all year (around September at the time).
Apparently it’s not abnormal for people to abuse the system there and do things like this.
There was some stuff about patterns of a subset of workers taking Fridays off sick as well.
So it doesn’t actually seem as outright bad if they were investigating abuse. However, if it was just a random person being sick, that would be very bad.
Edit: This is a terrible source I’m sure, but just an example that its a prevalent problem and there’s even a business up about finding out if people are cheating the system - https://www.malaymail.com/news/money/2024/12/30/germanys-sick-leave-detectives-are-on-the-case-as-absenteeism-hits-records-and-company-pocketbooks/161436
the thing is: the employer has absolutely 0 say on if a person is sick or not. If a doctor says a person can’t work: that’s it. The company 0 in the matter.
In fact, the company isn’t even allowed to ask why a person is sick. An official note from the doctor is all that matters
In Germany it’s legal for an employer to visit an employee. The employee is under no obligation to open the door, however.
As this article covers, it doesn’t really make sense to visit an employee, as the issue might not be visually apparent.
Well clearly there’s something that’s allowed to be done as that article is about a guy that has a business determining if its legit or not?
But that’s an investigator, not the employer, so maybe that makes a difference?
I’m sure other EU countries have variations on this but in the UK this has already been legally decided. If somebody is abusing the sickness system you document it, you confirm it via the terrible Branford system, and then you hold them in for a meeting.
You don’t randomly turn up at their house, there is absolutely no justification for that and it is a stalking crime for them to do that.
I would love to know how much is spent trying to catch people trying to game the system, compared to lost compensation because of sick leave.
Past a point, they must surely be spending more hiring this whole team of detectives than they would be just letting the workers take Friday off.
Yes, that reminds me of when Florida(?) started requiring drug testing for welfare recipients and ended up spending more on the tests than whatever they saved uncovering fraud.
That would be interesting ya. I don’t think there would be any way to recoup the cost for the person calling is sick on Friday semi frequently or similar things, but for the people who are gaming the system and didn’t work for a year, if they found a way to abuse it, it’d probably make sense if you truly were that suspicious.
Here’s an article. It’s in Swedish.
Here’s a video. It’s also in Swedish.
😏
Jail time would be even better.
Maybe keep your shitty politics out of your shitty product next time, and then you won’t face political consequences.
In this case it looks like they commited fraud, so it’s not even just political.
That’s not even what happened. I work in the auto industry, and they very blatantly abused the rebate program with what are almost certainly fake vouchers.
Some individual dealerships reported thousands of sales in a single day, and that would be a miracle even at the best of times for a well established dealer. There’s no way Tesla is declining around the world and still selling miraculous numbers of vehicles.
Yeah I was really confused by the story, surely they actually have to provide some kind of evidence. Surely the Canadian government didn’t just run it based on honesty. Wouldn’t they have to provide the VIN or something.
But the very least I would have assumed that they had to list the name of the person they sold the car to.
Right, you’d think they would provide vin numbers, which the government would then check against vehicle registrations with whatever DMV equivalent.
I’m open to being wrong, but this certainly doesn’t pass a smell test. We’ll see what happens.
I wonder if there is the possibility of the shareholders suing Elon because what he’s doing is so demonstrably damaging the company. He could totally have done this and not had the big PR problem by just not doing random stuff without running it past anyone. But nooo.
People weren’t happy about him essentially buying a governmental position but what they really objected to is all the subsequent things he did.
This is one way to deal with conflict of interests not being addressed. Too badly it can’t work for everything else. Like I can’t “boycott” space travel.
Well I ain’t doing any.
Neither is their CEO.
Trump calling this “Domestic Terrorism” and threatening Tariffs in response in 3… 2…
Hopefully, this amounts to a fraud investigation and shareholders dump their stocks and cause Musk to fall below the margin call and then he liquidates and Tesla goes to rock bottom.
Doesn’t he only own like 13% of the stock in Tesla? His wealth is barely affected by Tesla going bankrupt
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That’s true, everything helps I guess. But tanking Tesla isn’t the silver bullet that many seem to think it is.
Yeah, we don’t need a silver bullet.
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Yeah I’m just shilling over here pointing out facts that it takes more than bankrupting Tesla to financially hurt that psycho…
Having been first listed on the Forbes Billionaires List in 2012,[4] around 75% of Musk’s wealth was derived from Tesla stock in November 2020.
Key thing here is it’s in 2020… it isn’t anymore since the whole xitter debacle which forced him to sell most of his stocks in it.
Tanking Tesla now unfortunately doesn’t have even close to the same impact as it would have if it happened 5 years ago.
Option 1: Tesla fraudulently filed rebates
Option 2: Tesla filed a backlog of rebates when they realized they had to
Both are possible, but everyone is jumping to conclusion that it’s option 1, while option 2 is the easier answer.
Also the government said they’re going to let all the other rebates that this pushed out at the last minute get the rebate regardless of if these were legit or not.
Option 2 should be easy to prove, so why didn’t they do that already, like literally the same day they were accused of it? Then their funds wouldn’t have been frozen.
Especially considering this was months ago
I imagine they probably don’t want to release the information that would prove it if they could, and if they did it’d be redacted enough that no one would believe it anyway. It also costs money to fight endless things like this.
Ultimately, if the government comes back and says its legit, then people will believe it. If it’s fraud, there should be punishment.
That whole 1.5 billion accounting fraud story last week, I don’t think Tesla said anything official about it or done anything at least to specifically disprove it, but the FT has now retracted the story saying they made a mistake.
They probably had their families threatened. That’s what fascist regimes do.
The story explains what their mistake was that others pointed out to them.
Maybe they shouldn’t have kept a backlog then? That certainly sounds like a ‘them’ problem though, doesn’t it?
Doesn’t strike me as very efficient either
I don’t think I’d ever call behemoth corporations efficient.
woosh
Corpos are generally inefficient.
Now freeze the editor’s paycheck - no editor worth that much should be misspelling ‘suspicious’ in a headline.
Canadians taking on the Nazis they should send canned food to tesla next.
What’s going on in Quebec?
The federal government is following the same strategy as some provinces. British Columbia has recently banned Tesla products from its EV charger rebate. Nova Scotia just announced that it has excluded Tesla from its $2,000 rebate at the purchase of a new EV.
Quebec just relaunched its own EV incentive program today. It will come into effect next week, and so far, Tesla’s Model 3 and Model Y vehicles are still included in the list of eligible vehicles.
Quebec always marches to a different drummer. Nevertheless, I expect they will be dropping the Tesla vehicles from their list sooner or later. They may just not want to make any more adjustments so close to a launch.
after what US has done tariff wise I’m surprised that they haven’t blocked all US companies from it.
