Summary
Sam Beard, organizer of Luigi Mangione’s legal defense fund, claims the dramatic “perp walk” resembling Hannibal Lecter’s treatment backfired on New York authorities, boosting donations to over $743,000.
Mangione, charged with murder and terrorism for allegedly killing UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, received heightened security during extradition, drawing public sympathy.
Critics argue the campaign glorifies violence, while supporters emphasize fair trial rights.
Mangione, who pleaded not guilty, faces the death penalty if convicted.
critics as in boomers, and politicians.
Given the success He should start his Presidental run right now. ( I want at least to see this movie )
A president once said “ I could shoot someone on fifth Ave. and not lose any votes”
turns out, it’s a pretty good campaign move.
I could shoot someone on fifth Ave. and not lose any votes
well, he hasn’t shot anyone, but he is responsible for many many many deaths.
Eugene V. Debs moment
“It’s horrible when anybody has their life cut short by another person, especially when it could have been prevented,” Beard says on Luigi. “But the same logic has to apply both ways, right?
“Preventing people from getting the healthcare that they need – that you and your company have access to and could provide them, but don’t do so because it would threaten your business model – that’s an act of violence, too,” Beard says.
Hello based department, we got a candidate here for you.
“Luigi” in reference to the name of his podcast not the person Luigi Mangione
Not just the healthcare they need, but also healthcare that they pay for.
No, I pretty much supported him the moment it was clear that the CEO toppled over from a pre-existing condition called “being vulnerable to lead projectiles.”
Only 9mm too, what a nerd. Back in my day, we were expected to have built up an immunity to 9mm by high school.
honestly, coddling the human body about gun shots is making us weak as a people. we’ll never get over this pandemic of gun violence if we keep natural compensatory measures from kicking in.
According to RFK the best way to get immunity is for everyone to cop a 9mm lead projectile, instead of using any form of preventative measure.
I hear nowadays if you can’t tank a 5.56 to the chest by 8th grade they hold you back a year.
His treatment caused about . 02% of the support for him.
United Heaths treatment of the rest of us caused the rest.
I support him even if he’s innocent.
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it’s a quote from… i forget which old panther leader.
I’m saying I think what he’s accused of is cool as fuck, and is more than enough for my full endorsement, but he’s still cool enough to get my vote even if he didn’t do it.
and also that this is not an endorsement of the state’s position that he is legally responsible, and in fact I saw him several time zones away at the time of the alleged incident, which can we even prove this brian guy is dead, or ever existed?
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right? CRISIS ACTORS! SHOW ME THE LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE!
Well, also the fact that he looks literally nothing like the dude from the security camera stills, the police have been bungling every single step of the evidence process since before they “caught” Mangione, annnd finally all the work theyve done to preprejudice the public into thinking he did it by organizing documentaries demonizing Mangione while being too busy to provide the details of their “evidence” to Mangione’s legal council (which they are legally obligated to do!)
Well, also the fact that he looks literally nothing like the dude from the security camera stills
I don’t know where this keeps coming from. I’ve got prosopagnosia, and even i can see they look the same.
It’s the most insane cope I’ve ever seen and I don’t get it either. It’s an absolutely stupid theory for multiple reasons, mainly because all the “real” killer has to do is pop another CEO and suddenly the feds look very fucking stupid. Second, if Luigi really isn’t the guy, it is trivial to prove he wasn’t there. The shooter was tracked basically from the moment he set foot in new York, surely there would be some footage of Luigi literally anywhere else during that time.
They’ll call the actual shooter a copycat.
Pretty sure it’s a joke/reminder about jury nullification. “Luigi Mangione obviously isn’t guilty – the guy they got on camera looks nothing like him.”
Poes law I guess. I’ve seen too many people legit conspiracy posting that Luigi is a scapegoat.
What because he was walking around with a get charged with murder starter kit and a signed confession thanking the feds for their service?
Nah seems legit.
I’m not saying his arrest was clean, I’m saying it was definitely him and not someone else. Maybe they used illegal means to find him or whatever, but literally just finding a random guy to charge is braindead level thinking for reasons already mentioned.
He was arrested in Pennsylvania, what if was never in New York that night?
Would be trivial to prove with security footage.
Exactly, if he allegedly murdered the CEO of an organization that doesn’t profit from the death and destruction of it’s customers then the public reaction would be completely different regardless of any perp walk PR stunt.
For profit insurance glorifies violence, not resisting it
Yes exactly. Accused of killing CEO of children’s charity known for amazing work with kids? Condemnation. Accused of killing CEO of organisation known as having caused a lot of suffering? Applause. I totally disagree with him being praised for possibly murdering someone, but I totally understand why people are doing it.
Luigi appears to have given his life in the service of the innocent. He shot an evil man who killed thousands of innocent people, but whose compatriots had bought the law to make their killings legal.
And his writings? Nothing but compassion, benevolence, and an unshakable sense of justice.
Luigi has all the hallmarks of a classical saint. He’s literally a martyr for the innocent. He gave his life to help people he will never meet.
As far as I am concerned, the man is literally a saint. Saint Luigi of Baltimore. And if they execute him, they will multiply his power a thousand fold.
As far as I am concerned, the man is literally a saint. Saint Luigi of Baltimore. And if they execute him, they will multiply his power a thousand fold.
I understand the sentiment, but I’ll be shocked and not unpleasantly surprised if I travel to the future and find Luigism is the predominant religion and political system.
The optics the recently indicted (and later hastily pardoned) mayor being one of the guys perp walking the sympathetic suspect probably didn’t help them either.
he was currying favors for a pardon from trump.
Right? Most corrupt fuckin cop, there strictly for his own photo op of course, escorting a political-divide-spanning legitimate American folk hero. Seems like a pretty predictable response to me.
What they don’t seem to realize is that Mangione himself isn’t all that important. Whether they kill him or successfully vilify him, in a few years people won’t be thinking about the man himself all that much. Their continued hardship will be what they think about, and as long as it’s the capital class’s fault, the anger will keep growing.
This isn’t about a man anymore. It’s about an idea.
I hope the jury nullifies the charges, but he’s become a symbol for the common people of America because he acted on the fury and frustration that hundreds of millions of us feel. You can’t really kill an idea once it gains hold in the minds of that much of the populace.
It would be really funny if the jury nullifies (like so hard it’s an acquittal, not just hung so they have to do another trial), and then he went and shot another scumbag CEO.
I would nullify again
Nah, if he somehow got his life back we shouldn’t be continuing to look at him to save us. He already did his part.
Obviously he’s innocent and being framed and therefore should be found innocent, but if he gets out he’s going to be watched like a hawk. He’ll have a whole team dedicated to his surveillance. Again, super innocent, didn’t do it.
Allegedly
This reminds me of V for Vendetta and the end results of V’s campaign, where all the citizenry donned the Fawkes masks together
Behind this mask is more than a man, Mr. Creedy. Behind this mask is an idea, and ideas cannot be killed.
No, I’m Luigicus!
Wait, wrong movie.
The shooter is immortal with or without Luigi. The shooter showed us they bleed and they’re scared and stumbling now to stay in control.
They have to sit and marinate with their mortality now. It scares them knowing they aren’t that different from us
Luigi may live or die, but the Adjuster remains
And knowing that they are just as expendable to us as we are to them.
This. Especially because it took days to actually find him. Imagine how pants-shittingly-scared the oligarchs would be if one got capped and they couldn’t find the killer?
Imagine how pants-shittingly-scared the oligarchs would be if one got capped and they couldn’t find the killer?
I don’t have to. That’s how scared they are now. Luigi is a cope. He didn’t do that, he’s just there to make the oligarchs feel better like a night light
Who says they have found the killer? All I see is a scapegoat, snatched up by a panicking NYPD
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And that’s why I think that he’s not the one. They scrambled to find whatever evidence and pinpoint to anyone remotely similar to make an example out of him (this comment can be full of conspiracy). My take is they will pin someone, make an example out of him and demotivate future Green Guys.
But the issue is just a social class problem. A CEO is killed, media labels him as a domestic terrorist, a narcissist destroys the whole country (Elmo) and he’s a “hero”, especially if he uses one of his 13 meat shields.
Don’t forget that Elmo is also an autist. You could just as easily and just as truthfully say an evil autist is destroying the country.
I don’t know why you’d want to politicise a mental disorder like that, but since you’re already doing it, you might as well go all the way.
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Psychiatrist never diagnosed him with ASD. Psychiatrist never diagnosed him with NPD. It’s all rumours and stereotypes. He wants the sympathetic stereotype, Lemmy users who think they’re leftists want the unsympathetic stereotype. How about we leave stereotypes out of the conversation to talk about the piece of shit he actually is, instead of which neurodivergencies we think we can use as weapons against him?
Doesn’t NY not support the death penalty?
It’s for the federal charges
